to that_prime_mom, How did that work out for you on the detailed info on the diet , I am too wondering . My primary care insurance will not cover any weight loss surgery. I have ChampVa for my secondary insurance. I have tried for several years to lose this weight and have no real luck. I would loose 10 pounds or so and then would stall. I did weight watchers all last year after the 1st time my doctor recommended me and well here I am back heavier than before. I didn't pay to go and did it all on my own. I also cant succeed on will power alone. I am also hoping not to be crushed again with another 6 months. also my doctor as noted anything i have tried. Thank you