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Thanks for the info, the sizes sound the same be cause I AM the starting out you! Same height and weight and I am wearing an 18 or 16 so I think its about the same. I went on the web to see what that body lift was and saw some impressive pix! Also I think most of my weight is around the middle as yours seemed to be so I am hoping to get to where you are now...cant wait to take those jeans pix!!! PS: I'm in central California, US! Its so great that we can talk to people everywhere...the issues are universal!!! Cali