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hair skin and nails gummies are very helpful, I like natures way with Biotin And collagen. Another beneficial supplement is hyaluronic acid. I would also highly recommend coq10 gummies. Plus garden of life makes the best Multivitamin gummies for women, they are Whole food based so you get more nutrition. It does cost a little more but you get more benefits. I also take hero nutritional slice of life omegas. My hair is already very fine like baby hair and thin. I’m not as far out from surgery yet though. But I can say we still need healthy fats for healthy hair and skin. I’d recommend a massaging scalp/ Shampoo brush I massage my scalp when I shampoo, healthy scalp = healthy hair. (I got it from bed bath and beyond)

@Frustr8 I understand. I might be calendar younger. But my body isn’t. I’m exhausted. I can’t say I regret surgery. I fought hard for it. I’m just exhausted with everything that goes awry and not having solutions.

For me a Goal weight is hard to perceive, I think I remember being called mildly obese in school and maybe weighed 135lbs I was actually 4” taller then and had a bigger body frame. Due to illness I lost bone density and have very small bony wrists compared to then. And I’m 5’ - tall.

Im exhausted with the never ending battle with my weight. At my highest over 215 lb I fought so hard to lose weight. I’d guess it was sometime prior to 2009. I can’t even remember. My weight at its lowest was around 124 lb. I struggled to keep it there but It kept creeping up. 2010 I had major surgery. Despite that I traveled to visit someone I thought was my best friend. To be there for her during the holidays.

i don’t understand people. Pretty much the first thing she said was something like I’m going to fatten you up. Let’s just say the whole thing turned into a bad dream.

I gained weight that I again fought to lose. I was down to 134 lb and that was during the process of moving to Florida. But somewhere at some point my weight jumped 30 lbs and for no reason I could discern. And then another 30. And I kept begging the doctors to help me. I dreaded seeing 200 again. But I did and my BMI hit 40.

My body can’t handle the weight, my immune system either. I was too afraid to set a goal weight. I’d be glad to get back to square one and hopefully beyond that. And be able to maintain it. My metabolic disorders looming over me. And the difficulties of ulcers, Dysphasia, stricture, etc. and my day to day chronic illness. I don’t really think about goal weight. I’m still on liquids and at best a Protein Soup with Pasta that is a little easier to eat since the soft pasta goes down easier.

I hit the 42 lb loss mark. I forgot how much time has passed since surgery. I should be on regular food by now. I think July 12 was the timeline to hit phase 4. I had a endoscopy but never heard from my surgeon. They did a small dilation. But I’m having intermittent crushing pain in the center of my chest. And I’m feeling ulcers. I’m just beyond exhausted.

I think it refers to a Protein that’s 80% casein. I don’t think 100% isolate is good either.

https://www.thenutritiondr.com/single-post/2018/12/20/What-Protein-is-Best-after-Gastric-ByPass-Surgery

This is the protein I use. I don’t know the percentages but they put a lot of research into their products, even when it comes to flavors.

https://pescience.com/collections/all/products/select-protein?variant=185086083098

this is a bit confusing to me, maybe more because of how tired I am. I know it’s not the highest protein per portion it’s 24 grams so I use 6 ounces plant protein milk to make it 30 grams.

I find it oddly contradicting that my nutritionist says use skim milk when it’s very high in sugar, even fairlife is 6 grams. But she says no more than 4 grams of sugar in a meal. A lot of people can’t tolerate dairy after surgery. The non dairy milk I use is zero sugar. The protein depends on flavor but 2 grams or most are less than one gram of sugar the same for carbs. Peanut Butter cookie is 2 carbs, and Cookies and cream is less than one.

12 minutes ago, Cl@ireyBearry said:

I have never heard of Ripple Milk. What is it? Where is it available?

Ripple milk is a plant based milk it has much more Protein than nut milks, it’s pea protein. The unsweetened has zero sugar. I buy it in Target, my grocery also sells it but target is less $ Whole Foods also has it if I need it delivered.

