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I definitely get that. I'm curious, what is the civilian equivalent to the guy that loads torpedos? Yes, my brothers were all fortunate to have salable talents when they got out. The two older ones have solid careers with major companies. The youngest, unfortunately, keeps getting side-tracked by drugs and alcohol. His employers (there have been many) seem to have a problem with employees getting drunk at lunch. Who knew?

lol yea your dad and i ended up in the same "boat" there

Yeah, he came home and was a sales rep for a big dairy. Don't see how torpedos fit into that one