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hi Mrs SugarBabe and ShelterDog64 I don't generally comment on competitive products but we believe that the GENEPRO marketing is potentially misleading. This is what was said on the message board used by bariatric dietitians back in the fall (things might have changed since then): one RD said: ----------------- "....I never heard of this product, but I am highly skeptical. When I first looked at their website I couldn't wrap my head around a 15g serving having 30g of Protein without defying the laws of physics. ..." and this is what one of the RDs here at UNJURY® Protein posted back then: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "...Using information available on the Musclegen Research website (shopmusclegen.com/protein?product_id=172), reviewed today, September 1, 2016, my calculations reveal that the nutrition label of this product may be misleading. One container of GenePro is 11.8 ounces, or 334 grams. There are 30 servings per container, and the label indicates that one serving provides 30 grams of protein. Therefore, 1 container should provide 900 grams of protein. You may check my calculations to ensure they are correct using the link provided. If your calculations are equivalent to mine, do you believe it’s possible for 334 grams of powder to contain 900 grams of protein?..." If you have more questions about this, you can call the UNJURY® Protein toll free number and ask for Jerome. I hope this is helpful. Jerome at UNJURY® Protein

There seem to be a number of questions about clear liquid diets, so I thought some perspective from our dietitians would be helpful. 1. Clear liquid diets (let's use CLD for short) provide hydration (that is, Water, to keep you from de-hydration), along with some energy and perhaps minerals. 2. Most CLDs are nutrient deficient, and Protein deficient. 3. Because of this, using a CLD for very long will usually result in muscle wasting. There is no single definition of what is a clear liquid diet. Some protein supplements are generally not considered allowed on a CLD, some are. For example, our chocolate and vanilla would not be allowed, but our strawberry Sorbet, chicken Soup, and Unflavored are allowed. In contrast, full liquid diets can meet all of your nutrition needs if well designed. Hope this is helpful. Kind regards Jerome unjury ® Protein

Hi Sadie I am sorry unjury did not agree with you. Please know that you can get a full refund from us. That is never a problem. Just email service@unjury.com for details, or call our toll free number 1 800 517 5111 Mon thru Fri 9 to 6 Eastern time. You can also call and talk to our dietitians...you might find that there is some way to use the product that works for you. While we generally get great comments on taste and tolerability, we understand that everyone is different. Does that help? Kind regards Jerome UNJURY ® Protein

---------------------------------- I am sorry for the wait! When did you order? KY is usually 2 to 3 days (not counting Sat/Sun) so if you ordered on, say, Wed., it should arrive today, Monday. If you don't have it call us on our toll free number between 9 and 6 Eastern and we will reship, OK? Kind regards Jerome UNJURY ® Protein

If it is a Protein, it is made up of amino acids. But some products try to make it sound like that is a unique feature. What is really important is the MIX of amino acids. Your body needs them in a specific proportion. Jerome unjury ® Protein

The typical difference between a Protein supplement and a meal replacement is that the meal replacement includes Vitamins and minerals. So if you already use a good Vitamin and mineral supplement, you don't need the meal replacement, and in fact it could be harmful for this reason: More and more research is showing that too much of some vitamins is bad. So a protein supplement, particularly those which don't include vitamins, give you more control over your vitamin intake, and they don't charge you for vitamins you don't need or want. Jerome unjury ® Protein

One more item... This is from a press release from the National Institutes of Health. Moderate-Protein diet may beat high-carb diet MedlinePlus: Moderate-protein diet may beat high-carb diet It suggests protein in the range of 30% of calories, so for example: Diet: Grams of Protein: ---- ----------------- 1000 87 2000 174 It also emphasizes: "A higher protein diet is not (just) more protein at dinner, but balanced protein at breakfast and lunch." SOURCE: Journal of Nutrition, March 2009. Kind regards Jerome unjury ® Protein