They are also an environmentally conscious company. It takes much less Water to produce the milk. Plus after trying many types of milk I like it best.

https://www.ripplefoods.com/?gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3LrI35bU4wIVD5-fCh2PXQmEEAAYASAAEgJhUvD_BwE

I have to say the new science is that a combination of high quality whey Protein isolate and casein is best. I couldn’t tolerate Isopure or other 100% whey protein isolates. I found PEScience and the flavors are good. I mix one scoop of 24 grams protein PEScience with 6 oz Ripple milk (plant based unsweetened with zero sugar) and 2 oz Water. To get a 30 grams of Protein Shake.

Ive had Peanut Butter cookie, and Cookies and cream. Very low carb and little to no sugar.

https://pescience.com/

The one gram per ounce is the Ripple milk that I mix with Protein powder. The PEScience protein powder is 24 grams protein per serving. With 6 oz of Ripple milk it’s a total of 30 grams protein. I use it because it has zero sugar compared to skim milk. And 30 grams protein is optimal for a Meal Replacement.

@FluffyChix thanks. Nutrition is no solid definite when it comes to Protein (or anything) and I can know something yet also find it confusing. While I haven’t counted my carbs I have kept them fairly low.

I am carb sensitive, i counted carbs for so long but for some reason the simple things are getting harder to manage. I guess I’d hoped I wouldn’t have to count them as closely as I did before. Some things like my Breakfast shake with PEScience it’s nearly no carbs. The plant based Koia are a little more. I’m still on mostly liquids except sometimes BariatricPal protein Pasta. Their Soup. And the juice flavored Protein Drinks. I will try to add more protein options without adding carbs. Which is hard while I am not tolerating purée yet. And I haven’t eaten meat Beyond Broth. Bone Broth is a good source of protein.

I have pcos (glucose intolerance) which is why I worry about too much protein stalling my weight and bloating me. Plus other metabolic issues. Protein calculators might take into consideration activity level but not medical conditions.

Sorry. I shouldn’t answer posts when I’m too tired to think. I’m doing my best but it never feels like enough.

The scoop always gets hidden under the Protein. I didn’t like Syntrax. My favorite protein is PEScience. I mix my Protein Powder with unsweetened Ripple milk. It’s pea protein and is 1 gram of protein per ounce. I never understood the skim milk recommendation since it’s a lot of sugar vs ripple milk that is zero.

I was trying to research this again and keep hitting on information that says too much Protein that isn’t utilized by the body turns to glucose. Also never to have more than 30 grams protein at a time since your body won’t use more than that. I’ve also seen new information that says it’s better to have your protein before rest vs before exercise. Ie before bed. Since you need the protein more for muscle repair. I don’t remember exactly, you don’t want your body burning the protein you’ve consumed during exercise (you want to burn fat)

I know there are protein calculators but I can’t find a balance. I’ve been getting between 50-60 grams protein a day. Protein calculators recommend such high amounts of protein but you need to be utilizing it for it to be effective otherwise it turns to glucose.

https://www.ascentprotein.com/pages/protein-calculator

I require help with phone calls and at times trying to get information through to doctors, my mother does what she can. Sometimes it’s like navigating blind.

Whenever I try to write things down for the doctor they don’t want to read it, they say or imply they have to hear it from me. Never mind that just the act of being there and trying to explain things, exhausts me. We are trying to get through to the doctors office to get information, they ordered the ultrasound to follow up on the CT scan even though the technician later said that’s going backwards and an mri should have been ordered. No one passes on information. It should have been in my records from the original ct scan. My specialist doctor (uro/gyn) who did my pelvic surgery should have had the records from the hospital when I went to the Er. When I made an appointment to see him they had me see a nurse practitioner instead.

Maybe I said this already. I’m sorry. My bathroom is being renovated and today is a noisy day.

I had to get emailed the blood test results but they seem inconclusive. The doctor was looking to rule out myasthenia Gravis but not all people with it have positive blood test results. I have the symptoms. He was looking into it due to neurologically caused dysphasia.

I can deal with what I know, but there are always questions without answers. The more I know the easier it is to handle everything on my plate. But I’ll never have a normal life. I have come to terms with that for the most part. Mainly I’m just getting by. I probably posted too much. I don’t usually post in public forums. I hadn’t done so in a long time. After it led to a disaster of a “friendship”

1 hour ago, FluffyChix said:

Wow. So belly fat is often the last part to go as other posters mentioned.

