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But I thought I got to be your bestest friendest in the wholest worldest. I'm not sure I wanta be in your posse now!

Telly - you totally didn't participate in the lesbian talk... do you have something to hide?

George Carlin used the word "FUCK" for his bit! But I'd say it's still plagiarism.

Ok - What I should have said was "Did you listen to bull-shit like that when you were fat?" I mean telling someone who is overweight that "Just because you can eat a lot does that mean you should"... is bull - did you listen to that crap pre-banding? Overweight people have a problem and the band is supposed to help us not "eat a lot"... that was the original posters point... is "why can I still eat a lot".... she didn't say "Should I still eat a lot?" Obviously, we shouldn't eat a lot with or without the band! The band is a tool to help us not eat a lot.... Yes it still takes the head to make decisions about not eating Ice Cream! (or milk-shakes or candy) So I agree it is a combination of the head and the band.... I just don't think BS "sayings" are helpful!

I'm sure I felt her pinch my "smaller then before" booty during that hug!! And I think she may have squeezed my breast! (I was holding off til evening for the lesbian references... but guys dig it)

Well we are losing the poll.... but thanks for agreeing with me! I also empathize with the other side but really I've never seen banning work. It just seems like message boards in general are plaqued with this stuff! I don't like the banning or the censorship and would rather post at a site that is more free with the rules... but it's not my choice (I get that). I continue to post here (occassionaly) but still it's urks me when members are getting banned weather I liked them or not!

Well hell!! If you live in KY and have a possee too then I'm in!! (Can I be in?) I promise to not stalk you, I'll watch your back at all cost of being banned, and I'll fight tooth and nail if you ever get banned!

Well I just thought the "Ignore and they'll go away policy" could be sucessful and I've never seen it tried here since there are always "TROLL" names. I guess I'm the only one who thinks that "Banning is ineffective" and I can accept that but I had to ask!

Hey now... I wanted to be in your posse but now you are making fun of my state!! Just to let you know I revere my man for more then just having all his teeth! And I actually wear shoes here in Kentucky!

I do I do!! I come to these places (message boards) for good advice, funny advice, interesting opinions and "GOOD HUGS"

Again... I'm not trying to change anything so addressing them would be unnecessary. I don't care about our rights... I care about peoples opinions... That's why I asked!

That exactly is more of the type of opinoin I was looking for!! I applaud you for the great opinion. I myself am of the opposite opinion that if you just ignore them, they will get bored and go away. But still what you just said is what I was curious to learn... and that was what everyone besides myself thought about it.

Exactly what I'm saying.... except the bad news is that even if you ban an IP address the person can (and most likely will) come back since that doesn't really work either!

I don't want to ask Alex or any of the moderators.... I wanted a poll question for the Users.... That's the difference!

Did you listen to allegories like that when you were fat? The secret to success pre-banding was in your head too.... yet people still get fat? Most likely because we don't listen to our heads and that's why we get the band. The secret to the band is proper restriction. I've already tried working on my head and that failed... now I'm trying the band!

I don't mind being disrespectful when questions need to be asked! Banning won't stop the issue but it look like from the poll so far people think it works! hahahaha!

Blocking people with IP addresses can always be overcome! And since both married people and / co-workers will use a single board it hurts those people to try. Just use IP spoofing software... then you can be whoever your little heart desires!

It's your opinon that it's not my business.... If they don't want me to question the policies here... they can ban me also! It's their right as board owner, bandwidth payer and/or moderator!! But someone else could question that too!

It is my business how it's run. I might not be able to change it but unless they want to ban me for questioning it then I can still ask the question??? I think it's ineffective to ban due to the ability to start a new user name. The next way to stop a banned memeber would be to block IP address and that's not super effective either. And I certainly realize it's a privilage to post on a public board that someone else runs and pays for.... but that doesn't prevent me for questioning how it's run. If you think the "agruing" is so disruptive then why do you participate? I personally join in here "sometimes" because I enjoy it. When it's not longer enjoyable then I may or may not continue. If others are childish I can decide each and everytime If I myself want to also be childish! Since I know how to ignore post I don't find "enjoyable" and because banning members seems ineffictive at preventing the fighting then I choice to question the moderators decision. I'm just curious to see what others feel about the banning issue....

