pattygreen

First of all, let me say thankyou for serving in the military. I appreciate all that you have done. Without you and others like you, we wouldn't have any of the freedoms we have right now. I agree with you about being sick of religions. I believe God also is unhappy with organized religion where man makes up doctrines to suit their own desires. I believe that a 'relationship' with God should replace all 'religion' about God. I don't agree with you about each of us making our ownselves great, though. God is Great, and any greatness we may have comes from Him I believe.

There can only be one God. Yes? Only one God created all things, right? So someones Got to have it right.

I don't drink, but my husband's family all used to. His dad was a horrible alcoholic and drove drunk all the time. He's 74 now, but drank from age thirteen to 64. What a waste of a good life, cause he's the best man, now that he's sober. His 4 brothers drank often and some still do. My husband used to drink and he considered himself to be an alcoholic. Then when he became a born again christian, he stopped and never drank again. I have always believed that if alcoholism is in your family, than your more suceptible to becoming alcoholic if you start drinking socially. There must be a gene that allows alcohol to grab hold of you and be addictive, for some who don't have alcoholism in their family history drink alot and then can go for months without it no problem. I've used this scare tactic to keep my teens from touching the stuff, and it works. Yet, I don't believe it's untrue. Most people who are alcoholic have parents or grandparents who were. This is the case with my husbands family. What's your take on this? As far as driving goes, there is NO excuse to get behind a wheel drunk that is acceptable. None! (I'm just grateful that his dad never hurt anyone or himself while driving drunk.)

Sorry I voted for him? No. Cause I DIDN'T vote for him!! Thankfully I can say that I voted against all of His Obominal spending sprees! And we thought Bush spent way too much of our money that we don't have. WOW!!! That's all I can say. WOW!!! Let's take 480 years and spend 1 million dollars a day, every day, and you still won't reach what he blew! It makes me sick!

He should be running the country, not playing on Leno. He's put us and our kids, kids, kids in great unfathomable debt with the strokes of his pen and I don't feel he is very wise to place himself on a comedy show when he knows full well that every eye is scrutinizing his every move and every word. How foolish. And before anyone tells me how much Bush spent before him, I'd like to say that at least it was spent to protect us from terrorists rather than the odor pigs give off. And Obama has spent, in his first few months in office, more than EVERY president since George Washington put together. It's sickening! (and what's he doing making fun of the special olympics anyway?) He played it off like he was joking around, but when someone speaks like that without thinking, (and especially coming from the president),it shows how he really feels about the mentally handicapped. He seems to me to be a very prideful man. Too self confident. And we all know what comes after pride. The fall.

Setting aside the fact that we now have a black president, b/c I for one am glad that our country has overcome the race issue on this level, are you still glad that you voted for Obama? I didn't vote for him. Nothing to do with his skin color, though. Prior to the election, I could understand why giving him your vote would play a big part in history, and I knew that people would vote for him for that reason, but I had hoped that McCain was a black man, cause then we could have had a win, win. Obama's first priority in office was to make darn sure that if you wanted to, you could get an abortion at any time and for any reason. (that speaks volumes to me about his priorities. LIFE means nothing to Him) He broke his campaign promise about ending the war immediately. Now he says within 1 1/2 years. But maybe longer. What about his questionable appointees? BUT THE BIG KICKER WAS THAT RIDICULOUS STIMULUS PLAN!!!!!! If you spend 1 MILLION Dollars a day(A DAY!) for the next 485 years, you would finally finish spending all the money he plans to BLOW! OUTRAGEOUS!!!! Which of you when you are financially in trouble in your household decides to get out the credit cards and go on a spending spree? Would that solve your financial problems, or bring you deeper into the hole??!! Why can't America and Obama see that? He also promised to go LINE for LINE thru the stimulus package and remove ALL pork spending, But there are 9000 Pet Projects in there that have NOTHING to do with stimulating the economy whatsoever! He promised that lobbyists and special interest groups would have NO place in His administration if He were elected. What a LIAR! Now he tells us that within 4 years he will have the National Debt cut in half!!! Ha! Ha! Ha! What a JOKE!!! The most intelligent financial advisors, and not just one, but many, many of them say He is dreaming!! It JUST isn't possible. With the amount of money he is spending in his first 2 months of presidency, we will NEVER be able to repay it. He is putting our children, grandchildren and great, great grandchildren in financial ruin. He has kept the Nation in controversial division rather than uniting us. I know it is difficult now for those who voted for him to admit he is doing everything wrong and he is outrageously spending our tax dollars to the tune of TRILLIONS, because everyone has such high hopes for him or someone like him to 'FIX' things, BUT can you honestly say you're proud of his decisions so far?:wink::eek::thumbup:

