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Great finds for your island holiday @ms.sss. ‘Sexy whistle!’ Can see you wearing them with a cocktail in your hand enjoying the sun & sea. Can’t believe you haven’t had a red dress before. You’d look so good in red. Must admit I sometimes struggle to find a true blue red. Was very excited to I find some red wide leg linen pants & matching fitted top in summer. PS - Your hair has got so long.
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Water Retention on Pre Op Liquid Diet
Arabesque replied to Sunshine Princess's topic in PRE-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
You’ll probably pee out your PMT water retention in a couple of days so it won’t have any real impact on your weight when you have your surgery. Plus, your medical team understand how our bodies work. All the best with your surgery. -
I believe the average weight loss for bypass is 65% & sleeve is 60% of the weight you were to lose at the 3year mark. Which is a pretty negligible difference. Bypassers tend to lose more quickly at the beginning but that is no guarantee of how fast you will lose at first as we all lose at our own rate & everyone’s rate of loss slows as you get closer to your goal. You can have a bypass & still be a slow loser & vice versa. My surgeon went through each surgery, pros & cons, but recommended the sleeve based upon my weight loss & gain history, my basic diet & eating habits, & general health which is where I was leaning anyway. You’ll lose weight regardless of the surgery you chose if you work the program. I exceeded my goal with a sleeve but there are factors beyond your control, like genetics, which play a big part in where you’ll end up. Like you will lose more & faster simply because of your gender.
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Hitting Post Op Protein & 64 ozs Fluids
Arabesque replied to Crisscat's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I wouldn’t worry yet. I didn’t meet my goals for a little while but my surgeon was happy I was making an effort & close to where I needed to be. It got easier on purées because I was eating g three times a day During the liquid stage I wasn’t hungry or interested in eating & was only managing two meals a day: a shake & some soup/broth. Was probably only meeting about 2/3 to 3/4 of my goals at first. -
‘Blessed’ wth big feet 🤣🤣. Just the angle I think & the laser cutout work cause they fit well. Though I still have the odd pair I need to move on to a new life because they’re too big for me now. I’m a 37.5/38 which for a shortee like me is probably a little big. Average size feet less than average height. That is a cute set @fourmonthspreop & it looks even cuter on you. The only sad thing is that it will be too big on you soon.
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We all lose at our own rate & unfortunately our rate of loss slows as we get closer to goal. I wouldn’t worry about the 3lb weight gain. Yes, it could be a fluctuation & it could be as you said, you’re not monitoring your food intake as often & have gone off plan. Getting back on your plan is your best way forward. I wouldn’t worry too much about your level of activity. I really didn’t & still don’t exercise. I lost all my weight & more. The truth is exercise accounts only for a 10-20% loss of the weight you have to lose. Got 50lbs to lose, exercising will account for only 5-10lbs. Of course there are physical, emotional & psychological benefits to exercise which will influence your decision but how much & how often you exercise is ultimately yours.
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Day 3 post op and protein shakes?
Arabesque replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
I diluted my shakes (made my own) because they were too thick & sipped them too. Didn’t care if it took me a couple of hours. I was getting in protein & fluids. Win! Did the same with the soups & broths I ate too - dilute & sip. -
Can't see the weight loss
Arabesque replied to Tami10's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
So sorry you experienced those complications with your surgery which hindered your recovery. You’re experiencing body dysmorphia. Your brain hasn’t caught up to the physical realities of your weight loss. It’s still picturing you as you were & can’t see you as you are now. A lot, if not all, of us experience this is some form. As an example, I remember seeing a slim woman’s reflection in a mirror in a store & turning around to look at her because she was wearing the same clothes as me. Time literally ticked by before I realised it was my reflection & I was the slim woman. Comparing old & new photos helps as does putting on something you used to wear & seeing how much too big they are. Take some body measurements as well & record them so you can track those changes too. There are some foods that just don’t sit well with us. Chicken is often a challenging one because it can be too dry. Steak can be too heavy. Pork can be too fatty. And often our taste buds &/or sense of smell changes. It’s usually temporary as is the fussy tummy/food intolerances but your recovery was protracted which may be why you’re still experiencing some of these issues. Give yourself time. Don’t give up on those foods or drinks yet. Just have a break & try them again in a couple of weeks & repeat as needed. -
scared...what will happen when I'm an old lady??
