pattygreen

Show me where I preached "religion" to you in that post?:thumbup:

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I agree with this. When I started posting on LBT, there was a forum for "Women of Color" I suggested, just to see what response I would get, that we start a "White Women Only" thread. I talked with a few black women on that site and they were offended that I would be offended by their thread. Why? Would they be offended if I started a White Women Only thread? Heck yeah! I also think that the BET (black entertainment television) channel is discriminatory. Can you imagine the outcry from the black community if we had a WET (White entertainment television) channel. There was once a Black democratic party association in my community. I called to see if I could join and was told that I could not. I didn't want to join, because I'm not a democrat, but I wanted to talk to the lead organizer and help her to see her discrimination.

I found a list just as long for the democratic party. What's your point? Like I said before, every human sins. thoose who believe in God, and those who dont. This can not be avoided, but if I had to choose , I'd rather sin as a believer than as an unbeliever. There's a great story I told about this before.... There is a vast difference between the believer's sin and the unbeliever's sin. Not that God does not hate both alike, believer's it may be the most because he sins with greater light, but the difference is not in the sin, but in the way God treats it. Here is a father who sends his son and a hired man to do a piece of work. They are lazy and innefficient, and do not do the work. He bears with them, and tries them again, but it is no use. His son and his servant are good for nothing, his son perhaps the worse of the two. Now what does he do? He discharges the servant. He puts him out of the house. He will have nothing more to do with him. But does he discharge his son? Does he send him away from the house? Nothing of the kind. He may rebuke him, cut off his allowance, punish him worse than he punished the servant, but he will not send him away because he is his son. We see then that "sonship" is a real thing. Is sonship then a shield from the punishment of sin? Oh no! It simply gives me the blessed privilege of having an Advocate, and since it is inevitable that I will sin, it is better to sin as a believer than an unbeliever.

Looks to me like the walls could use some scraping and painting. That's it. But leave it to a liberal to want to "replace" the school rather than take the cheapest way out with a little paint.:thumbup:

You liberals love to put yourself up on a higher pedestal than your opponents intelligently. It's too bad that in the eyes of God, you are fools. He says that 'the wisdom of the wise man is foolishness in His eyes'. Those who think they are so smart, reallly don't get it at all. IMO, Liberals have skewed morals.

Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women If this is true, then I am in agreement on this one. all people doing the same exact job should receive equal pay. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB This is a waste of tax payer money. When the body arrives at Dover, it should then be transported to the home town where it would be buried. The families could meet it there at it's arrival. Families are sometimes many people and the expense of airfare, hotel and food for all of them could be spared. I would certainly appreciate this effort if it were my loved one. It would spare me the trip to Dover and all the preparation of traveling during a sorrowful time. Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier's family The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible Limits on lobbyist's access to the White House Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration I thought lobbyists were not going to be allowed there any more. His campaign promise was to END lobbying. Maybe he should put term limits on congressmen instead. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren't even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research This is no accomplishment! Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research New federal funding for science and research labs Yeah, The study about the evolution of squirrel breeding is a prime example. Government waste groups contend that studying the sex habits of African squirrels is exactly the kind of research taxpayers shouldn't be paying for. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools We should continue to SPEND! SPEND! SPEND! even in this bad economy! Roads, power plants, computers. Let's go on a shopping spree!! Yeah!! New funds for school construction What? We can't put up with the buildings we have? How about putting it off till we get ourselves out of debt alittle bit? huh? The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out Why can't we use it? If we don't keep our prisoners there, we'll just have to build another place for them to be kept. Another waste of our money. US Auto industry rescue plan I would have let them go under. Why should my tax dollars have to bail out your business? Housing rescue plan Yeah, let's all pay for you to save your home. I can't even afford my own mortgage payments sometimes, but you were stupid and bought a house you couldn't afford, and now we all have to help you to keep it? $789 billion economic stimulus plan What a waste. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying US financial and banking rescue plan The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with the Geneva Convention standards Better body armor is now being provided to our troops The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010 Let's cut funds that will help us defend our country from the enemy, but increase every other form of spending. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions Global warming is a farce. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office and it accomplished nothing but an expensive jet bill Successful release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job US Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles Can I have one too?, cause I made a compost. Why don't we give everyone who decides to go green a tax incentive? We have money to throw around! Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales Like I said, We have money to spare. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones I suppose we are going to pay for their travel expenses, too. lol Too much. I just don't have the time to respond to all the so called "accomplishments."

Limits on lobbyist's access to the White House Hahahahahahaha!!!!!! I just can't go on! HAHAHAHAHAHA!! OMG!!!! You're kidding, right?

Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible This one is Funny! Very Funny! He's the most secretive pres we've had yet. Who wrote the HC bill? When was it written? Why weren't we told there would be a take over of all student loans by the government included in it before it was passed? What ever happened to MSNBC reporting all the happenings at the WH? I could go on and on, but you get it. Transparency? lol

Still going through Cleo's list of Obama's accomplishments. 2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices Why not just DO it! Cut the wasteful spending and practices. Why waste time reviewing them? They know what they are full well. This is such a joke. He goes out and doubles the National debt in his first year alone with all his wasteful spending and then he wants to "review" all their operations in order to cut waste. Why didn't he just do that on day one of his term, instead of going on his spending spree?!!!!