All she needs to do is close the curtains. Circus all gone.

sil, how ya doing post op? Congratulations on your band. We are neighbors. I live in Naugatuck. Good luck with your weight loss progress.

Do you mind my asking, why you are looking into another surgery when you already had a bypass? Didn't it help you? thanks.

Gallop polls show his approval rating going down from 68 to 58% and his disapproval ratings, from those who posted undecided, going up dramatically.

This story is heartbreaking. I feel so badly for her and the kids. How will they ever be able to live a normal life? They wont. Putting him in prison for the rest of his life isn't punishment enough, cause how long does he have to live when he's in his 70s already? What about his wife? You can't tell me she didn't know there was a dungeon downstairs? All this time she never was curious about what was in it or where her daughter disappeared to? Or maybe that wasn't her daughter. Either way, she's just as guilty. What about this womans mom? If his wife wasn't her mom, then where was her mom when her daughter disappeared at age 18? How sad for the kids. They will need alot of prayer and counseling. This man is mentally deranged. Sick!

My posting here says it all!!!

My questioning the RN thing is because their fees can be $40./hr. as compared to a HHA @ $8-10./hr. Don't get on me about HHAs being trained to care for premies. Their mother was told what to do to care for them, and so can a HHA. And besides, HEALTHY premies don't need nurses at home.

The first 2 were sent home as healthy babies, the report states. So I wonder why the need of two nurses. When my premie grandson came home from the hosp., he came home as a healthy baby also, and was not in need of an RN. I saw the video of the homecoming, and those 2 babies looked great. Most premies who come home from the hospital don't need RNs to care for them at home. If they did, they would usually stay in the hospital until they are not in need of a nurses care, or they would have a visiting nurse come occasionally. I think that if there wasn't so much drama over them, they wouldn't even be there with her.

kat, Let me make something clear to you. I do NOT try to relate myself to her. I am nothing like her at all. Except that I , too, have a large family. I am not a self centered person nor would I ever consider having any children without being married or without them having a father in their lives, or the means to support them. So, to me, what's 'sad' is that you would believe I think I want to be like her. I can understand her, though. Maybe after she put her embryos in a dish and she contemplated that they would be destroyed if not used, she decided to use them rather than destroy them. That would put her in a tough spot spiritually. For to destroy the embryos would mean murder to her (as it does to me also). So, if she chose to implant them all for that reason, then I support that. She is trusting God to take care of them because she did the right thing (in Gods eyes) by not killing them. For some who wouldn't believe that way, it would be hard for them to comprehend not choosing a form of abortion over life, no matter how difficult it might be to have the babies, but that's the way most prolifers feel. ( Christians believe that God places a soul into every fertilized egg at the second of conception.)She attends a christian church and says she believes in God.

Where do you get this from? I have never felt that I am the only one who is allowed to have an opinion and I have never claimed to be perfect either. Don't presume to know what I think about myself.

babygrl, you post here just as much as I do. Don't you have anything else to do? What have I ever done to you? It is obvious that some don't like me because I am a christian and am not ashamed to speak about God when I post, but that was uncalled for.