Arabesque replied to traceymmm's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
In the beginning you are eating very small portion sizes & can only sip so you have to drink every couple of minutes. I certain,y didn’t & wasn’t encouraged to eat every 30minutes but only three times a day . (You are advised not to drink 30mins before or after you eat. Maybe you confused the eat every 30mins???) And yes it sometimes can be a struggle to meet your fluid & protein goals every single day but you’ll work out ways around this. It all improves & gets easier. By around month 3 I ate three meals a day & one or two snacks one of which was a high protein yoghurt (15-22g protein) to ensure I got all my protein in. Some continue to have a protein shake which counts as fluid as well as protein. By the time you are in or close to maintenance your portion sizes will have increased to being about the recommended portion size for all food for an adult e.g. 3-4ozs of meat & you’ll be able to do more than just sip. Some say they can get back to drinking whole glasses in one go. Everyone should be drinking 2L/64ozs of fluids a day & everyone should be consuming about 1g of protein per kg of body weight (multiply your weight in pounds by 0.36). Doesn’t matter if they’ve had weight loss surgery or not so it’s not something special to us. By maintenance, If you eat three meals a day, with about 15-25g protein each, you’ll be getting about all the protein you’ll need +/-. Age, activity level, gender does affect the amount you will need of course. Of course while losing we’re given a specific protein goal to compensate the restricted diet. Check out this protein calculator for when your weight has stabilised: https://www.nal.usda.gov/human-nutrition-and-food-safety/dri-calculator Oh & I’m almost 57 & days out from my 3 year anniversary. -
Soaking in a tub after sleeve surgery
Arabesque replied to Happy Stylist's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Will getting in & out if the bath be an issue? Remember any lifting restrictions you have. Mine was not to lift/carry anything heavier than 5kgs the first 2 weeks, then 10kg. I don’t know how you get out of the bath but I always pushed & heaved myself up & I weigh way more than 5kgs. 😂😂. Also soaking in warm water my cause the glue to break down more quickly. But I’d check with your team first too. -
Anyone Struggle Watching Your Family Eat?
Arabesque replied to Crisscat's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
I guess it depends on what the family likes to eat & what your old favourites were that may tempt you. I only have to cook for myself but every couple of weeks or so I spend the weekend with my mother & do the cooking.(She’s 82 & doesn’t always cook or eat well for herself anymore.) In the first year, I remember her emotionally saying she didn’t know what I ate anymore & what she had to buy. The irony was I did the shopping & we ate the same things with maybe the odd slight difference. Like she’d have potatoes but I wouldn’t. She’d have dessert but I wouldn’t. Never had to cook separate meals right from soft foods. I’ve also had impromptu meals with friends & their family & my siblings & their children without issue except I have to say no if they’re making pasta (unless I can have the sauce separately). When you’re on soft or solid foods can you modify some family favourites - swap out cooking methods, swap some ingredients, reduce the fat content, etc. - to make healthier, more nutritious meals to benefit everyone & that complement your eating plan? -
Okay a clothing pxt. Bought the outfit about 2 months ago & first wearing. The shirt which is a cotton organza has these drawstrings you pull up to create the flouncy frill effect. Will have to put the hem up on the pants too. We had a coldish snap overnight (winter is coming) hence the leather jacket (the one I bought last year after much searching) but I only bought my summer brogues to my mum’s which look a bit off but … So funny to be wearing coats & there’s @kristieshannon rocking a bikini & @GreenTealael brightening our day in colourful sunshiny dresses. Got out of the habit of doing special things except for casual catch-ups. We keep saying we have to plan a dinner out, etc. but never get round to it. Don’t think Mother’s Day/7yr old niece birthday morning tea tomorrow counts.
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My hell week starts tomorrow (April 26th)
Arabesque replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Everything does get easier. Just persist & give it time. Great bruises you’ve got there. 😉 -
Stalls are frustrating. Unfortunately you may experience a few as you’re losing & they may last 1-3 weeks (some do last longer - if yours does check with your dietician to see if you need to tweak your eating plan) but they are just part of the journey. There are lots of variation in the plans people follow. Some are given caloric goals while some aren’t (I wasn’t). Some are given portion size recommendations. Some aren’t. Some who are given caloric goals are encouraged to eat 1200 calories from solid foods. If you are worried, check with your dietician. Even on 1200 calories you will lose weight. As @lizonaplane said the goal is not to feel discomfort or your restriction. The goal is to recognise your real hunger & eat enough to satisfy that. At three years out, I still ask myself do I need the next bite or just want it. Remember it takes time for your full signal to kick in. So when you do feel full you’ve likely eaten more than you need. Exercise accounts for 10-20% of your weight loss. Have 50lbs to lose, exercise will account for 5-10lbs. There are lots of physical, psychological & emotional benefits to undertaking regular exercise. But it’s your choice as to what & how much or often you do. I’m not an exerciser. Did very little while I was losing but I still lost all my weight plus more. I do some gentle stretches now & a few wall push-ups but I argue with myself every night about doing it. 😁
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I will eat real food again right?
