pattygreen

Our 'president' doesn't have any right to get poeple to be busy doing anything in America. That's not his job or call. Welfare recipients should, however, be doing something for their handout, not those recieving nothing or paying into the system.

as for war, when someone threatens to kill you, you need to fight back, not just let them do it. There is nothing good about war, but it is necessary. Do you think if we just remove our troops that it will all end somehow? Some countries just want to take over the world. We can't allow that either.

Mandatory community service could save the towns plenty of money, also. Those getting assistance should be required to pick up trash or work at the shelters and Soup kitchens and if they have skills such as masonry or painting, etc., they should be required to do that for the schools and such.

But the government doesn't give people the choice to murder others. So it shouldn't here as well. I know some of you don't believe that it is murdering a life, but take a look at some new technology and sonograms of babies in the womb and tell me that its not alive. Pro choicers like to say it's not a life because then it makes what they want to be able to do acceptable.

For once, I agree with you. Government is spending, no, wasting, far too much money. But, I thought you just loved the BIG government and all that they do. I am all for putting our tax dollars into military defense and even war, but, I'm against the waste no matter where it is.

When people break the law, there are consequences that go along with it. If the woman chooses to have a back ally abortion and kill her child, then she will reap those consequences. I don't feel any remorse for people who break the law. Also, the no abortion law would be put into affect to save babies from murder. Do you feel sorry for those who break the law and kill others? why should we be concerned about making things 'safer' for murderers?

So what. Isn't she happy doing foster care? If every child got adopted, she'd be out of a job there, now wouldn't she? I did foster care for 20 years, and I know all about children that don't get adopted. This is not a good enough reason to kill them. Nothing you say about the problems associated with unwanted babies will make killing them acceptable.

Well then, I guess it's best to just vacuum them out of the womb. That's your answer? If the white birth mother would have had an abortion if it were legal, she didn't want the baby, therefore she would have put it up for adoption. See, plenty of white babies for those who want a white one. My brothers friend is the product of rape and is thankful for his mom allowing him the opportunity to have his life. This friend is against abortion needless to say.

That's because it is the part that people feel is unfair to them. Defense is a big portion of the spending, but it is needed and most want to pay for security to our country. General costs are expected, but 'giving' our money away to others just because they are poorer than some is unfair. If they don't like their financial situation, they should do something to change it themselves, not depend on the government (which is the people) to keep them content. Those that are mentally incapable and don't have family to help them need help, most do not. Most can get up every morning and work and manage a paycheck and save towards a worthy goal by denying themselves some luxuries in life to get ahead. They usually choose not to, and that's their choice. They should not receive a handout because they chose that lifestyle. I can give you example after example of people that I know personally who receive some form of government assistance who could help themselves instead, but it's there, so why should they? Too many examples. If I can give these examples, I'm sure everyone can. This shows me that the government is enabling people to be dependant upon them. Also, it's not just the welfare to society that is bankrupting us, it's the wasteful spending on projests that each state should raise the funds for themselves. Why should I, in CT have to pay for a park in Oregon, or for Health insurance for all Nebraskans, etc.?

Just what was unrealistic about that scenerio? That a pregnant 18 year old could never find a room for about $100. a week? That she couldn't get a job at K -mart or CVS? That she couldn't get a cert. in a field and better herself financially? That she couldn't pay for child care with a Kmart job? That she couldn't get a pay raise and medical ins. with a better job in her new field? Or do you just want to believe that everyone out there really needs the government to assist them with their handouts? The whole point of that was to show you that people CAN get by if they had to without the government programs. If the programs weren't there, what would they do? Die in the streets? What did people do before the government programs were instated and all this debt was run up that we can't afford? They fended for themselves, they relied on family more, they worked harder, they used their brains and came up with solutions to their dilemmas, they were motivated to better themselves, they were INdependant , and they survived.

Babies are adopted immediately. That's what is most desired by parents who can't have children. Babies. So they can grow up with them and so they can experience everything that other new parents experience right from the birth. If someone doesn't want their baby, they can deliver it and adopt it out right away to a family who does.

I understand that you feel killing a baby is not as high a priority as being able to decide whether you will have to carry it and deliver it, but there are many people who feel that it is just as wrong to kill a baby in the womb as it is to kill one laying in a bed beside its mothers belly. Now, you may be as insensitive as you want with your mocking us, but if you will just once imagine, just imagine for a moment if you felt that way about an abortion how it would put you in a defense mode for these babies. You are soooo into your position on 'choice' that you can't even fathom the oppositions reasoning behind saving a life. It is therefore useless to debate the issue of abortion, because you are blinded to the truth about the baby in the womb as a real, live human being created by God. When you can't see that, you can't see anything.

I forgive you.

Did you mean to say 'anti-abortion' folks?

There are many forms of bc. That dont kill babies. There are many people who would love to adopt babies.

A Messiah is sinless. One who does no wrong. You talk about him in that way. It's like you worship him. (Something people do for the 'Messiah') It's not derogatory in any way. It's exactly how you see him. The word fits your fixation on him as one who could destroy the earth and you would say "he meant to do well, I still love him no matter what he does."

I never told anyone that they are not allowed in church. That bishop didn't either. He said that he wasn't allowed to have communion at the church. I'm not a big fan of the Catholic chrch, but, they have their doctrines, and if you don't want to abide by them, no one forces anyone to attend there. I. too, hate religion.

Since parents make the decisions for their children, they should be the ones to go to prison if the baby gets aborted. Not the child. Is the 9 yr. old's life in danger if she delivers the baby? If yes, then she should be allowed an abortion because everyone has a right to defend their own life.

When you just don't want to believe that there are people in America who could possibly hate the things your Messiah is doing in government, it has to be because he's black. People need to pin things on race. It makes them feel good to accuse others of being racists. Hey, if that's what you think, then so be it.

Oh, I thought it was bcause he was black and they're all racist.:rolleyes2:

And, they don't want control over womens bodies. They want to protect the unborn from the women who are carrying them. It's not like once abortion is made illegal, they are going to control all other issues with womens bodies. get real. It's only about killing of human lives that they want stoppped. You pro choice people are so bent on the "it's her body she can do what she wants with it" thing that you forget that there is another body that's there too.