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I agree that some of us have the excess hormone problem and insulin is the problem. Some researchers have theorized that those of us with the thrifty gene are the ones more likely to suffer with metabolic syndrome. Anything we can do to reduce insulin levels will go a long way to helping us normalize our weight. There are different ways of achieving this and WLS is one of them. Another interesting thing I have just learned is how some doctors believe that intermittent fasting mimics the feast and fast cycle and this may be one of the reasons this style of eating works for many people. It works with the natural tendencies of their metabolism. Very interesting stuff.

That special sounds very interesting. Do you know the name of it? I wonder if it is possible to view it online? Thank you for posting about it.

LOL, the first thought that popped in my head when I saw that photo is does the ball make loud noises if you pass gas??

That looks interesting. I have never seen anything like it. I'm gonna go check it out now. Thank you

Somehow I missed this post. Thank you @Newme17 for posting those exercises. I really should be working on my core some now.

More research obviously needs to be done on this type of diet modification, but the early results definitely look promising. My interest lies in the health benefits more than anything else. I also like what Dr. Fung says in the book about learning your hunger signals better when you fast for longer periods. I see my endocrinologist next month for a check up and I can't wait to see where my A1C level is at. I am prepared to make any modifications that are necessary to my diet and exercise to keep my A1C at non-diabetic levels without medication. I have had great BG readings for the most part, but I am not checking 24/7 so I could be missing some spikes and be unaware. IF could be another tool to help keep insulin and bg in check.

I am learning everyday and I still enjoy it. I tend to read everything I can find on a subject that interests me. That is just my personality. I read opposing views just as much and I always consider the source. Thanks for your comment.

I just spent a few minutes reading through several peer reviewed articles on the subject of IF. There are so many more available. I would encourage anyone interested in learning more to read through some and also check into doctors that are using this protocol. Their evidence from using this with their patients is also very useful in considering whether this may be something useful or appropriate for you to try. Here are the links to some of the journal articles: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/315875923_The_effect_of_meal_frequency_in_a_reduced-energy_regimen_on_the_gastrointestinal_and_appetite_hormones_in_patients_with_type_2_diabetes_A_randomised_crossover_study https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312479942_Effects_of_intermittent_fasting_on_glucose_and_lipid_metabolism https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312038251_Is_intermittent_fasting_a_scientifically-based_dietary_method https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309132377_Effects_of_eight_weeks_of_time-restricted_feeding_168_on_basal_metabolism_maximal_strength_body_composition_inflammation_and_cardiovascular_risk_factors_in_resistance-trained_males

When did I ever proclaim myself as an expert on IF? Read my first post and you will see I was asking for personal experiences from veterans. Obviously I was doing some things wrong and coupled with my bad thyroid gained weight. What is your point? Who did I ever say was healthier? I said as humans we have always fasted, so it is a built in function in our bodies to endure periods of time where we don’t eat. That’s all i said.

I will? So you know me now after just reading a few posts on the internet? Questioning my doctor does not make me a controlling person, it makes me a person who doesn’t just take what anyone tells me to be the truth, even a doctor. Questioning things is a trait I have always found useful, you obviously don’t agree as you are frustrated that I just won’t accept what you have said as fact and truth. The truth is you have not posted even one peer reviewed publication supporting your belief that IF is bad and just another fad diet with no health benefits at all. I want to read the data you speak of. Yes, I am only 5 months out, but I have reached my goal of a healthy BMI and weight. I actually feel my success comes from following the advice of other veterans here that shared freely. I often do take the advice of others if I feel it is good advice and will be of benefit. I have adopted a sustainable and healthy eating plan and also regularly exercise 5-6 days a week both recommended by successful veterans. please don’t keep posting mean responses. If you aren’t going to post links to your data please stop posting. You aren’t contributing anything of value to the thread.

Yes that link takes you to Dr. Fungs program for reversing type 2 diabetes using IF. He has had a lot of success with his patients. thanks for posting it.😊

I agree completely. This is a discussion. I met my official goal weight also so I must have done something right. I am researching techniques for use now and in the future as needed during maintenance. Some type 2 diabetics see a return of higher blood sugars after a period of time and I want to be prepared with methods to deal with this.

