HeatherS.

Not really appropriate on a gay thread, dude. Unless you're not a dude.

It's not really a "fact" even if it is fun, though, and even if exercise is a very good idea (I'm pro-exercise, really!). Granted, you probably won't keep it ALL off without changing your lifestyle to involve more physical activity, but you will probably keep the large majority of it off. . Studies DO agree that exercise is necessary to keep weight off in non-surgical weight loss and to avoid regaining everything. It also results in about 4kg extra weight loss over sedentary in post-bariatric surgery weight loss. (Pub Med PMID 22038571) . A study this year also found that exercise intervention in sedentary post-op bariatric patients between 12-24 months post-op resulted in a 5.6kg difference in weight between sedentary control and an intervention group who did 60 min of relatively low intensity aerobic workout and resistance exercises 3x/wk for 12 weeks. (Break it down, and that's far from cross-fit, or the amount OP's psych is talking about. (Pub med 28262676) In most of the studies I looked at, the mean regain we're talking about is around 5-15%. It's not ideal, but it's also not a return to pre-surgery days. . In fact, studies are showing that diet QUALITY along with post-op time are the most (some studies: ONLY) correlated with weight regain after the honeymoon stage following surgery. (27544005) . Interestingly, there's a high correlation between having plastic surgery and keeping the weight off, too. (PMID 24076675) . What is a fact is that exercise helps you lose a bit more, makes it easier to keep all of the weight off, and, most importantly, improves your cardiovascular health and helps you overcome the "obesity paradox" where your likelihood of surviving a heart attack DEcreases with weight loss. . Hopefully the extra info helps clear things up. It really comes down to: eat nutritiously, take your vitamins, don't spend all day inactive, and remember to avoid the kind of eating that got you to the point of surgery in the first place.

@Sherrie Scharbrough Whew, that's a catalogue of medicines I'm relieved to have avoided! But you're so right about the catch-22 of exercise and fibro. It's one of the top reasons I had this surgery. . I'm struggling to get to the point where exercise doesn't knock me out for the next day now.

You noticed that, huh?

That's the thing I'm getting at in a roundabout way. Not all of us got here by eating the WRONG things. I got here by always being hungry and (simplified) eating nutritiously but too much. The surgery stopped that the moment I woke up. . There are assumptions being made that we all got here one way and that doesn't help very much. . All OP even asked was IF anyone had had those foods after surgery and what their experience was. For all we know, they're thinking about a trip planned back home in August and reminiscing about the local ice cream parlor. We just don't know. Anything other than "yeah I have/no I haven't, and here's what happened" involves assumptions we're not qualified to make. . I do understand where you're coming from about some people self-sabotaging either willingly or through ignorance, but I don't think public shaming is the way to fix that. If public shaming worked, none of us would have needed to resort to surgery.

It's been my experience that people who begin with "I'm sorry, but -" or similar aren't sorry at all. . What is a problem food for one may not be a problem food for others, so I choose to answer the question asked without making further assumptions as there are more reasons to consume various forms of frozen dairy than the presumed (condescending, insulting) desire to pig out on sweets, which I assume is not OP's intent, having just gone through a major operation to restrict caloric intakes in order to reclaim health. . We don't know why OP asked the question. And we don't know if they're thinking of Haagen Daaz or low fat sugar free fro-yo (which is actually good for many of our meal plans) or even Eggface's high protein ice cream which looks like a valid alternative to shakes. (A very attractive alternative if they, like me, are prone to sore throats in the spring due to allergies) . But we can assume all of us here know that diving into a pint of Ben & Jerry's is both destructive and counter productive.

For goodness sakes. Please ignore the overly righteous rude replies you're getting. It's a thing whenever someone mentions food that doesn't fit a strict plan. My my doctor took the view that this is for life, and life requires some flexibility. He then encouraged me to enjoy my birthday cake that would be coming up after surgery. . The OCCASIONAL treat, given how small it will necessarily be, is probably ok for many of us. Only you know what other issues you have (diabetes, for example, makes some foods highly inadvisable, for instance). . That said, I have had, since surgery, about 50 calories worth of a truly delicious locally made sorbet without incident, a 20 calorie bite of my wife's ice cream sandwich (apparently it tastes like cheese to me now. Ew), a small scoop of lactaid ice cream when I was having trouble getting and keeping anything at all down, and have tried live active culture frozen yogurt (which comes sugar free, low fat, etc) with no complaints from my stomach. Does it sound like a lot? It's not. But then, I have no insulin-related disorders and each portion has been very small and fit within my own plan. . My calories have been on the low end of the range where they need to be, and my nutrition looks good so far. So everyone on my team is fine with that. . My main point is that you and your team know your nutritional and medical situation way better than strangers on the internet. My secondary point is that yes, yes, I have tried other iced things since surgery with no adverse effects on my sleeve or weight loss. My tertiary point is that you need to find a way to eat WITH your sleeve that you can stick to and maintain a healthy weight with for the rest of your life.

So they froth as much in a shaker cup? I've been having a tough time with the froth, too.

I'm struggling with it. Unlike others, I can taste the Unjury strongly through almost anything. I'm going to try making some loaded mashed potatoes tonight with aged cheddar and spices and see if that does the trick.

Any of my ASD fam still hanging around the board? I'm about three weeks post-op, and aside from hypersensitivity to texture and chemical tastes getting in the way of protein shakes, Autism appears to be a plus. It's been a bigger relief than I expected to not care one way or another whether I eat (whereas before the VSG op, if I was even slightly hungry, I couldn't concentrate on anything). My focus is SO much better. Has anyone else experienced that?

I have fibro, not CFS, but my fibro manifests with crazy exhaustion during flares. I've been sleeping far more than most VSGers since my op (Mar 27, 2017), and I slept entirely through Wednesday after being out all day on Tuesday. HOWEVER, it's been getting less day by day, and the pain that accompanies flares has been significantly less than pre-surgery. I think we, on this illness spectrum, can expect we might not be as active right out of the gate, but the surgery should, hopefully, get us to a place where we can reap the benefits of exercise all our rheumatologists keep telling us about long-term. That said, if you're taking time off from work to recover, you might want to consider doubling the usual time off standard to allow your body more time to find the new equilibrium.

I was diagnosed formally with fibro in January 2016 after the symptoms I'd been living with for years got way worse following a major injury. I don't take the same medicine as you, but I haven't had problems with any of my meds since about 10 days post-surgery. (Took forever to get them all down the first week and a half!) What I DID have was a big flare following the surgery. The pain wasn't unbearable, but the exhaustion and weakness really hit whenever I over-do activities. I missed Wednesday of this week entirely due to falling exhausted into bed after a busy Tuesday only to wake up Thursday morning. I attribute that to the additional strain on my body from healing. The GOOD news so far is that the flare has been causing significantly less pain than pre-surgery flares. Hopefully that's a Thing and not a coincidence.