Also, your mass needs to be checked. So please follow-up and insist on having it imaged. That is also interfering with your losses in your abdomen. Go get that fixed girl. You've now lost 41lbs. So you are in a better shape to have that removed. It's probably a pedunculated fibroid tumor (rarely malignant), and in most cases the solution is a total hysterectomy. I know this cuz I had many along with a 4 month "fetus" sized uterus that made my gut huge. So don't wait for that. ((hugs)) Congrats on the 41lbs! Outstanding!

Thanks @FluffyChix I guess I should have mentioned in 2010 I had a hysterectomy due to fast growing fibroids that were growing everywhere. I actually had a pedunculated fibroid on my uterus, my uterus was retroflexed and bending toward my spine and the fibroid was there so it pushed into my colon and spine. Fibroids were in the walls of my uterus, cervical, and my left ovary. Pathology showed all kinds of cysts and nodules in both as well. The doctor and I knew this was my only option. I have a distrust for ultrasound since there was a growth on my left ovary they called a complex cyst it was a fibroid. She left my ovaries, removing the fibroid.

ffw to 2018 and I needed pelvic floor surgery to try to help some issues from the hysterectomy. An ultrasound showed a mass on my left ovary. In surgery it turned out to be endometriosis. He left the other ovary despite seeing some endometriosis there.

Given my history, the fact that they saw a decent size mass in the right adnexa on a CT, I just want to know and the tech that did the ultrasounds said I should have an mri to get a clearer picture. And they said they would speak to the doctors office about it. But no one said anything. I had an appointment to see him but he actually canceled it. Then the office called and said why didn’t I show up. I have a very hard time dealing with doctors, worse for being on the autism spectrum.

Its exhausting. I’ve never had a flat stomach but My abdomen was not quite like this except for before I had my hysterectomy. And it was huge then (I weighed less)

im also waiting on bloodwork results that should have come by now. It’s been two weeks. They always show up online within a week. So of course my brain goes to the place, does my doctor not want me to see the results?

btw thank you so much for the congrats, I appreciate it. I find it uncomfortable if someone says I “look good” A. Looks doesn’t equate good health and B. I actually didn’t have RNY For looks. Definitely not for other people. Anyone I’ve known, from family to friends have all run off due to my chronic illness, disability and being on the spectrum.

ty again

I had wanted to post on this subject before but didn’t know how to approach it. I live with daily chronic pain amongst many other things and I have high pain tolerance, but after surgery in the hospital, it set off everything all at once, nerves firing, sensory overload, every chronic pain in my body screaming. It started with spasms and pain in my neck and lower spine. And I couldn’t move my body to get out of bed, I could barely maneuver in bed. At that point I nearly broke. But I did my best to hold back. The nurses didn’t understand pain beyond surgical pain. Nor do the surgeons understand anything beyond the surgery recovery. And the assumption that all health issues will go away with weight loss. While true for some, not true for all.

i didn’t find out until afterward that nsaids were to be avoided. I had liquid pain medication from the hospital but according to them it should be stopped immediately or not taken. I stretched it out by taken it sparingly twice a day, then once a day until it ran out. I have no pain management. I cope the best I can. But need to function through fatigue. Higher pain levels. Higher fatigue. NSAID didn’t do much but took the edge off.

I think that the surgery effects how the meds are utilized. We aren’t told that crushing the pills or opening capsules will effect how they are processed. I tried to tell my doctor I can’t take the proton pump inhibitors especially having to open the capsules but he didn’t listen. I’m already extremely sensitive to medication (multiple chemical sensitivities)

its been extremely hard to find medication that comes in a liquid form. AND that my insurance covers. I’m still trying to find a muscle relaxer. Plus I don’t know how to take something that has to be slow release ... it’s hard enough to get my insurance to cover a name brand vs generic. I had to stop an important medication because of that. Sometimes Name brand causes less side effects.

I can’t say I would have not had the surgery had I known. My metabolism is slower than a sloth and my body wasn’t burning enough calories that even eating 800 calories and low carb I was steadily gaining weight. And quickly. The surgery was my last grasp to find a tool to help me. Either that or give up.

