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Oh and by the way , Aetna (case manager) said I am only allowed one level appeal and external review is not allowed under my plan So I did a little digging and pulled up my benefits and researched , then called Aetna and was told a different story. I am allowed an external appeal and my denial letter indicate that I am allowed not only one but two appeals plus an external review. This is unbelievable !!!! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App I hope you can read it ! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App @@dede0314 thank you. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App @@KristenLe thanks Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Yes I will fight. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App I hired lindstrom advocacy and they are fighting with this with me Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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Received message with the net weight gain photo but doing more research and found out by talking with dr office today and they said I did not gain , I actually lost weight start 6/2015 240lb to 9/2015 at 239.5 so I'm not sure what is going on. Maybe Bec The dr office submitted my paperwork to insurance comp two weeks after the 6 month deadline to schedule my surgery , I have no idea. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App
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oh wow I found the perfect forum, I am working with lindstrom as well. I hired them jan 2016 to help with my case to overturn my denial, but just last week they denied my appeal but lindstrom is not giving up without a fight they are an awesome team. The reason they are saying my surgery was denied bec of net weight gain 1.5 lbs and my surgery was not scheduled within 6 months of initial date. we questioned them over and over again , " when was I suppose to have scheduled the surgery if you already denied right after the 3 month pre-op requirement" ?. all Aetna could do is read my policy to us 20 times UGHHH! . I was so hurt and disgusted by this I could not believe it and I was going over it in my head about everything asking myself, where could things have went wrong? no way 1.5 lbs gained would be such a big deal bec you cant calculate 1.5 lbs as a major weight gain. So many factors can cause a 1.5 gain. clothes , time of month anything etc....... at this point , I was confused and I started to do a little digging on my own today 7/27/16. so, I called my dr office and asked what were my weigh in's which I should have been monitoring and keeping track of everything from insurance coverage to all my weigh in info. /initial start date 6/2015 240 , 7/2015 245 , 8/2015 242, finial weigh in 9/2015 239.5 .. MY MOUTH DROPPED! ok so where is this 1.5lb weight gain they are talking about, what was the real reason for denial???? so I am thinking the ball dropped with someone or am I missing something here ? has anyone experienced this before?
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That's a great idea too !!
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My first appt , the coordinator did not say anything about a 6 month pre-op. She just said well Aetna requirement is 3 month and she gave me a check off list of the things I need to do and numbers to call to set up my appointments within the 3 month period. I really did not know about the 6 months requirement until I received my benefits coverage summary. But as I reveiew the summary , I think they were following my co morbitities and which criteria I fall under and just told me To do the 3 month pre-op Bec I had all what the ins needed for approval me vs what they needed for the 6 months. So it all depends. But was definitely not told about the net weight gain , I was told that oh just as long as you do not gain 4 to 5 lbs or lose too much weight that would cause your bmi to go below the requirement for surgery you would be fine. They were shocked just as much as I was , and not well informed about the specifics but I should have read the information for myself instead of depending on them to know it all. So please please what ever you do not not gain any weight and get a copy of your coverage and read it throughly before you start spending money then be disappointed but if you stay within guidelines I know you will be approved whether it's 3 or 6 months.
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Yes I agree do not gain weight not even an ounce.
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Thank you ! I will check it out
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I FEEL YOUR PAIN!!!! UGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I want to scream !!!!!!!! Yes,I completely understand the frustration, I too, have been denied in Dec and I hired an advocate to fight this denial. all of my paperwork was submitted with my first appeal and just last week 7/22/16 they upheld the denial even though I have one of the co morbidities listed and I have followed the 3 month program monitoring for surgery. so my advocate called Aetna on a conference call and the Medical general surgeon (who is not a bariatric surgeon) who made the decision to deny my claim was not helpful AT ALL! she just kept reading from a script explaining the details of my policy which we already knew. so finally, Dr says, bec you did not schedule your surgery within the 6 months of your initial start date and you gained 1.5 lbs your claim was denied. start date was 6/25/16 - 9/16/16 paper work submitted for authorization and immediately denied. COME ON' 1.5 lbs, that could be anything from clothing, time of the month ..... anything !!! I can see if it was a significant weight gain like 10 lbs. they need to have more so we are going for a second appeal and I really need to find out if I am spinning my wheels or do I just need to start over... I wish there is something more we all can do to fight the insurance companies to stop denying surgeries for the simplest thing.