I think we should come up with at good list of the pro's & con's of the band... everyone could contribute and it could help others with their personal decision. Would I get the band again? I'm not sure - it's worked some (stalled some) - it's been hard - it's been fickle - and it's kind of weird to adjust too. My list would start out like this.... * The band doesn't prevent hunger but helps you stop eating solid food sooner and thus should prevent overeating. The "STOP Sign" could be fullness to some, pain to others or somewhere in between. * If you are addicted to candy, chocolate, milk shakes and / or ice cream the band will not help with that addiction. You may still lose weight if you can avoid those foods but you will not feel them or get that "Stop Sign" from the band. * The band helps you eat smaller portions if you continue to make good band food choices (which is still basically being on a diet). If you think you can eat anything you want with just smaller portions you are mistaken. * Even with the band and eating less then 1000 calories a day and exercising a minimum of 30 to 60 minutes per day you may not lose or you may lose very slowly. (I don't know why). You also may lose in spurts and then stall for several weeks to several months. It's sad I know! Anyone else have bullet points that you wish you would have known before banding?

What I didn't realize before surgery and wish to god I would have read somewhere was how easy it is to cheat.... I'm not saying I have no will power but I honestly do not like many healthy foods and didn't realize that junk food would go down ok while healthly food would cause pain. I was under the impression that the band would restrict all food and that I would eat less. I was hoping to not care so much about "candy" or "ice cream" or "milk shakes"... well it turns out when I'm hurting and hungry those are the things that actually go down. That just sucks!!! I had a few weeks of pure heaven with the band where I didn't care at all about food.... I didn't want anything because I was in constant pain from the PB's. I actually liked that feeling... then I learned how well ice cream went down and since I wasn't eating hardly anything I figured a scoop wouldn't hurt.... now it's like I'm fighting the addiction again. The addiction of junk food that the band didn't help with. Sooooo my advice is if you are a person who likes junk food this might not be the right surgery for you. PS... Yes I'm a rule breaker, I ate mushies before I was supposed too becuase I was friggin hungry and isn't that why we all got the band because we were friggin hungry and couldn't control what we put in our mouths? I'm just tired of being hungry or in pain! I wish I could just find some simple foods that are solids and not candy... that keep me full without pain.

I always drink from a straw and do not have any gas problems. It actually seems like I get less air then drinking from a bottle, glass etc. I don't drink soda because of the gas pain but my Protein shake is in a metal can and I hate the way it feels without using a straw or pouring it into a glass.

I have a funny suggestion... they have the suger free choc. from Russell Stovers and Pure Delite and several other brands that contain "sugar aclohols" as a sugar replacement. They have less calories plus the added benefit of tons of gas and diarea. You'll be too embarassed (and/or sick) to eat very many of them. They actually taste really good but you just have to know your limit on not getting sick from them. Helps me not eat too much!!! I keep the sugar free turtles and just eat one.... if I eat three it's an evening in the bathroom.

You know everyone has been saying that we don't realize how thin we are when we were there and that is soo true. But I did have one "weight related blessing" and that was I got back down to goal in 2002 and stayed there for about 9 months.... it was heaven and I appreciated every second of it. When I started gaining I fought so hard to stay down but my life style (traveling for my job) and time constraints took me from exercising and the weight just fell back on. I gained over 90 pounds in a year. But I remember... what it was like.

I understand your frustration even though I'm losing I can emphasize with your dilemma. I always hated when people in the past told me to be patience and just give it time. I used to not mind to exercise or diet but hated the months and months of no results. Since I've been banded and have a really tight fill (which I know isn't the healthiest thing to do) I'm finally losing and so happy about that. I've only been getting about 600 - 800 calories and have averaged about 1.5 pounds per week. They don't really come off 1.5 per week a lot of weeks it's zero or 1 - 2 pound gain and then 4 or 5 comes off in a week. I don't have any advice to make it feel better for you but I wanted you to know I certainly feel for your dilemma and hope you find a way to over come it. Since you are smaller I think it takes a long time for the restriction to get just right.