BigUtahMan

After 2 months of strict adherence to the plan along with a rigorous workout schedule 6 days a week. (Self -imposed) I learned from my trainer/NUT that I am working-out too hard and not eating enough! Who knew?? This news has brought mixed emotions... Not upset as my body composition has improved, and I have gotten much stronger and fit, but I have taken myself out of the weight loss cycle in the process. It is also unsettling that in my zest for success, I have frustrated the process instead of improved it. At the DR office, I also had my BMR measured, (2400 Calories resting). Then add 1,000 more a day for my daily exercise regiment (tracked by heart monitor) and another 500-1000 for normal daily activity over the other waking hours of my day, and I am about a typical BMR of 3500- 4500 calories a day! I averaged about 1500 - 1800 calories a day of food 120 protein, >75 carbs, etc... My NUT said the ideal caloric intake is to be within 500 calories of your BMR to loose the most weight. So rather than eat 4000 calories a day, I need to burn less calories and eat nearly the same. I trust their advice is good as it is coming from the Dr office, and I am excited to find out. My only recommendation is if you are doing everything perfectly for over a month and still stalling, you might want to check in with the DR or NUT to make sure you are still in the appropriate balance with the plan according to your specific body, BMR, etc... My new exercise plan I only do 20 min cardio, and lift weights only 3 days a week (not 6). What is weird, instead of being happy I can do less, I am more fearful. But I decided to commit to the professional's advice and not my wisdom and then see what happens. I am excited to see the scale move again for about 10-20 lbs in a row. Wish me luck!

Lots of theories, but my team wants me to work out 4-5 times a week, 20 min high intensity cardio and 20-30 light lifting. The idea is to increase metabolism. I think the biggest keys are to do what you want while maintaining balance. Becoming addicted to the workout isn't really healthy or sustainable for most.

I have been in Ketosis for several weeks by keeping my net carbs under 30 grams a day. Seems to work well by eliminating hunger from my day to day life. Just curious how many others are doing Keto as well? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Same, keto has it merits to brake the carb cravings, but diminished returns after that.

I find it ironic in this thread how I see the same attitude towards intuitive eating, as many people express who are opposed to bariatric surgery. ..!!!! So I guess maybe all our friends and families were right who were against us having surgery. (Never mind the success we are experiencing from surgery, because it doesn't fit in their world or belief system. Maybe we should ignore our results until they are ready to accept them.) Or we can continue to search for truth and apply it appropriately when it is discovered. For those of you who are no longer broken with your relationship with food, this post doesn't apply to you. For those of us who need to develop more life skills in relationship to their food, this might help. Creating extreme examples of failure is like posting every person who failed after surgery and then claiming, "surgery is not the answer", knowing many people succeed as well. We all quickly learn and say surgery doesn't fix the brain, but if you DARE RECOMMEND SOMETHING THAT MIGHT, this forum has no room for that. All your examples exemplify people with dysfunctional relationship with food and their bodies. While we all have that common past to one degree or another, I hope to have a different common future.

The point isn't to ignorantly assume everyone is ready for intuitive eating, or the transformation is an easy one to make for anyone with food issues. But to me, it provides hope that people with my same issues have found a path to get to a more complete and healthy relationship with food beyond what surgery provides. No one is asking anyone to stop what they are doing if it is working, but many people cannot sustain the "eternal diet" mentality for several years post op, and still enjoy life or success. (I also recognize. others can and do find freedom in it.) So I celebrate any approach that success and happiness can be reached for those who seek it.

Wow- Surprised someone with 8000 posts who is a "bariatric legend" would be so forthcoming with personal attacking and questioning one's integrity? Is that ok if they don't match your own philosophy or personal plan? For your information, many therapists use intuitive eating for all types of eating disorders including compulsive eating and food addictions. While it may be easy for you to make ignorant claims of "unethical," it only represents your own limited knowledge about the subject than actual truth. (Are you a therapist? Have you read the book?) I don't mind people countering with facts, but personal insults and actual mistruths don't benefit anyone. Are you claiming she didn't lose the weight? Are you claiming, she isn't enjoying a new relationship with food and that others can't enjoy it either? Why is this approach to food such a threat to you or your psyche? I appreciate we all fear failure and returning to our unhealthy selves that needed surgery to become healthy, but I hope we can support each other in their processes rather than insult and make even more difficult to accomplish our collective goals in our individual journeys. I don't know you, and I assume you are a great person, but I hope we can all share our experiences, successes, and failures without being personally attacked for sharing.

I am surprised reading the many comments in direct conflict with this post. It is my experience it is what we should all be working towards. Eating "what your want, when you want" does not mean binge without consequence, rather it means listening to your body and trust it to tell you what you need or want when and how much. Our bodies have amazing and complex feedback loops, but all of us spent years ignoring them and eating for emotional reasons, not physical ones. Relearning to listen and to trust your feedback loops is the ideal state of being. A constant diet mentality with or without surgery is not healthy or ideal, and statistically speaking won't work. I also realize learning to listen to your feedback loops and not your emotions is a difficult transition that should not be attempted when in the weight loss phase, but to maintain that phase I think it is essential.

I am surprised reading the many comments in direct conflict with this post. It is my experience it is what we should all be working towards. Eating "what your want, when you want" does not mean binge without consequence, rather it means listening to your body and trust it to tell you what you need or want when and how much. Our bodies have amazing and complex feedback loops, but all of us spent years ignoring them and eating for emotional reasons, not physical ones. Relearning to listen and to trust your feedback loops is the ideal state of being. A constant diet mentality with or without surgery is not healthy or ideal, and statistically speaking won't work. I also realize learning to listen to your feedback loops and not your emotions is a difficult transition that should not be attempted when in the weight loss phase, but to maintain that phase I think it is essential.

