*susan*

I hate the player. I am disgusted by him. Some may have been willing participants of his shenanigans, but not all are. You don't randomly go into a patients room and start discussing your genitals for no reason. If you are a professional, you never have a relationship other than one of a professional nature with your patients. It is unethical to do that, it is unethical to accept gifts. There is no excuse for it. And, I'm sorry. I must add this. Why, in this day and age with all the diseases out there would any intelligent person want to involve themselves in a casual sex relationship with someone who will sleep with any woman willing to spread her legs for him? Goodness, my health and self-respect are much more valuable to me than that.

Speaking of recently created profiles, hello pot, meet kettle!

See my answers in red... You are being ridiculous and trying to take the attention off of the real issues here. Stop wasting my time and our member’s time with your ridiculous tactics. Again, you are being ridiculous. Everyone on this site knows that I know Alex, THE founder of this website, not one of. Then again, everyone else knows him as well. And, once again, your reading and comprehension skills are truly lacking for someone who claims to be a teacher. Of course it is not predatory. I have been a volunteer member of the staff here for years. I worked for Alex for one year as a coordinator until I resigned because, as stated before, I received a promotion at my day job and was no longer able to continue to do both. Next, Alex is not a doctor, so your “Could such a relationship be considered predatory since you are a patient, as well?” statement just screams of ignorance on your part. Perhaps you ought to use your law enforcement skills a little better so you actually know what you are talking about. I have never worked for a doctor. Sorry. There are those great reading, comprehension and law enforcement skills of yours again. I already answered this. Practice your reading skills and find the answer. Again, check your reading and comprehension skills. I have already covered this. Some knew me from here, some I had referred to Dr. Illan, some were referred to me by other victims or other people who know me from here and outside of here and know that I am standing up for their rights. By the way, it is now eight. You seem to have a very difficult time understanding my connection with the bariatric community and the fact that I know a lot of people as a result. I didn’t say they were all long time users. I said I have been a member here for years and many people here know me. And shockingly, I also have a life outside of here. This is not the only place where people know me from. Some people have joined because we requested they do so in order to share what has happened to them in the hopes that others do not experience the same thing. Others are long-term members who have created an alternate ID due to such wonderful people as you who like to bully victims. Now, I am not and will not waste any more of my time answering the same questions over and over again simply because you have poor reading and comprehension skills and apparently suffer from some type of memory loss. Instead of having Omar feed you information, I again challenge you to see if he has the cajones to man up and speak for himself. I am done with you. I have no time for enablers, and that is what you and the Omar worshippers are. You are all so in love with him, so hypnotized by him, that you continue to defend him knowing he is a criminal, knowing if he enters the US he will be arrested, and knowing he victimizes woman. By your insistence on defending him, you are enabling him to continue to take advantage of his patients. I’ll be honest, I couldn’t really give two hoots about his sob story about his past. He made his decisions, he needs to take responsibility for them and accept the consequences instead of running to another country like a coward. What I do care about is that in no way, shape or form is it acceptable for any employee of a physician to take advantage of his patients and seek romantic/sexual relationships with them. Whether the patient is supposedly willing or not, it is his responsibility to not allow this to happen. He is unprofessional, unethical and has no morals, none! As I said, he is a pig and he disgusts me. I will defend these women in any way I know how.

ChelceyA, very good observations/points'

Thank you. And, I was just contacted by yet another victim. I am scared to think how many more there are we don't know about.

There is so much I want to say, but ya know how you have those days where nothing has gone right and you're this close to just blowing up? Yes, I'm there. And if it happens here, it won't be pretty. I am so tired of the fan club defending a man who gets his rocks off on preying on vulnerable, innocent victims just because they weren't unfortunate enough to have it happen to them. This man is about as low as they come. If you all could see the new information that has been shared with me today, you would just vomit. He is disgusting. A pig. Mankind in its worse form. I can only hope what I have learned today can be shared with all of you soon. He is actually proud of himself and bragging about what he has done and gets away. Of course, the Omar Worshippers will continue to deny it. They will continue to try and discredit and bully the victims. They will continue to try to convince you I made this all up. Go for it. Because in the end, I have the proof, I know the victims and we are doing what we need to do both publicly and privately to have this situation death with.

Oh goodness, please be careful!

What I have learned from all this is you have yet to contribute anything relevant to this thread.

Because the fanclub feels that if they can discredit me, that will put doubts in people's minds. However, most people on here have known me for years, know my associations with others in the bariatric community and why these woman felt comfortable coming to me. In addition, if they can make this thread all about me, instead of Omar's inappropriate use of his position to manipulate and take advantage of woman, then perhaps people will forget the whole reason this topic was started to begin with.