First, so you know from the beginning. We sell Protein, but that doesn't mean we are not highly ethical. I am responding to the observation that (roughly) the recommenders of protein are all vendors, while all the academics recommend balanced diets. We agree that skepticism, even cynicism, is well founded. But the DIET vendors (e.g. Atkins, South Beach) aren't simply selling protein, however; they are selling their branded diets. Protein itself, does not have a good "commercial" supporter because protein is not a proprietary brand. Merck, for example, is the only company that can sell the brand Vioxx, but anyone can sell protein. So they can price it high and make great margins with no competitors. This is not true of "protein". As a result, we think protein is UNDER-researched. There is no research that says you need to limit your protein within a normal range, unless you have severe kidney disease already -- that is, your kidneys are about to fail. You can read about tolerable protein intake from the National Academy of Sciences, the leading science/academic authority in the US by far: Dietary Reference Intakes for Energy, Carbohydrate, Fiber, Fat, Fatty Acids, Cholesterol, Protein, and Amino Acids (Macronutrients) They are the people who set the Recommended Dietary Intakes for Vitamins, minerals, protein and more. And there IS good academic research supporting the idea that getting 25% to 30% of your calories from protein (in contrast to about 15%) better supports weight loss. Here are 3 references: Weigle, DS, Breen, PA, Mattys, CC, et al. A high-protein diet induces sustained reductions in appetite, ad libitum caloric intake, and body weight despite compensatory changes in diurnal plasma leptin and ghrelin concentrations. Am J Clin Nutr 2005;82:41-8. Liedy, HJ, Carnell, NS, Mattes, RD. Higher protein intake preserves lean mass and satiety with weight loss in pre-obese and obese women, Obesity 2007 15(2) 421-9. Paddon-Jones, D, Westman, E, Mattes, R. Protein, weight management and satiety. AJCN 2008 87 (suppl) 1558S-61S. I hope that is helpful. I will try to respond to follow-up questions if there are any. Kind regards Jerome unjury ® Protein

I would suggest that you ask the dietitian at your surgeon's office what the PDCAAS score of these two products are. PDCAAS is the accepted measure of Protein quality -- the value of the protein to your body. The highest score, for products such as Whey Protein Isolate, is 100. In effect, you can use the PDCAAS score to translate the protein grams to the equivalent of complete protein. So for example, if the New-Whey PDCAAS score is 35, at it has 42 grams of protein, that would translate to 14 or 15 grams of complete protein. Kind regards Jerome unjury ® Protein

"...I don't feel that your snooping and soliciting on weight loss SUPPORT forums is necessary, respectful or wanted. You are entitled to your own opinion and you should exercise that opinion in Drs. offices and Vitamin shops. Please leave us to consult with our doctors, surgeons and other MEDICAL professionals. Thank you." Wow...that is a pretty strong reaction. I have to wonder why. Generally, when we offer honest valuable nutrition facts that help members understand the difference among supplements, the reaction is appreciation, even when the readers are not our customers. I am sure on the boards, the readers remember that some posters do NOT state their business reasons for posting. That is quite common. I don't know if that is the case here or not. But we do clearly let people know who we are. No unidentified agents. I hope some readers appreciate that. To those who post on behalf of competitors, this is your big chance to pretend you are indignant. Kind regards Jerome unjury ® Protein

On another board, there seems to be good awareness that most collagen-based products (this includes the "bullets") have low Protein quality scores. The score is called PDCAAS, and it is used by the National Academy of Sciences, and other international health agencies. I believe that the New whey products probably have a PDCAAS score of about 16. Whey protein has a score of 100 (out of 100) Jerome unjury ® Protein

Hi All I am a little surprised by the interest in the bullet products. Has there been any discussion here about the Protein quality (the value of the protein to your body) in different kinds of supplements? Thanks! Jerome unjury ® Protein

Protein Quality Guidelines from ASMBS now available online We were at the ASMBS Annual meeting last week and new Protein Quality Guidelines were announced. The full paper is online, at Elsevier Just click on the yellow circle. It is an Adobe Acrobat file. The section on protein quality begins approximately page 23. It is pretty long, so here are Here are some exact quotes for the preprint of the whitepaper: - "caution should be used when recommending any type of collagen -based protein supplement" (example: the products some call "bullets" are made almost entirely with collagen) - "The highest quality protein products are made of whey protein" - "product's amino acid score should be the first priority" - "PDCAAS score . . . superior method for the evaluation of protein quality" - "The PDCAAS score indicates the overall quality of a protein." - "The PDCAAS score indicates the body's ability to use that product for protein synthesis." - "The loss of lean body mass can occur despite meeting a daily oral intake protein goal, in the presence of IAA (indispensable amino acid) deficiency." - " . . . whey concentrates can contain varying amounts of lactose . . . whey protein isolates are lactose free" *American Society for Metabolic and Bariatric Surgery Hope this is helpful. Kind regards Jerome unjury ® Protein