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NUT = nutritionist

My surgeon said 3-4 weeks for wine, beer whenever it doesn't make me uncomfortable. Of course, all of the other nutrition guidelines apply as noted in other responses. I asked this question of my surgeon day ONE, as I have a wine cellar that is WAY too valuable to go to waste...

TWO MONTH pre-op diet? Your surgeon is a monster.

My surgery was 12/18. Today for lunch, I had 2.5 oz of cold smoked salmon, 1/2 an avocado, and a small spoonful of whipped cream cheese with chives. It was yummy. How about you?

I'm 4 weeks post-op, so my favorite recipes so far have all been for soft stuff. I loved the ricotta bake - Shelly's I think? It's all over the place, and it was great right after all liquids. In fact, I'd say that even for a future low carb italian dinner, I'd probably do it again - maybe with some chopped up onions and bell pepper this time. I also did some pinto beans in my instant pot - added some rotel and a few pig feet - that was super good, but no official recipe.

THIS. I was sitting in the mandatory pre-op nutrition class - my surgeon partners with a local hospital bariatric program to deliver them - LOVE my surgeon, but this group is awful. One of their post op recommendations: once you can start tolerating solid food and if you want to eat bread and rice, be absolutely SURE to stick to white rice and white bread - NOTHING with fiber - we want your digestive tract to be very 'calm' as you continue to heal. WTF? That's the WORST **** you can put in your body, and I don't believe for a second that your digestive tract needs to heal so much (especially at 4+ weeks) that you should avoid healthy, whole, unprocessed foods. I became a fat ass by making conscious choices to eat wrong - NOT because I'm a f**king moron that can't recognize what good foods are. Sorry for the rant, those people just made me mad.

Keep in mind that a exercise is a VERY small % of overall calorie burn for the day - as such, whatever you're doing with your diet is contributing to almost all of your weight loss. Feel good about yourself for that - it's a win! Check this out for some interesting tidbits on the impact of exercise on weight loss: https://www.vox.com/2018/1/3/16845438/exercise-weight-loss-myth-burn-calories

I'd suspect that almost all wls patients cheat in some way along the way, especially early in the process as you're learning to eat again, balancing your nutrients, etc. There's also a pretty high success rate for this surgery, so there's a clearly a way to balance some cheating with longer term success. I really feel sorry for the vets like Kate and Jess who (claim) to be perfect carbless eaters or whatever - as others have said, food is a joy, and the ultimate win is to get close to a goal weight but still have that nice tasting menu destination dinner with your significant other, or maybe have that slice of bday cake with your kid. Find a balance and love your life, and help others do the same. How miserable would it be to both constantly adhere to a super restrictive diet of no go foods - I guess we've seen that it makes some people so miserable they want to shame others to make themselves feel bitter, um I mean better...

This is exactly why diets like keto and atkins don't work in the long term - it's also why so many of us have (likely) been yo-yo-ing up and down in weight our whole lives. Most people just can't quit bad foods cold turkey. Kudos to those with changed gut bacteria or other chemical changes since surgery that can, but the VAST majority of us can't. What most people need here is empathy (as mentioned by creekimp) - encouragement that falling off the wagon for a meal or a day doesn't ruin anything - a helping hand to get back on track and keep up good work. As for the direction this whole thread took - first of all, the OP and original post mentioned pizza, and didn't say anything about puking it up. I don't know about you all, but I've specifically spoken at length to my surgeon about eating foods out of order or a bit ahead of schedule on the plan - his comment was, after 7-10 days, as long as you don't puke, nothing you put in your mouth (food wise, I'm sure he didn't mean nuts and bolts and ****) is going to tear/rip/create a leak in your staple line. Even if you puke, it's rare, but possible to create a leak. Based on that, I don't think anyone here should be jumping on people and claim it's a medical thing. I think all of us are scared that if we eat too much, eat the wrong thing, gain a pound one week, we're suddenly fucked and we've ruined our surgery. What we need is a community that supports people that post about stuff like this with encouraging words and helpful tips on how to get back on track. NOT pious posts like those from jess9395 and Kate. Seahawks dude should at least wait until he's post op to post opinions or criticisms, even then, see my comments on pious posts... Chill out, grow up, and be nice - try to legitimately help people. It really shouldn't be this hard.

Get at me if you want any advice on cooking sous vide...I can't imagine doing this post op diet without it - from lighter than air egg bites to the soft, buttery salmon...no mushy **** for me!

I think this is great, but I also think that you're in the minority for those of us that are fat or were fat. I think it's also interesting that some people who CAN avoid 'trigger' foods for life seem to assume that it's that way for everyone. This assumption leads to a lot of negativity on forums and FB pages (at least from what I've seen) I'm not criticizing you or trying to get contentious - it's just what I notice. I joined this FB page for sleeve/bypass people to (supposedly) share recipes and stuff like that. The lady that ran it (also conveniently had a web store to sell shakes and stuff on) was 10 years out (bypass) and still lived a <20 carb keto lifestyle, maintained a 200lb weight loss, etc. I think the admins were all friends of hers, too. Holy **** was that a sanctimonious crew - one would think that it was some kind of religion where anything with carbs was essentially satan himself. The admins and the people who wanted to be like the admins would totally jump on people's **** when they admitted to having a cookie, or even suggested substituting something in a shake or recipe - in one post, some lady got reamed for saying she put half a banana in her daily shake. I left the group after a couple of days. Point being - some things will change for some people, but the same thing won't change for all of the people. I think we should all take great care to qualify any advice we give on nutrition and eating here - make it very clear that what you're talking about works for you, maybe not the OP. Oh, and be nice and supportive too.

Last night, I did a 6 oz portion of salmon (Oro King, super f'ing awesome) cooked sous vide - the texture was soft, almost buttery - not flaky or firm. Anyhoo - I was going to do mashed cauliflower as a little side, but my riced cauliflower was super freezer burned. Last minute, I diced and boiled a very small potato, and made about 3 oz of mash with that. I made sure to eat mostly the salmon first - with a couple of small bites of the potato - I got all the salmon in pretty easily, but barely any of the potato. So, I guess 6-7 oz is my limit. More than others obvi, but 1/3-1/4 of what I would normally eat, even with the band.

Really? I've never heard of that, but I guess I haven't really looked into it. I just immediately started avoiding it and I was able to spend less time browsing insta in the bathroom...

Not sure on the pre-op, but my surgeon suggested Miralax for after. It works.

The Isopure Zero ones are ok - 40 grams of protein. Sucralose though - I had to stop drinking them, due to 'inconvenient' consequences.