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Weight loss is made in the kitchen. So why exercise? This ^^^^^

This is pretty brilliant. It's a podcast. And it's about leptin, mTOR, insulin, intermittent fasting and hedonic satisfaction. https://siimland.com/how-does-mtor-regulate-appetite-through-leptin/?fbclid=IwAR3HF92SX2jVLECqasVDvyNPc_lCPBC8jYrKtrJCyJP24do7282VJy37DN0

It's not WHAT you eat. It's what you DON'T EAT. Stop eating. LOL. Do intermittent fasting and go back to clean food. Dense lean protein Al dente veg Small amounts of healthy fat with each meal. Get your cals back in the range for losing. The End. It's the same prescription we were given right after we got to our regular food stage after surgery. Don't eat and drink at the same time...

Sorry you have this going on. Go back to full liquids for a few days. Sounds like esophageal irritation or a hernia, possibly an ulcer? I get it and it's just irritation.

Honestly. This is YOUR walk. You are having trouble, because you are unwilling to do the things you KNOW you must do in order to experience success. You KNOW what you have to do. You MUST go back to your doctor and RD. Get a new plan. Follow the plan. The losses will be much slower. And you have to comply with it daily. EVERY person I know who is long term successful in WLS still plans and logs their food, knows what macros it takes for them to lose and what macros it takes for them to maintain and knows which pattern of eating works to do both for them. They maintain a very tight window of maintenance.

BAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA! d**k pics! At last!!!! Hilarious!!!!

Ha! Good to know! See, I ran in here hoping for pics. Cuz in my mind, training tights should come with a set of wheels on each side of you so you don't/won't fall over! @Healthy_life2 HILARIOUS! You have the best funnies!!

This is red flag thinking in my honest opinion. You WILL be able to taste. As soon as you hit your regular food stage. I promise you WILL eat that pizza and test how badly it affects you. Everyone does. But every time you choose the "comfort" thing that is associated with an emotional tie, it makes it easier and easier and easier to do the next time and the next and the next. Pretty soon you are doing it every day and every meal and you are back in 6 months crying because you are stalled for 2 months with no losses or that you didn't make your doc's goal for 6 months of wl, or that you are gaining--or you're drinking too. It's emotional behaviors and ties to food that you simply MUST change while it's the easiest to do it. That's part of your honeymoon period. REFRAME to think: "I just hope I can get to the point where I don't want to taste here and there and prefer healthy foods--while making great choices as I am out living life." Another study just came out and "faking it until you make it" is actually a proven thing. If you don't feel this thought just keep saying it and acting like you do--until it's the truth.

Follow your surgeon's plan for sure. They are all different. I got decaff coffee the same day as my surgery as part of my clear liquids.

You have to do the head work--some how, some way. If you can't do/won't do individual counseling OA is a great org--and even if you do a therapist, OA works! But part of it is in "getting right with your own mind" and reframing the situation. I guarantee that there will come a time where you will be able to feel pleasure from food and that you will be able to eat more than you can currently. The bigger thing is how long can you get out of the surgery before you HAVE to start dealing with the resurgence of those feelings. Right? So reframe your reality. Instead of taking pleasure in "how much can I eat" then despairing that you no longer can eat much... Take extreme pleasure and think about "how LITTLE can I eat to satisfy my hunger." That way, you can be proud of hitting macro goals and cal goals and losing weight VERY quickly (which is hellah motivating). You can worry about the rest of your life later. Not today.

Protein shake in decaff coffee until you tire of it and you feel hunger return. Then decide/worry what to do about it. Going into your day with 30g of protein under your belt frees you up to make your protein goals from food the rest of the day.

You are 5'4". You have the same ideal weight as me. But it's gonna depend on your weight at surgery day. So you can't really figure it now. I'm pretty sure I did my math right and remember their goal for me. I set 150 as 1st goal, set 140 as 2nd goal, set 130 as 3rd goal--then I and only then will I reveal the top secret weight as an official goal. Haha on your mantra. Damn skippy. Outliers forever!