Once again, for a teacher, those reading and retention skills aren't to sharp, are they? I never told anyone Dr. Kelly or any other doctor killed anyone in the OR. I have no knowledge of that happening.

For a public school teacher, you would think you would have better reading and retention skills. You did not miss my response, bless your heart, I chose not to respond to you because you are now grasping at straws and inventing stories. The only somewhat truth is that yes, because, as I have stated previously, I do feel Dr. Illan is a good surgeon, I was considering him for my revision and had a very brief discussion with Omar about it, but later dismissed that thought because I prefer to stay in the US for my surgery. I never pursued it any further. This all took place several weeks prior to six of the seven woman coming forward to me. I did not and would not have considered it afterwards. I am curious, as myself and Bill are the only ones who knew about this, and clearly Bill hasn't spoken to you, why instead of trying to feed blown out of proportion information and lies to you to ask me, why doesn't Omar man up himself and confront me with his questions directly? I am perfectly willing to speak with him, if he has the cajones to do so. But, as he knows he is in the wrong, I don't suspect he does.

Well, I don't appreciate the digs at myself and the victims in this thread either. Now, lets talk about my credibility. I have been a member of this forum almost since its beginning. I know a lot of people as a result, have made a lot of friends here, and as I was administrator for years, people felt comfortable confiding in me. I don't hide behind a screen name or a fake picture. My screen name is my real name and the picture is me. My facebook information is in my signature. I worked for Alex directly for over a year as a coordinator. In doing so, I gained even more contacts in Mexico and the US. I resigned in January after getting a major promotion at my "day" job, but continued to maintain those contacts. Nothing made up there. Fact. I had surgery in Mexico. I had many issues for several years following that I did not attribute to having anything to do with my sleeve. When I went to a doctor about my issues, after a multitude of tests, yes, it was determined my problems were a result of my sleeve not being perfomed properly. Then, after posting about it on facebook, another of my friends who went to the same surgeon advised me she had recently gone to her doctor for the exact same thing, and was told the same thing I was. Nothing made up there, Fact. In my process of being a coordinator, I referred a patient to a surgeon in Mexico. While there she died. I'm not going to go into great details, but the surgeon said it was due to undisclosed medical issues. Again, after remaining in close contact with this person's husband and others, it was determined she had no undisclosed medical conditions. There was a lawsuit in process, I had been contacted regarding it, I had seen medical records. Nothing made up there. Fact. I became close friends with another coordinator for a different surgeon in Mexico. When she quit working for him and I inquired as to why, she shared with me that he had told her he sleeved her, but in truth did not, his own coordinator. She also had the medical records to show it. When she confronted him, he admitted it. She shared part of that information of the confrontation with me. Nothing made up there. Fact. And then, there is this issue with Omar. I have stated from the start, Dr. Illan is a good surgeon. Omar is the problem. When one person came to me, I questioned the validity. However, after seven have come forward, I can no longer question it. There is inappopriate and unethical behavior going on on Omar's part. Nothing made up there. Fact. Now, who are you that you are able to discredit me? What is your real name? Where is your picture? What is your background?

Agreed!

Whitney clearly haves some pretty deep ceded psychological issues. I am sorry she is doing this to you Alex. Do you think it is possible that she is Omar's current lady of the week and that is why she is defensive of him? I really can't see any other reason for her behavior. And what grounds would she have to press charges, this thread is not even about her. Is she somehow connected to Dr. Illan and Omar in a way we are not aware of. I believe it is time for me to put on my "investigative hat".

I am sorry you feel this way. As you were told previously, no one is forcing you to continue to click on this thread and read it. But, to help me understand, if it isn't all bunnies and unicorns, you don't think it should be posted on Bariatric Pal? You believe that because you don't like being exposed to ugliness that takes place in this world, the post should be closed down? Bariatric Pal is a wonderful support site. There are literally thousands of posts for you to read, and you can create your own. However, it is also a place where people come to seek information. What should I eat, what doctor should I go to, am I safe traveling to Mexico? These questions deserved to be answered as well, if unethical conduct is occurring, people have a right to know. And, as in any situation, there will be two sides to every story, and opinions will be discussed and debated. Alex chooses to allow this post to continue because it is extremely important information and people need to know. He continues to leave it open because there are at least two more of the now seven victims who are trying to work up the nerve to face the "firing squad" and share what happened with them. They have a right to be heard, people have a right to hear it. Sorry if we offend you, at a message board where there are literally thousands of members, it is going to be impossible to please everyone. We do the best we can, but we also accept there will be times we are unable to.

They have all posted their information in other places as well.