5 hours ago, MeowAMR said:

I was the same way. Just gaining with no change to diet and I wasn't eating terribly. I just didn't understand why I was gaining until my endocrinologist told me it was the PCOS. That's why I am going the bariatric route too. Mostly because of the other symptoms other then the weight gain. Facial hair drives me nuts! I just want that to go away!

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I was eating healthier and still gaining. I calculated my calories based on pcos and that still wasn’t working. It is frustrating. I can’t take suggested pcos medication because it makes endometriosis worse. It was so hard to get any of my doctors to listen and understand that I was fighting hard and needed help. But I kept pushing. I’m still having issues with my abdomen swelling.

Id like to say the facial hair will go away. It hasn’t. I think once the hair is there unless you can get laser hair removal it won’t go away. It’s possible that new growth might stop. I’m tired of checking for hair every morning. I’ve been getting breakouts. I’m hoping that will get better. I use tamanu oil.

I needed surgery as a tool to help first with weight loss. My boy can’t take the burden of so much weight. Im not sure exactly the impact of the surgery on hormones. I don’t even think the doctors know that. But getting rid of excess fat is probably part of what helps pcos, so if you can exercise, try to work on building muscle since muscle burns fat.

Thanks, I finally hit a 41lb loss but my waist is still the same. I guess I’m just feeling something else is going on here. Usually if I sense a problem it’s correct but I just don’t know what. Ive tried to address this with my doctors with no success. I was supposed to have a colonoscopy prior to surgery but the date of surgery ended up coming first. I had a CT scan that showed suspected colitis.

I have pcos, endometriosis, late onset congenital adrenal hyperplasia. Some years ago I had to have a hysterectomy. Than prior to RNY surgery had surgery related to that and the doctor had to remove one of my ovaries covered in endometriosis.

I actually used to be 5’ 4” but degenerative disc disease and now scoliosis I’m 5’ losing weight Im reminded how much bone density I lost over the years my wrists, fingers and forearms are bony as heck. People would look at me and wonder why I was having weight loss surgery. But I had already hit 208lbs and feared it going higher.

I can see muscle wasting I had started to develop and my primary care wanted me to see a neuromuscular specialist at the time. My current neurologist is running tests because I was told I have Dysphasia. Yet my stomach is still so swollen.

I wish I could just go to a gym. Muscle burns fat. But i have one of few medical conditions that exercise is damaging. Exertion anywhere from writing this message, to daily tasks, to exercising actually damage and age muscles and exacerbate sy. I’ve tried to trick body, going on slow walks, taking photos. But every step I feel it and when I’m done I crash hard. I haven’t been able to even try do that since April.

It was probably a dumb question for me to ask. But thank you for the responses.

I don’t know if this has been discussed before but I see people talk about how you should look more at size loss (measurements) than the scale.

I am getting frustrated at the fact that my weight is going down and I should be fitting smaller sizes but my measurements don’t seem to match the scale. I am 5’ and I think my weight loss finally hit 39lbs. (203lbs at surgery)

I did buy a few pieces of loose clothes that were on the bigger side and then switched to size large in some activewear bottoms that run I guess size 14-16? and men’s T-shirt’s also size large (women’s xl?) I bought other size L but they run 12-14 (old navy) the 14-16 are a little loose especially my hips and the 12-14 too tight once they hit my stomach. I buy stuff when I can get it cheap enough on sale. I wanted back ups since I thought I’d at least fit the smaller size large.

I finally decided to measure. I’d swear despite the weight loss my measurements haven’t changed. My abdomen is still abnormally swollen. And I’m frustrated. It did go down in size under my bust, but my waist wherever it is, is still big. My upper bust could probably fit a women’s medium, buy my stomach a L-XL. My hips aren’t that big 42”. But once you get to my abdomen it’s out of proportion.

I have a mass in my pelvic area but my doctor told me to wait even though he didn’t follow what the ct scan results said to (follow up with another test to check if it’s a risk and if I need biopsy) the ultrasound wasn’t able to visualize the mass. The tech said I need an mri, but my doctor? No he said wait. It was already two months or more by the time I got an appointment to see him. But I digress.