You should set your goal where YOU feel comfortable. Some want more weight on their frame. Some carry heavier frames. Some carry way more muscle. I thought I was "big boned" for all my life. Turns out, now that I see it, I'm just boringly average, so there's no reason why that calculation shouldn't apply to me. I am not a super athlete, don't have more bone mass than other 5'4" women, and am not super muscular by genetics. But you MIGHT be! You know? I personally? Think curves are a bit overrated and a bit of a cop-out rationalization. At least for me. I don't want to carry 15lbs more on my ass or in my boobs (impossible cuz I had a double mastectomy), or in my belly. I just don't want to do it anymore. My degenerative arthritic joints and back can't handle the load as I age! So why settle for anything more than my "normal bmi weight range" = smack in the middle of normal and congrats. It's also right at 120-125lbs. How odd, right? NOT! But I think most of us set a higher goal than we should. Most of us revise once we're there and see what we still look/feel like. (That's why I have 3 goals + a top secret goal.) But some don't. 1. Some cheat and love living life and are unwilling to give up there drug of choice: food, alcohol, drugs, etc. and so they settle for 25% above goal--going through the angst and pain of surgery to never realize their goal. 2. Still others are just flat dealt a bad hand from life: medications, illness, excess skin, mobility issues, mental health issues that prevents them from reaching goal--so they land where they can and God bless em. But in my opinion, if you are able to, we should all aim for as close to ideal weight as we are comfortable. Cuz I swear REGAIN will happen to most of us. And I only want to be here once. As a friend said, "I only want to do one-year-of-weightloss one time." I heartily agree. I don't mind dealing with 2-4lbs of loss...but not a year or 2 years worth of losses.

So you've heard the phrase: "Even a blind squirrel can find a nut every once in a while."? For me, that's kinda like WLS. If you are "reasonably" trying to follow your surgeon and RDs plan (with more than a few slips), you will quite likely wind up in the BMI + 25% category. But no guarantees. IMHO, the stats are true. That whatever they are (can't remember and can't be bothered to go get the exact figures from ASMBS), fit and give an accurate picture of the WLS population. But those figures are based on the average. And everything in life is a bell curve. Most (80%) fall under the large curve, and the other (20%) are considered outliers cuz they fall outside of the greater bell and into either ascending or descending asymptotes. And the ASMBS does not want people being over promised. And our surgeons don't want insurance to stop paying for surgeries. So they give us the stats based on averages. And that way they are making sure someone doesn't come back and say the surgery failed me. So they set up our expectations. My RD and surgeon both tried to do that...tried to make me understand I won't ever reach my ideal weight. But you also need to know that "ideal weight" is not defined by you or me. It is defined by an archaic insurance chart from the 60s or 70s that defines what the "ideal weight" based on a calculation. For women that calculation is 100lbs for the first 5 feet of height, and +5lbs for every inch over 5 feet. So for a 5'4" woman, the ideal weight is 120lbs. And that is what the BMI charts are based on. My cardiologist said I had not a snowballs chance in hell of hitting my ideal weight as defined by the charts. He was saying 120lbs is impractical for me. But never-the-less, that is my "IDEAL" weight. My surgeon's goal for me was 156lbs and it was based on this formula (my 1st goal for myself was 150lbs): Surgery Date Weight - Ideal Weight for 5'4" = EBW (excess body weight) 222lbs - 120lbs = 102lbs EBW EBW * 65% (average EBW loss due to RNY) = Goal Weight defined by Surgeon and RD/ASMBS 102lbs EBW * 65% = 66lbs of EWL (expected weight loss from RNY) = 156lb Goal. ************************* They don't want us being overly optimistic and perhaps failing and either getting depressed, or committing suicide for failiing WLS. You know? So they manage expectations. But they also told me, that the average doesn't mean that I can't apply concentrated focus and effort and do better than the average (in other words--become an outlier--and I am an outlier). I found it very depressing when my RD kept saying to quit losing. That I would only tax my body and make myself look drawn and old. My surgeon told me to stop at 140lbs. I just shook my head in agreement and am continue to do what I want. I will have to suffer the consequences if I go too low and get sick from it. (But at 125lbs I'm only smack in the very center of my "normal BMI range." **************************** Also, ASMBS defines success in WLS at 5 years as having maintained up to 50% of the original weight lost through the expected weight loss percent. Pretty dismal statistics right? That means, if the surgery is ONLY A TOOL (as we are told), then we can't afford NOT to treat this as a golden shot to re-write our life with new rules for the food relationships that got us morbidly obese in the first place. I truly do not believe that "everything in moderation" is gonna cut it--no matter WHO you are or where you fall in the bell curve.