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does anyone know, if the denial is upheld how long do a person have to wait to start the process over again?
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Good Morning everyone! I needed some feedback and support regarding insurance not paying for bariatric surgery, I also have Aetna POS here in Louisiana and I too went through the 90 day program one of Aetna requirements, I fit all of the criteria and just last week received noticed I was denied because I gained 1 lb and did not schedule my procedure within 6 months of my initial start date. I was in shock, upset, and very disappointed. how can this be, initial program date 6/25/15 last weigh in date 9/16/15 and immediately was denied, I researched and hired obesity advocate /attorneys to fight this since Dec 2015 to start the first appeal process and last week the appeal was denied because I gained 1 lb. I do not understand that policy, I weighed in summer which means my clothes were lighter, then last weigh in was September which my clothes would have been a little heavier 1 lb is not a significant amount of weight to consider because 1 to 2 lbs can come from many factors such as clothes, time of the month, or if I had a snack or lunch prior to the appointment my clothes alone would weigh 1 to 2 lbs COME ON'. I can understand if I gained 5 lbs to 10 lbs of weight. OMG!! I want to scream...... Has anyone experienced AETNA denying surgery for weight gain and then was approved after it was appealed first or second time? Now we are going for round 2 and want to know if it is worth it bec I am so disappointed with Aetna. HELP!! please ADVISE!!
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Good Morning everyone! I needed some feedback and support regarding insurance not paying for bariatric surgery, I also have Aetna POS here in Louisiana and I too went through the 90 day program one of Aetna requirements, I fit all of the criteria and just last week received noticed I was denied because I gained 1 lb and did not schedule my procedure within 6 months of my initial start date. I was in shock, upset, and very disappointed. how can this be, initial program date 6/25/15 last weigh in date 9/16/15 and immediately was denied, I researched and hired obesity advocate /attorneys to fight this since Dec 2015 to start the first appeal process and last week the appeal was denied because I gained 1 lb. I do not understand that policy, I weighed in summer which means my clothes were lighter, then last weigh in was September which my clothes would have been a little heavier 1 lb is not a significant amount of weight to consider because 1 to 2 lbs can come from many factors such as clothes, time of the month, or if I had a snack or lunch prior to the appointment my clothes alone would weigh 1 to 2 lbs COME ON'. I can understand if I gained 5 lbs to 10 lbs of weight. OMG!! I want to scream...... Has anyone experienced AETNA denying surgery for weight gain and then was approved after it was appealed first or second time? Now we are going for round 2 and want to know if it is worth it bec I am so disappointed with Aetna. HELP!! please ADVISE!!
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Good Morning everyone! I needed some feedback and support regarding insurance not paying for bariatric surgery, I also have Aetna POS here in Louisiana and I too went through the 90 day program one of Aetna requirements, I fit all of the criteria and just last week received noticed I was denied because I gained 1 lb and did not schedule my procedure within 6 months of my initial start date. I was in shock, upset, and very disappointed. how can this be, initial program date 6/25/15 last weigh in date 9/16/15 and immediately was denied, I researched and hired obesity advocate /attorneys to fight this since Dec 2015 to start the first appeal process and last week the appeal was denied because I gained 1 lb. I do not understand that policy, I weighed in summer which means my clothes were lighter, then last weigh in was September which my clothes would have been a little heavier 1 lb is not a significant amount of weight to consider because 1 to 2 lbs can come from many factors such as clothes, time of the month, or if I had a snack or lunch prior to the appointment my clothes alone would weigh 1 to 2 lbs COME ON'. I can understand if I gained 5 lbs to 10 lbs of weight. OMG!! I want to scream...... Has anyone experienced AETNA denying surgery for weight gain and then was approved after it was appealed first or second time? Now we are going for round 2 and want to know if it is worth it bec I am so disappointed with Aetna. HELP!! please ADVISE!!