Im just worried that the measurements aren’t changing.

I was always a denim Bermuda shorts and T-shirt person but now I’m wearing exercise capris. Since I can’t afford to try to find shorts that fit.

My weight went up so rapidly (again) that I was size 4 and bought a size 6 Levi’s that I never got to wear and are in a bin in my closet with new size small tops and size 5 underwear. I have no idea how long the bin has been in my closet (I buy things when I can find big sales but only enough for what I need but I won’t get into my ocd clothing habits) I rapidly went up to a large size 14 with a lot of stretch. At that point I couldn’t afford to size up again. The denim would end up not fitting my stomach and scrunch up on my hips.

Im sorry my post likely is just a lot of nonsense. I just can’t get answers from my doctors. Of course there are more important issues than measurements and pant size but my abdomen is just endlessly painfully swollen.

Having PCOS, Late onset congenital adrenal hyperplasia, and endometriosis (amongst other things) they were my reasons for pursuing RNY Gastric bypass surgery. I don’t honestly expect my pcos to get better but perhaps just because my situation is a bit different.

Long story short I rapidly gained a lot of weight before being diagnosed pcos. When I hit over 215lbs I desperately fought back. I did a combination low carb calorie counting. It did work slow but steady. I was actually down to 124lbs but being chronically ill and disabled. It was hard keeping it down. Even adding healthy foods like vegetables. It kept sliding up. I fell off low carb for a bit, got back on to get my weight back down.

Fast forward to not that long ago (my memory can’t say when) my weight did a drastic jump with no change in diet and I frantically tried to get help. My abdomen was swollen as well. And I was careening back to 200 + despite my efforts.

Id swear I’ve got the metabolism of a sloth. And can’t exercise to burn calories. I was totally lost and started investigating bariatric surgery. I wasn’t sure it could even happen.

So when finally a endocrinologist referred me to Cleveland Clinic. I knew it was all in on RNY or ... give up. I just wanted a chance at getting my weight under control because my body couldn’t Carry the burden of being over 200lbs at 5’ and with many medical conditions.

my rate of loss? I keep my calories fairly low. I have stalls that last a few days. But I’m always worried that it won’t keep going down. Or that I’ll never be able to eat normal food or calories. Of course to me normal would be even 800 calories. Which I did before the surgery. It is frustrating. Plus I’m still struggling with a swollen abdomen.

I probably didn’t answer anything. For some people just losing weight can help pcos a lot.

If you still have your gallbladder, a large percentage of people that have gastric bypass surgery end up with gallbladder problems due to rapid weight loss. I had lost a lot of weight before and I’m pretty certain that’s what did my gallbladder in. It wasn’t until I had RNY and they took my gallbladder out that they found it was chronic inflammation.

I knew I had an ulcer but no one really believed me until I had the endoscopy, but I still question - how do they know if there are ulcers in the remnant stomach. I had them there prior to surgery. And my gut tells me there’s more to this pain. The hard part is keeping after your doctor until you get answers.

21 Medication Rules after Gastric Bypass

There are certain pills that you should not be taking after surgery because they will either irritate your pouch, such as all pills in the NSAIDs catagory or pills that just won't be absorbed like they should. Any pills with enteric coating (kind of like a candy coating) or any extended release type med may not be absorbed like it is supposed to. If any of your meds do fall into those catagories you will want to get them changed. Those meds need the gastric juices to break them down and after RNY those juices just aren't there to do the job until well down your intestinal system which won't be enough time to break those meds down.

So basicly, you want to avoid any meds that are extended release, delayed, controlled, sustained or any medication that is an NSAIDs.

Over-the-counter NSAIDs are:

Aspirin, Motrin, Advil, Aleve, Orudis KT, Ibuprofen, Excederin

Prescribed NSAIDs are:

Motrin, Naprosyn, Anaprox, Toradol, Lodine, Feldene, Indocin, Daypro, Relafen, Voltaren and Celebrex.

There is the belief by some surgeons out there that even one NSAIDs can cause some kind of damage to your pouch and they strongly recommend staying away from them, if possible. If medically there is a reason to be taking them, such as the use of low dose asprin for heart conditions, it is okay to take them but you should also be placed on some kind of protectant such as Carafate or Cytotec.

