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This is such a marvelous post and success strategy!!!! Gosh I you! Hey would you come post this over on the Doing the Headwork thread. It's such actionable advice!!!! TY in advance hon!

Gosh fighting hunger is miserable. ((hugs)) And you're right on track. About this time, many of us found that our hunger and capacity really "matured" even more than it did for some of us early on--around the 3 month or so mark. Dr. Weiner talks about this phenomenon, and it's an expected outcome--even a desired one. That's why the first few months of the honeymoon are so important. If you spend those months in the belief that you don't have to begin liking new lean healthy foods and can continue your attachment to high cal/high carb/high fat comforty type of foods--just eat less of them...it's a terrible terrible awakening. And hunger will still your joy and regain does happen! Others who have check-stops in place--do wonderfully well in the old diets in moderation. Just see @sillykitty's phenomenal success!! But these people absolutely adopt different methods to controlling their energy input and exercise/activity level with great success. As @GreenTealael mentioned, it's hard to gain weight eating a ton-o-the-leafy-greens and add to that raw veg like cucumber, radish, baby carrots, celery, red bell pepper, green bell pepper, broccoli, cauliflower, zucchini, yellow squash. Any raw veggie sans calorie dense fattening dressing work great to fill up the real estate in your hungry tummy. The chewing alone helps your gut brain access reconnect. Also adding lean protein to it such as tuna, sardines, wild salmon, grilled chicken will fill you without filling you out. Honestly, the biggest tool as Tea mentioned is IF for me. I do 16:8 or 18:6 daily. I still readily and easily hit my protein goal for the day from all sources (lean meat/seafood proteins + veggies + VERY limited nuts/dairy + egg whites/eggs) on 2 meals + a small snack. I'm still trying to lose my last pounds so I'm still keeping cals around the 600-850 mark and getting plenty of food but the IF really helps defuse and teach me about the relationship with food and how it affects my hunger. There are liquids that also help with hunger: 1. Green tea and matcha (hot or cold, either extreme works really well for diffusing hunger) 2. 100+ ounces of sugarless liquid. 3. Hot or iced decaff coffee (swiss water method) Things to drop to help curb hunger: 1. Any snacky foods (crackers, chips, salty/crunchy dippy stuff) 2. Any pasta, rice, potatoes, grains, winter squashes, tubers, high value calorie and carb dense foods 3. Any composit calorie dense foods (cheesy casseroles, gooey ethnic cuisines, pizza, lasagna, pot pies, stews) 4. Any wet proteins (things with meat lube like Salsbury steak, Swiss steak, smothered chicken/steak, stroganoff) 5. Any cheesy gooey veggie casseroles that are calorie dense (cauli mac and cheese, cheesy broccoli souffle, creamed spinach, etc) 6. Nuts and nut butters (so easy to over eat and eat preferentially for convenience. 7. Any bars, shakes, otherwise known as diet candy 8. Drop ALL forms of sugar and artificial sweeteners. Go back to basics of your forever post surgery diet: 1. Protein first (2-4oz per meal) 2. No eating/drinking 30/30 at least or 15:60 3. 1 cup food max per meal 4. Meal comp is: lean protein + al dente veggies + 1tsp healthy fats or 1oz avocado or 1/3oz nuts or 1/2oz cheese If there is room left, fill it up with salad. DO this for 2 weeks. See if it starts weight loss again and eases hunger/cravings. Once you are stable, then you can add foods 1 at a time every few days to see which ones trigger your hunger. You WILL be able to tell. Good luck!

Show of hands, how many of us did this before surgery? Do you see that you've changed post surgery? If so, to what (or whom) do you attribute the change and when did you first start noticing doing things differently? Also, HOW did you change this thinking?

Awesome inspired and helpful post!!! Hats off to all posters here for their great responses!!!

This is an awesome post!! I'd read that too about the gene sequencing! That is gonna forever after be my argument for why WLS. It isn't about restriction. It's about the hormonal reset. Cracking up over "The Matrix!!" You won the internet.