Yep. Avoid the grains. Go for yogurt, kefir, ricotta cheese/ricotta cheese bake, soft scrambled eggs (emphasis on soft), custard, protein puddings...and only progress slowly slowly.

Congrats! You look fabulous!!

Get well soon! That's the most important!

1 cup is too much volume for you at this point. You need to follow your surgeon's guidelines. And most people who are losing steadily and successfully are tracking in a program or app. Seriously. Comforty casseroles allow you to eat more with higher calories and with less satiety. They tend to slide right through. And while they do it, they have woken up your palette to a "more-ish" one. And you can't out exercise a poor diet. Unless you are doing super heavy workouts, no need to "feed back" some of the calories. I walk/jog 3mph for 1 30 minutes, 2x per day and don't eat back any of my calories.

IMHO, docs (surgeons) and RDs don't always level with us as pre-op patients. They do this not due to malicious intent, but because everyone is so unique. So is their journey. We each have to hack our own body to understand what we have to do to be successful in this journey. The things that helped me: 1. Don't overeat. Just. Don't. Do. It. - It's not worth it. Follow your surgeon's and RD's instructions for food VOLUME at each stage of your diet progression. This is important cuz VOLUME is king! It really is. I go so far as to place a 1cup measuring cup on my food scale and measure my cubed or ground protein into the cup. The room that's left gets filled with al dente veggies. When that food in the cup is gone, there are NO seconds. The meal is over. You stop if you are full or the hunger is gone--even if you still have some of your 1cup left. Put it away immediately. Give yourself a 20 minute limit for eating using small utensils and concentrating on chewing each bite fully and completely. Put your spoon or fork down between meals. NO SLIDER FOODS/MEALS. 2. Don't drink and eat. Evs. Try to hold out 1 hour or 2hours after a meal. It will help keep food in your tool longer. 3. Focus on separate foods: dry grilled lean means, dry al dente veggies with lots of fiber, 1tsp of healthy fats per meal OR 1oz of avocado OR 1/2oz of nuts OR 1tbsp nut butter. No meat lube! (no gravy, sauce, dressings on your meat) 4. No snacking between meals unless you aren't meeting your protein goals in 3 meals. If you need to, plan "scheduled" mini meals between your 3 meals. 5. Eat plainly. Simple. Fresh. Try to go for "low reward foods" without a lot of "comfort" involved. 6. Avoid sugars and simple carbs. Avoid fruit while you're in the big part of your losing mode. Avoid artificial sweeteners. 7. Eliminate grains and carby stuff until you know if it helps reduce hunger and helps you lose weight. 8. Weigh, measure, log everything in MFP or your food diary. Eat ONLY to your macros. Know you macro goals for the day. 9. Weigh daily. 10. Get 100+ oz of water in per day if possible.

Keep this post going with your experiments. You'll soon start to see patterns. And I think the "rule of small numbers" helps keep us moving in the right direction without having a dramatic gasping right or wrong at the end of the move. If it's positive, yay! If it's negative, then it's easily reversible. Right? Your moves sound like they are great decisions!!! (Oh and those days of easily eating an extra burger or turning a blind eye to eating an entire bowl of chips and salsa!)

Aw man! So sorry to hear about the dumping -- but I'm so excited Boo is still on Fantasy Island after having witnessed it. You might have been tempted to take him out so there'd be no witnesses! ((hugs)) Damn on the watermelon though. That's a tragedy. And if you AND @sillykitty prove the advice of "when stalled, eat more," I'm gonna have to stab my eyes out with a dull toothpick. Cuz that would suck so bad that it doesn't work round heah. #fuckme But on a brighter note, I'm so happy you are back at 155 after a round of super eating at Olive Garden!!! Wahhhhooooo. Did you eat massive amounts? Or only a little bit?