None of you, (except beth maybe) have no problem with your new president taking your money to fund all kinds of ridiculous things in this country. You aren't outraged with a president who will spend us and borrow us into a humongous inferno debt, and our great, great grandchildren as well, but to give her family of 6 some food stamps was tooooo much for you. Unbelievable! No one seems to care that we will all have to work to pay for the healthcare of everyone else who won't, but to begrudge her some government foodstamps is ok. Her collecting federal funds to pay for the babies medical care is just what Obama wants to do in the near future. (have all of us pay for those who can't) So she's accepting medical care from tax payer money before Obama's plan is even here. Big deal. If we can give millions to study pigs, we can give them to her 8. She wasn't like those who have baby after baby with no plan to support them. Her plan was to have 7 kids and have a degree from college in 1 year, then to support them herself. That was her plan. Her plan got messed up when she ended up having 8 babies instead of 1 more. You've never heard of the term 'mercy'? How about 'forgiveness'? She admitted that she messed up when she saw that instead of 1 more baby she was having 8 more. There is nothing wrong with a woman wanting 7 children and having a plan to support them that she is working on. I personally would have waited until I was done with college and had a good job before I got pregnant again. Not everyone does the right thing all the time in life.

I didn't call anyone a fool. GOD said that. Not me. So, your problem will be with him. ------------------------------------------------ It would be almost impossible for me to speak on why I believe abortion is wrong if I can't bring my beliefs in God into the subject, for it is because he says that it is a sin that I have my belief in the first place. Therefore, since you don't want to be "preached to" as you say I am doing, I will end this thread with you once again, for I don't appreciate being made fun of anymore than you think I am offending you. I certainly didn't have any ill intentions to offend anyone here. sorry.bye.

If my posts are so unwelcomed, then why do you respond to them?

Everyone forgets that she didn't plan to have 8 babies, she planned to have 1 more (7, not 14). And even though I don't feel that planning to have 7 children is a big deal, I understand why most do, since they seem to find it difficult to have just 2 or 3 kids. I believe the anger comes in when she didn't have a means of support except the help of her mom and the food stamps. BUT, she was planning to finish school and after another year of her mom's help, she would have been fine with 7(so she thought) kids to support. I saw her on Dr. Phil yesterday, and she was sincerely sorry for everyones anger at her. She doesn't want anyone to be mad at her. If she could do it without the support of Angels, she would. There were people in the audience who wished her well. Honestly, sometimes I feel you people just like to harp on about her for the sake of harping. Someone here said they would have taken foodstamps and WIC if they were eligible for it, so it's not they you wouldn't accept help from the gov., but that you couldn't get the help that you are upset about. I believe she will be a loving mom to her kids and be fine.

You can not legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person recieves without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government can not give to anybody anything the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else gets what they work for, that, my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You can not multiply wealth by dividing it. quote from The Rev. Adrian Rogers, former president, Southern Baptist Convention

You are mistaken about me if you think that I feel I am a 'saint', or above anyone else here, Cause I do not feel that way. I am not a perfect peson and I know my own faults better than anyone. I am thankful to Jesus who took the punishment for my many wrongs in this life, for if He didn't, I would be lost eternally, because I sin every day.

In this mornings service, Our pastor spoke briefly about the proverb that says "The fool says in his heart there is no God." Now, before you jump all over me because you feel I am calling you names, let me just say that the God who created you calls you foolish if you say he doesn't exist. Not me. rodriguezequal, most christian churches preach on different subjects than others, but what I was talking about is they all believe in Jesus as the way to get to heaven.They believe he is God. If they preach that they are the only true church of God, then they are mistaken, for there will be many people from many 'christian' churches, and even some who never entered a church, who will make it to heaven. Just remember, the 'church' of God is the individual people who believe in him, NOT the building and their doctrine. There will always be christian churches who get things wrong, cause man is not perfect, and makes mistakes, but the important issue to get right is that Jesus is the Savior who died for us so we could go to heaven. If you believe this, then it doesn't matter what christian church you attend. God only wants us to know how to get from here to there. If we make mistakes in choosing a church to attend, he will show us while we're there. You don't even need to go to a church if you don't want to. Christianity is personal relationship with Jesus. You can have that in your living room or anywhere.