Crusade??? 😮 wow! You didn’t claim to be a nutritionist, but you did let it be known that we should not question someone with your credentials. I question my doctor all the time. He is not GOD and I have been given plenty of bad advice from doctors. My point being is that no one needs a fancy degree to be intelligent enough to research a subject. I would argue that @Berry78 is the queen of research and I have no idea what she does for a living.

Good to know. I just never imagine eating that much,, lol... I am so full eating 1000-1300.

What medical data have you posted? What Study? I like to read all I can about something before I try it. I sure hope this thread leads other to research this for themselves and not take my word for it. You seem convinced we are all just following some fad diet and you ignore the data I did post. I like debating and I don’t understand why you are getting so upset about it. @FluffyChix and @Berry78 debate with me all the time. I like it. You don’t have to be right or wrong. You just have a different opinion.

This is like throwing out the bath with the bath water just because it gets cold. Sure some things our ancestors did would not be smart to continue (running around naked, is one..lol), however to say that we cannot learn important things from them and shouldn't incorporate them into our lifestyle where appropriate and beneficial is short sighted. IMHO

Yep that’s it in a nut shell. And there is more than one way to fix it. Different strategies work for different people.

Just an FYI, it is the liver dumping stored glycogen that causes dawn phenomenon. That is if we are talking about the same thing.

I experienced dawn phenomenon the first year I was diagnosed with type 2 so I am very familiar with it. My liver would dump anytime I had not eaten for more then 4 hours. For me this was solved by getting my liver to release its stored glycogen. This can be done by eating very low carb for a period of time and exercise. Oddly enough it is also one of the benefits of IF. I was not aware of this type of eating method at that time or I would have tried it for sure.

I don’t really understand why instituting a slightly longer fasting period would be so negative and why some would resist the idea so strongly. If you eat your dinner st 6:00 pm and don’t snack, then sleep in till 9:00 am and eat around 10:00am you have fasted for 16 hours without even thinking about it. I would argue that many people who don’t snack after dinner are practicing IF without actually planning to. Is it bad simply because a person makes a conscious decision to do it? This is a real question.

It has been proven that calories in does not always equal calories out. People with metabolic syndrome do not process calories in this way. It is not that simple. I do not put my faith in fake science or fad diets. I research everything I do very throughly. It is fine to disagree. Debate is what keeps us thinking and searching out the facts.

I don’t ever see myself consuming 2500 calories in a day. That may be what the typical American person on the western diet eats, but that is not healthy. I see your point though.

For @Waler. Here are a few studies on the benefits of IF. Mattson has contributed to several other studies on intermittent fasting and caloric restriction. In one, overweight adults with moderate asthma consumed only 20% of their normal calorie intake on alternate days (Free Radical Bio Med 2007;42:665–74). Participants who adhered to the diet lost 8% of their initial body weight over eight weeks. They also saw a decrease in markers of oxidative stress and inflammation, and improvement of asthma-related symptoms and several quality-of-life indicators. In another study, Mattson and colleagues explored the effects of intermittent and continuous energy restriction on weight loss and various biomarkers (for conditions including breast cancer, diabetes and cardiovascular disease) among young overweight woman (Int J Obesity 2011;35:714–27). They found that intermittent restriction was as effective as continuous restriction for improving weight loss, insulin sensitivity and other health biomarkers. Just go to pubmed and search on the subject. There are a ton of studies that have been published. I am working my way through the ones I have access to.

I did not mean to offend you. You said you were a lab tech not that you had multiple degrees in Genetics and anatomy and physiology. What was your major? I have degrees also. but that doesn't really mean anything, I can still be wrong about a subject I have knowledge in. My degree is entomology and wildlife conservation, but I don't claim to know everything there is to know about insects, far from from it. I am doing research on this subject through books and yes the internet. I am looking for articles that are backed up by science. There is a lot of evidence that intermittent fasting does have good benefits and this is without restricting calories any further,