If you are unsure if any of the meds you are on fall into any of these catagories talk to your Pharmacist, they will know. It isn't a bad idea to let your Pharmacist know that you are a Gastric Bypass patient. They can list it in your information almost like an allergy so that if you are ordered a med that you shouldn't be on an alert will be generated. There are ALOT of physicians out there that don't know this kind of information it is our respondsibility to make sure they are aware of it.

Here are 21 basic rules we should all follow in regards to our meds:

1. If side effects appear or increase, consult your doctor or your pharmacist about dosage or other medication options.

2. First-pass effect medications may not provide effective absorption at the currant dosages. Check dosage or check for alternative medications that do not have first pass effect. (your Pharmacist will know if any of your meds are "first-pass" meds)

3. Medications that are in a liquid or solution form will be absorbed faster than those that are solids. Check for liquid forms of medications.

4. No extended-release, sustained-release, controlled-release, timed-release or osmotic pump medications.

5. Many medications can also have gastrointestinal side-effects like gas, diarrhea, Constipation or intestinal cramping.

6. Read the pamphlet attached to the prescription bag for potential side-effects.

7. You should not take any NSAIDs without a protectant such as Cytotec or Carafate. EVER!!!!

8. Be able to recognize an NSAIDs when you see one.

9. Use a protectant if taking daily low-dose aspirin for heart health or to prevent stroke.

10. Check all PMS over the counter medications (OTC) for NSAID ingredients.

11. Read all OTC medication packaging to check for NSAIDs ingredients.

12. Inhaled steroids for asthma are okay.

13. Taking steroids of any kind, even by injection, requires taking a protectant as well.

14. Medications commonly used in the treatment and prevention of osteoporosis such as Fosamax, Actonel and Boniva have the potential to cause gastrointestinal ulceration. Talk to your doctor or pharmacist about alternatives.

15. Do not continue to take medications that have been discontinued.

16. If dosages have been changed, do not finish out a previous dosage just because it is there. CHange the dosage immediately unless instructed otherwise by your physician.

17. Ask your doctor or pharmacist if any of your medications are fat soluble. If so, stay in touch with the prescribing physician and report your currant weight every month for possible dosage changes. (as the amount of fat in your body changes your dosages may also need to be changed)

18. Tell all medical providers about your status as a weight loss surgery patient. (Lap-Banders too!)

19. Keep all your scripts at one pharmacy if possible.

20. Meet and get to know your local pharmacists. They truly can be invaluable friends.

21. Remember to have everyone work as a team for you! You're worth it!

One other word of warning when it comes to taking Tylenol. You MUST watch the amount of Tylenol you are taking. No more than 4,000mg in a 24 hour period. You can cause yourself liver damage with Tylenol overdose. You need to read your labels. Look to see if things have Tylenol or acetamenophin in them. Vicodan has Tylenol so if you are taking Vicodan or Lortab make sure you aren't adding a lot of Tylenol on top of it. That is why it is important to read the information on those pharmacy bags and on otc medications.

Having chronic illness I’m trying to figure this out myself. I have basically no pain management. Especially since nsaids like Motrin are on the permanent cannot have list. Some pills should never be crushed. Some (if you are Lucky) might come in a liquid form. The crushed pills put too much into your system too fast. I did find a post on another forum with Information about medication after gastric bypass surgery. I don’t think the surgeons know anything, nor did mine ever mention medications after surgery. Seems that none of them do or know. Maybe they assume we won’t need medication afterwards.

i will look for the information and share it below.

10 hours ago, ARMoma45 said:

Was the recovery any longer or worse with the gallbladder removed?

Recovery was probably no worse than without the gallbladder removal. Although my surgeon said he wouldn’t do them together if it was too risky.

I have difficulty with recovery from surgery for other reasons so my complications that came up are more likely due to lifelong chronic illness (immunodeficiency) and disability.

13 hours ago, KarenLR75 said:

I have always assumed, ok..in the last few weeks when I changed dr's and the new one said that I could indeed have a gastric bypass and that based on the weight I need to lose, etc. it would be the best best - especially as my insurance is a "one and done" (i.e. you only get 1 bariatric surgery..EVER)....I assumed the RNY would be done via laparoscopy?