I have nothing to hide. My Facebook information is in my signature. My email and phone number information are listed on my facebook. Before you make assumptions about who I am or what my motives are, which are purely to make sure no other woman are taken advantage of, learn who I am first. You are welcome to contact me anytime. Now, I am going to share something. I am passionate about helping these woman. One is because I have and continue to be passionate about weight loss surgery, its benefits and helping others achieve their goals. Two, I strongly believe in doing what is right, and speaking out when I know someone is doing wrong, or has been done wrong. To see these woman bullied the way they have been breaks my heart. To hear everyone state they are responsible or asked for it just kills me. Only three people in the world know what I am about to share, but I guess that is about to change. Five years ago I went through a divorce. I was newly divorced, thin for the first time since my teens and there was a whole new world out there for me. However, I was very naive about a lot of things. I was very vulnerable and not very strong emotionally. I was the former fat girl and loved feeling sexy and loved it when men noticed me. I was on a website and a man began being very friendly towards me. He was a professional body builder, I couldn't believe it, a professional body builder showing interest in my fat self. Because you see, when I looked in the mirror, I still saw the fat girl. He was suave, handsome, and well, a body builder, you can imagine. It was a local website and he asked me one Sunday if I wanted to come to his apartment to watch the race with him. Now, at 40+ years of age, any person in a normal state of mind would have thought, hey, this is the first time you are meeting this guy, perhaps you should be wise and keep it to a public place until you know him better. But, as I said, newly divorced, vulnerable, low self-esteem and this body builder was interested in me! So, I headed on over to his house. I wasn't there five minutes before he was all over me. I realized in a hurry this was not what I was prepared for and told him this was going someplace I wasn't ready to go and was going to leave. At that point, he literally carried me into his bedroom and proceeded to have his way with me. I tried to fight him off, but, again, he was a body builder and I was me, the more I fought, the more it hurt, so I stopped fighting. When he was done, he threw my clothes at me, called me a effing whore and that he was going to take a shower and I had better be gone by the time he got out. I ran out of there. I was afraid to tell anyone what happened because he was fairly well known in the area and I didn't think anyone would believe me. Like many of these woman, I went through an emotional hell. I thought it was my fault, I am a grown woman, I got what I deserved because I put myself in that position. But later, I learned someone did report him. He is now living in a nice little jail cell. Turns out, he also preyed upon woman. He realized newly divorced woman were vulnerable, many were desperate to feel loved or needed, and they fell for him. He knew all the right things to say to get these woman, including myself, to come to his apartment. And everyone of the woman had the same story, whether he took them by force, or they willingly submitted, once the act was over, he demanded they leave and never heard from him again. It was not any of our faults. Just because we made an unwise decision during a time of emotional turmoil and vulnerability in our lives did not mean we deserved what this man did to us. You know what, the same goes for Omar's victims. If Omar approached them in an inappropriate manner and they refused and nothing physical happened, it was wrong of him, he took advantage of his position and it was unethical. If they fell for him, did have a "romantic' relationship with him, or whatever it should be called, he still took advantage of them when they were vulnerable, alone and afraid, and again, it was him taking advantage of his position and it was unethical. This is why I fight for these woman, this is why I fight for what is right. There is no black and white. There is only right or wrong. And it is wrong of him to satisfy his physical and emotional needs with patients who put their trust in him. He is a man, it is perfectly normal for him to seek the "company" of a woman, however, it should be someone he meets outside of his business.

I have just been contacted by yet another victim. Clearly, this man is taking advantage of his position. He is so unprofessional and of low moral character and no ethics. I am just speechless.

Actually, I believe another of the woman will be sharing what happened with her. I have given her fair warning that she will most likely be vehemently attacked and bullied, but she is quite tough and I believe she can handle it.

Thank you!!

Thank you!!

DO NOT turn this thread into a religious debate, please. If you wish to discuss religion, please start your own topic so as not to detract from this one. Thank you.

Uh, two of the people have posted here. Others are afraid to because of the bullying taking place. And, sorry, I only just now have gotten around to having hidden cameras placed in all the hospital and hotel rooms.

Absolutely, I have issues with someone who is supposed to be a professional satisfying his personal needs by preying on his patients.

Oh look, another new person joined just to discredit me and our victims. Thank you. Just because I have X-rays showing where my surgeon botched my surgery and posted about it means I am nothing more than a raving lunatic and therefore, anything else I post is clearly garbage. And, of course, I am sure that none of the six violated woman, (that we know of, I am sure there are more) were interested in improving their health, losing weight or finding a competent doctor. Of course, you must be correct, they were looking for a good time! Well, that explains it. Thank you so much for joining just to add your valuable information to this topic, posting, clarifying what really happened and clearing all this up.