Arabesque replied to Kmack2015's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Yeah your brain can make things harder. And your changing taste buds &/or sense of smell can make it harder as anything can taste disgusting. I actually appreciated the liquid stage. I wasn’t hungry or interested in eating so the restricted diet meant I didn’t have to think about what to eat - shake or broth. Purées we’re a bit blah because I didn’t enjoy some of the things I pureed. Thank gracious for high protein yoghurt. But don’t be afraid to spice the purées up if your tummy tolerates it. Soft food stage I was eating meat balls, bolognese, chicken casserole, omelettes, fish, Spanish croquettes, etc. Lots of choice really. Then it was just what my tummy tolerated & my taste buds found yummy. I was eating steak, lamb, pork, chicken, seafood, pretty early out with solid food. The first stages are restricted for a reason - to support the healing of your tummy. Nothing wrong with having jello or popsicles as long as you are still getting in your protein which is essential for your recovery & progress. Couple more days you’ll be through the liquid stage. -
Wait, what????
Arabesque replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
I was given a pxt too. I laughed when he gave it to me. He also gave me a pxt of my gall mid surgery when he removed that too. Your weight loss the first week or two can be erratic. You can come out of hospital weighing more from the fluid they pump into you. You can one out weighing less because you’re eating so little & may have experienced diarrhoea. Some surgeons say don’t weigh yourself for a couple of weeks because some people can fluctuate a lot - fluid retention, fluid loss, constipation, diarrhoea, struggling to eat, etc. I came out almost 4lbs heavier after my gall surgery. A couple days later spent 24hrs peeing continuously & lost about 3lbs overnight. -
My hell week starts tomorrow (April 26th)
Arabesque replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
The pain on swallowing is from swelling. It will improve. Took me a couple of days. I carried a sick bag when I was in hospital because I was producing so much saliva - my body trying to soothe my sore throat. Walking & a heating pad will help with the gas pain. Also try leg exercises (even matching sitting down) & deep slow breathing to push the gas up & out your body - surgical gas rises & escapes through your upper body hence the shoulder pain. -
Newbie here👋 Thinking about getting the sleeve
Arabesque replied to Christina1985's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Yes the vitamins can cause nausea. The worst are vitamin C, E & iron are the wurst but others do too. You may find it helpful to see if you’re doubling up on any - like getting iron in your multi vitamin & also taking an iron tablet. Have you tried patches? But you may not have to take them forever. Sleevers don’t have the absorption issues that others do. I took my last one at 8 months, 2 months into maintenance. With my surgeon’s approval because my blood work & all subsequent tests show I don’t need too. I absorb all I need from what I eat. (Except for protein courtesy of my gall removal not my sleeve.) Was very happy to say goodbye nausea. Of course you may need to continue to take supplements if you are lacking in specific vitamins or minerals. -
Going Out To Event 2 weeks Post-Op - should I cancel or play it by ear?