Hopefully the days of "open" RNY's, etc. are a thing of the past. However, I just got my "official copy" of my insurance approval and it says "Gastric Bypass by Endoscopy"

What the heck? Is this a normal part of RNY - do they go down your..um...esophagus and also do little incisions on your abdomen? I've been so heavily sleeve focused for past 3 yrs, I feel like I've missed something crucial..or I just don't understand. Why am I drawing a blank on this??

It's just made me....pause (not changing mind - still having surgery on 7/25)...and try to 'catch up' on just what is going to happen "now". I mean, I've watched videos, TV shows, etc. but so far I've seen the use of robotics/laparoscopy or just laparoscopy. Maybe I wasn't paying attention enough or missed that part of the show?

Endoscopy is a pre-op requirement for bariatric surgery. Sometimes they word thins strange. My patient portal lists an endoscopy as surgery. Insurance tends to word things rather odd as well, and I have never heard of gastric bypass done by endoscopy, only laparoscopically. The only procedure performed by endoscopy is minor stitching, balloon dilation, but never full on surgery.

I had laparoscopy RNY, Six incisions plus the drain. I also needed my gallbladder removed. Low functioning Hida scan and turned out to be chronic inflammation. I don’t think any doctor would do open surgery unless in an emergency.

7 minutes ago, FluffyChix said:

I was instructed to thin it down to pourable state for it to qualify as liquid. So I used my Protein Drink to thin it out.

Thank you @FluffyChixThe blueberry Syrup thins it out somewhat, I’ll try to remember to add a little pea Protein milk.

I hope you are continuing to do better after your surgery.

The doctors scale always seems different than my own, I was checking on two different scales until I put the other one away for now and using my mother’s bathroom scale. Every so often the two would say the same weight, but mostly they didn’t match up. I figured I’m just obsessed. But make sure the scale is on a solid level floor like tile. My bedroom floor had some flex to it I guess it throws the scale off. Also how you stand on it seems to make a difference (or maybe my imagination) but step on it with feet at the outer edges (a more stable stance?) and look straight ahead and not down at the scale until it’s done calculating.

That said I go by my home scale (I always forget what the surgeon scale says) my general practitioner scale always seems on the high side.

I had an endoscopy Thursday July 11th and my weight went up and got stuck for the past few days.

Each surgeon has their own dietary program but the main goal is Water and Protein.

I just consume enough to get my daily protein and haven’t been fixed to any specific number of meals. I do make sure to have a 30 grams of Protein Shake in the morning which is a combination of PEScience Protein Powder with 6 oz Ripple pea protein milk and usually 2 oz water. to be honest I don’t usually have lunch. If I have less protein in the morning like a 18 grams protein Koia drink then I might have a BariatricPal juice flavor protein drink mid day. I get the rest of my protein in the evening.

@FluffyChixI didn’t know yogurt was considered a full liquid. I have been stuck in liquid phase, yogurt seems to go down easier. I will definitely be getting more. I bought siggis skyr yogurt since it’s the highest protein with the least sugar (plain and I add a little sweet leaf stevia blueberry syrup) Icelandic yogurt only has 3 grams sugar.

Protein isn’t exclusive to meat, green leafy vegetables like broccoli, spinach, asparagus and artichokes, Beans, Brussels sprouts, potatoes, sweet potatoes, legumes, lentils, soy, tempeh, seitan, edamame, quinoa, chia seeds, hempseed, peas (pea protein) oats, nut butters, nutritional yeast, etc. have protein.

even some fruits have protein like guava, blackberries, nectarines and bananas.

Not all vegan foods are healthy and you still need protein. I’m not sure I understand the no oils part. Our body needs healthy fats, including for brain function. A lot of people do Atkins vegan. High fat, moderate protein and low carb, no added sugar and low glycemic foods.

Im not arguing your post. I studied nutrition. I’ve also seen a lot of people who eat plant based become extremely unhealthy. Not to say vegan can’t be healthy. But certain things need to be supplemented. And the body still needs healthy fats and protein to function. Protein is more for muscle maintenance and repair and is Best before rest than exercise.