Hahahaha! IKR!? She had me at hello!

Yay!!!! Congrats! And it won't be long before you ARE at 140lbs...(if that's where you want to be.)

You're a rock star girlie!!! Woot!!!

Nope. The surgery is a tool and is on your tummy. The head hunger is a real issue and struggle for many of us. It's important to do the head work. There is a thread in the General Forum about just this subject. It's not magic bean surgery. To me, the head hunger is more of a challenge to contend with and change lifelong behaviors than is the actual true hunger.

Ohhh! LOL. Totally missed your kg! I saw that you were 140 on your ticker and immediately thought 140lbs. TY for sharing that! Huge props and congrats on your major accomplishments btw!!

God I wish you would quit scaring people. You are SUCH AN OUTLIER, you're in a different universe. I've ignored and ignored your posts. But YOU are not the reality. Period. I'm sorry your life is so tragic. But you are not an expected outcome. You are one of the .01%.

Sleep is so important doll. Not just for weight loss, but for health...I'm learning so much about how important it is. Right now, am listening to a neuro scientist talk about how sleep is the single biggest determinant to health and to a healthy dementia-free life.

Yay! Welcome and glad you're here and beginning to develop a "forever" plan!!! Wooohooo. I swear by logging, but others do not feel a similar need. That's ok! If it helps you, then that's a keeper tool for you! Be sure to browse each page cuz there are awesome vids attached to many of them, and very deep info givin' by many pros in our group! We are all happily either losing or maintaining with IF and our own disciplined plans! How tall are you? I see your goal is 110. That should make you around 5'1" perhaps?

You should really stop not. Get more nutrition if you need it at another less volatile time of the day. Try to stop the eating 3-4 hours before bed. You'll thank yourself later.

Powerful stuff. Dang am I learning new things...

Ok, it's been a minute. Want to learn some brainiac stuff? LOL. How bout a little Siim with your autophagy?

Mazels!

Thank you for your honesty. I'm so glad you are working on your head stuff and learning to love yourself!!! I hope we can all be this transparent with ourselves and others--then maybe so many would not feel alone!

Oh great job on mitigating damage in advance!!!! Wooot!!! And great point about this being a party party weekend with mas food and mas beverages! *gasping at the thought* So I'm fasting this week in preparation for the weekend! And each day we have a party: Fri-Mon. *sigh* So my game plan is to make the healthiest choices in each of those party situations, heavily rely on ice tea rather than adult bevs, and keep the snacking to a bare minimum. I will eat sparingly around each party of very lo low foods--mainly low cal veg and lean dense protein like tuna, sardines, herring, grilled chick/turkey breast. So that the overall damage for each day is contained.

I'm right there with you. I think my honeymoon was over at around the 7-8month mark, BUT my hunger awoke again about 2-3months out and I was exquisitely aware that I had little resistance from day one. I knew I had a larger anatomy from the beginning. And so I started before surgery practicing all those things in the article. LOL. So I wouldn't be that one person who failed weight loss surgery. For me, RNY has been a "safety net" like a back-up measure for all the hard work I've put in to change my foods, change my portions, change WHEN, WHAT, HOW, and WHY I eat...even the WHERE I eat. I don't think I've had one free ride. And I've still had a crap ton of stalls along the way and slower weight loss. But meh...I'm so close to Goal #3 I can feel it!

Dense is important. I coincidentally read two different things yesterday posted by bariatric authorities who discussed the importance of re-introducing solid foods to your new anatomy. Not only does it help with satiety but it's kinda like...if you don't use it, you lose it. And you need to have the solid food to maintain a well-working digestive system. So get those solids in. It's all about choices. Choose your hard, dear.

Wow! Where can I find these?

My heart grew 3 sizes! Note to self: adopt a more DGAF attitude. Yeah...saggy tummies...a WHOLE 'nother thread. hahaha Isn't it so weird how we are so hard on ourselves? ((hugs)) Those suit designs are all SO flattering. I bet your figure looks darling.