Arabesque replied to FarfelDiego's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
You’ll have to play it by ear because we all recover differently. I went to a joint 60th birthday party just short of three weeks post surgery. I took a protein shake - people thought it was water. Only problem was the party was in their small backyard,100+ guests & no room for seating except their garden bench seat. It was used continuously by their daughter’s boyfriend’s sister who’d had a baby 2 months earlier & a revolving group of her family members. (A friend asked if I could sit down & they refused because she’d had a Caesarian. She may have but the others hadn’t. Yes I was peeved … & still am three years later.) I had to leave after 2 or so hours. I couldn’t stand up any longer. -
Newbie here👋 Thinking about getting the sleeve
Arabesque replied to Christina1985's topic in Gastric Sleeve Surgery Forums
Welcome. i’m very glad I had the surgery. I generally eat what I want & it doesn’t restrict me dining out or socialising with friends. There are foods I choose not to eat (sweet things, highly processed foods, etc.) because I want to maintain my weight loss. I know I will always monitor & watch what I eat & how much. Bad eating habits, poor food choices, cravings, etc. will always be there. The surgery doesn’t remove or stop them. It just gives you time to recognise what they are & why you’re experiencing them & find ways to manage them. There are some foods that sit heavily in my tummy & make me feel full sooner like bread, pasta, rice & potato though some eat them without issue. It’s just who we are as individuals. There can be other odd things you may not tolerate temporarily after surgery or less common long term but there are plenty of alternatives for food allergies & intolerances about these days. Personally, I’ve not vomited as such but have regurgitated a couple of times when I ate something too dry or coarse. It passes quickly & I don’t feel sick or have discomfort like after vomiting. I did have nausea from my vitamins & on odd days for no obvious reason except having a sensitive & fussy tummy after surgery & when losing. Don’t have it all now now. The reality is you will be eating a much more nutritious & balanced diet so your health will improve greatly. A gastric sleeve will (Mayo Clinic) reduce your risk of potentially life-threatening weight-related health problems, including: Heart disease High blood pressure High cholesterol Obstructive sleep apnea Type 2 diabetes Stroke Cancer Infertility Sure I have reflux, but I had it before surgery (managed it well with dietary choices). It’s not worse just different now. Had no comorbidities before surgery but they likely were just waiting to start. A lot of my big weight gain in the last few years was tied to being peri menopausal & then menopausal. I’d struggle lose 2 pounds & gain it straight back hard to fight your hormones & your body. You’ll probably find a lot of negative stories here but that’s because they’re likely looking for advice, support, etc. If things are going well, you tend not to post just reply. Having a support system is important whether family &/or friends. As is having a supportive surgeon, GP, dietician & therapist, if you have one. My surgeon, his associates & my GP are great. Still see my surgeon’s associate every three months for follow ups & blood tests. And my GP reviews everything with me whenever I see her. If anything looks unusual, they monitor & investigate further. That would be my only point to consider with seeking out of state or country surgery - the follow ups. -
Calories per day - 2 months post op?
Arabesque replied to Flab-U-Less Forever's topic in Post-op Diets and Questions
I wasn’t given a calorie goal either just portion sizes. Many aren’t given calorie goals & those who do get a variety of calorie goals. I know I wasn’t consuming many (around 400+/-) cause I did random checks out of curiosity. Got my protein in & a little vegetable at night & I was done. No room for anything else so I would never have met those high calorie goals some are given. Sometimes we need little more structure & guidance so I would check with your dietician to see what they recommend. Then treat it as a guide not a hard & fast rule. The protein & fluid goals are the most important. -
Painful gas after surgery
Arabesque replied to Vivis's topic in POST-Operation Weight Loss Surgery Q&A
You just got to wait it out. After my sleeve I had no gas pain but after my surgeon removed my gall a year later OMG I had a lot. It took a good week to pass. Walk. Warm beverages like herbal tea (peppermint) can help. Try leg lifts & deep slow breathing to pump the gas upwards because surgical gas rises in your body (hence the upper body & shoulder pain). Heat packs can help too. Burping & farting don’t really help because the gas was in your abdominal cavity not inside your tummy or intestines where the farting/burping gas forms. Hope it eases soon. -
Mine still does almost three years out. Like on & off all day long. When I eat. After I eat. When I drink. It will rumble & moan at night when I rest my iPad on my abdomen. Sometimes it rumbles more after dairy (with or without lactose). I have even had to apologise for the noise. My young nieces & nephews think it’s hilarious too. After surgery it’s likely from the acid in your empty stomach. After it’s just your digestive system working properly. Rarely is related to hunger as most people presume.
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My hell week starts tomorrow (April 26th)
Arabesque replied to SleeveToBypass2023's topic in General Weight Loss Surgery Discussions
Congrats on your surgery. Whoo hoo!! The upper body pain is likely gas pain. It rises in your body as it escapes. Tends to make one shoulder hurt more than the other. Walk, when not napping 😉, to help it escape. Love those nana naps. Which I had an excuse to still have one every day. 😁 -
I agree. Contact your surgeon. This isn’t right. Have you spoken to them about this before? The only slight nausea I had was from my multivitamins most mornings. Is yours after every meal or does it just persist all day? Gluten & lactose intolerances can cause nausea too. And it is not uncommon for these intolerances to develop after surgery. Sometimes temporarily sometimes long term. Might be worth swapping out your dairy for lactose free versions & for some gluten free options for any wheat products you may be consuming. Hooe they can sort this out fur you soon