You've noticed that, too?

{quote} Patty, your politics and your religion are at odds with each other. Do you think Jesus was a liberal or a conservative? Didn't he throw the money changers out of the temple? Didn't he comfort the poor and the sick? Didn't he preach love and tolerance? Jesus would have definitely been a right winger. Here is one example. Liberals, who appear to be soft hearted when they are reallly soft headed, dig into the pockets of the productive to provide for the parasites. Jesus said that the poor would always be with us, but he did not say that the workers should provide for the shirkers. The liberal embraces the poor, plants a kiss on his cheek and puts food stamps in his hand saying, "I am your friend." (Translated: Vote Liberal) By providing endless benefits, rather than forcing the poor to work, the Liberal is relegating the poor to generations of beggary. That is not friendship; it's folly. Welfare is a mish mash of of government programs that take from the "haves" and give to the "have nots". This theivery is justified because we "owe it to the people". It is their 'right.' so they tell us. If a man has a 'right' to what I produce, then I am his slave. Welfare is a plot to redistribute the wealth and just because it is lawful doesn't make it jsut. Liberals don't understand that the more dependent men become, the less dependable they are. The Liberal do gooder is the worst enemy of the poor. Most liberals gravitate to federal give aways like a pig to slop. He embraces the poor, and as he regulates him to a life time of dependence-living off the sweat of others. Liberal politicians never create wealth to provide for the poor. He redistributes the golden eggs, but he can not lay them. But, they have effectively killed the goose that produced the golden eggs- free enterprise. Booker T Washington said "In bestowing charity, the main consideration should be to help those who will help themselves." The apostle Paul told the Thessalonians, "if any would not work, neither should he eat." If a man doesn't eat, it wont be long before he will start to work. So, God expects us to work, not live off others, but work is a dirty word to the parasites. Ephesians 4:28 reminds us "Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labor..." Ah another dirty word!

If you ever wondered what side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test! Lot of truth here! If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one. If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed. If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.. If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone. If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect. If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him. If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down. If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church. A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

Your fears are invalid.

And you think your liberal friends are any different? In politics, all we have to choose from is the lesser of two evils. This is why I choose the conservatives, whether he lives up to his moral convictions or not, because it is the better choice. Conservative nominees are more likely to vote in my preference because they claim to believe as I do. Whether they do or not is between them and God.

God wants us to be obedient to those in authority over us, dispite their wrong doings. It is the government who is doing the stealing, not the people they collect taxes from.

#1 Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending Let's spend some money and hire some more people to "STUDY" about how to cut spending. Why not just DO IT for crying out loud. Wouldn't that be wiser. Sorry, no accomplishment in my opinion. Good night. I'll go thru your stupid list tomorrow.

Nope. You most definitely don't get anything spiritual. You are as blind as a bat when it comes to spirituality. You should listen to Carrie Underwoods song entitled "This is my temporary Home". She gets it.

And we had no electricity, indoor plumbing or telephones and people lived miles apart from each other and worked at home on their farms. It was difficult to travel and get kids to a school. But the rich did. So, we progressed and moved on. What's your point? My point is that my paying for someone elses kid to get a public education is not what makes our society civil. We would still be a civil society if we each paid for our own kids to go to school. And it would be fair to those who chose not to have children.

The right to life..liberty..and the pursuit of happiness. You cannot have life if you don't have health insurance to pay for healthcare and you have conditions which threaten the quality (happiness) or quantity of your life. You are mistaken. That quote is not found in the Constitution. It is found in our declaration of independence. You should read it.

You've said many times on different threads that it's the government stealing. It is! That hasn't changed. Just because God wants us to be obedient to those in authority over us and pay taxes, doesn't mean the taxes are just or fair.

UNBELIEVABLE! This is what Congressman Alan Grayson said is the republican plan for healthcare: (1) Don't get sick and (2) And if you do, die quickly. And here we see in proudly presented. Don't worry if you die from lack of healthcare, you life on earth is pretty much meaningless. Did I say meaningless? No! That's just Cleo's puttin words in my mouth. I said that eternity is what matters, not this life. Some how I knew you wouldn't get it. I should have known better, you just don't have the Spiritual awareness to understand it.

Know what I think? I think you're Airiscus. I think you are playing games and whenever I'm posting, you keep your Airiscus dual personality off the post. I think you are really that person as well. How clever of you.

You need to go back and read my comments to what I wrote. I didn't ask God to put them out of business or to do anything to them, especially not a "favor", except to show them their own wrong doing and help them to see it. They went out of business because they reap what they sow. Not just in my case. I'm sure if they treted me, as their customer unfairly, that they did the same to most of their customers, and when you treat people that way, it eventually effects you. Your Pastor was right in saying that God doesn't do anything bad to people. But he does allow people to experience the consequences, whether good or bad, to their actions. And, yes, he has a plan for everyone.