I am surprised reading the many comments in direct conflict with this post. It is my experience it is what we should all be working towards. Eating "what your want, when you want" does not mean binge without consequence, rather it means listening to your body and trust it to tell you what you need or want when and how much. Our bodies have amazing and complex feedback loops, but all of us spent years ignoring them and eating for emotional reasons, not physical ones. Relearning to listen and to trust your feedback loops is the ideal state of being. A constant diet mentality with or without surgery is not healthy or ideal, and statistically speaking won't work. I also realize learning to listen to your feedback loops and not your emotions is a difficult transition that should not be attempted when in the weight loss phase, but to maintain that phase I think it is essential.

I celebrate your success! Keep it up.

Great work!

Water weight, your "bad days" are still ok, but your body will adjust. Don't beat yourself up, allow yourself to live a little on your path. I agree with the others too

I went from a 54 inch waste to a 38, that means shopping at normal stores with normal sizes! This is me last week on the plane, I got so excited as I "got to" tighten my seat belt. I was so excited I kept it tight the entire flight.

So apparently- 1) Someone tragically died in Mexico. (Sources provided info, confirmed by another patient) 2) How or why? After many posts by the company owner, still unknown, but the company is pretending nothing happened. (Star witness dead.) 3) A 14-year-old daughter may or may not have been there, may or may not have been stranded in Mexico. Whether an exception was made by the company, or they the patient simply lied and broke the rules, the witness was unaware of the companion, or the deceased person had no companion, it is still unclear from the posts. But all of us, hope her family including the 14-year old is home safe and finding peace in their time of loss. (Sandy also never mentioned regret or gave any sympathies to obviously mourning family. Although she can't, as she still hasn't admitted to the death of a patient which prevents her from being human and sorry. I would have hoped the hospital/Dr would have paid and even accompanied the child back to her home with as little additional trauma as possible. If there was a child left stranded MX regardless of the reasons for the death, and they did not make every effort to get her home, shame on that entire organization for not being human, at a time when being human is job #1. It shouldn't take a government agency MX/US to do the right thing.) I can appreciate a stranded minor being out of the country can complicate things quite quickly and easily. Which also likely means, there was also likely involvement with the both US and MX consulates. (Assuming one would be involved and not the other is a stupid argument Sandy attempts to make, as they both have reason to be involved or at least aware of a situation of this magnitude. Or maybe deaths are so common with Sandy's group she is extremely aware of the exact procedure and which Government organizations get involved and which don't? Who knows...) First off, while I respect the privacy of the family, this is nothing less than tragic for them, and I hope they find peace with God in this difficult time of their life. We all knew that this result could have happened to any of us, that doesn't diminish the significance when one of us becomes a part of that horrible statistic. Secondly, the apparent denial and attempted cover-up only beg the question of medical negligence as a motive to deflect and attack anyone asking or seeking the truth. If their #1 doctor was actually #1, then this wouldn't be as big of a deal. I have no fears about Medical Tourism, but I do have fears about trusting and supporting bad doctors and bad businesses anywhere and everywhere. Sandy, you have communicated all I need to know about your business, business practices and the reputation of the doctors associated with it. I hope anyone considering your group for medical procedures reads this thread first.

Good idea, thanks for sharing. - B

I believe that is what has happened to me the last 8 weeks, I have changed body composition while losing Fat, but I don't believe I realized dramatic fat loss though even though I have good muscle gains. (I have to keep telling myself, this is not the time to bulk up on the muscle, I need to trim and slim. (I do have a better BMR engine with the fit muscle gain to burn the calories, so I am still pleased with my results in many ways. But I am trying to stretch my honeymoon phase another couple months and get down another 25-30 pounds in the "power window" of weightloss before it gets hard again to lose.

I breathed into a machine (fasting) for about 20 min at the Dr's office, and the machine measures CO2 levels and others aspects of my breath. I did it before at the University of Utah with similar results.

Forgiveness isn't about them, as much as it about us. When I forgive, I take the burden I was carrying off my shoulders, and free myself of continued victimization. It isn't about the other person feeling bad, caring. or changing. It's about me changing and taking myself to a higher plane of consciousness. It's not easy, but I have learned it is a skill that can be learned and can improve with practice.

If you are buying at a grocery store, 9.5 is typical. If you are buying it from a water store, I always request the highest. 11ish.

Depends on the PH level you start at, but you can work up to higher PHs. The body naturally adjusts your PH inside you body, but it seems you simply aid in the process, it also says it is a good antioxidant etc.., all pretty light science behind it. But the healthiest and most fit people I know drink, so I decided to.

That is all I drink, you smile more! (There is no negative side effect that i am aware of). It might be more placebo than reality as far as health effects, but I prefer the taste regardless.

The assumption here is assuming the same body type for everyone. I have a very large frame, and even if I had 10% body fat, puts me at a BMI of 29. I really don't care about BMI as it is such a non-unique way to determine ideal weight it just doesn't matter to me. I just want to be healthy and fit, I can careless about what weight or BMI that ends up being.

It is part of massive weight loss, your body needs to adjust a lot of internal things losing so much weight so quickly, drink water and stay on your plan. Just relax and enjoy, you may also experience a stall when you are cleared to lift weights and you build muscle. But again , nothing the plan won't resolve with a little time.

I love popcorn and so far I have had it several times without consequence. I think it is an ideal food to have a handful of with little consequence. But I can easily see one portion turning to 10 if you are not careful.