GinaCampbell

She needed to go fetch some labels for my bloods and the poop pot. I last saw it on the wooden desk where everyone sits in the Surgical Assessment Unit. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Thank you so much for the info. Will get bleach, and lots of it. I can re schedule the big move (furniture etc) for later and just pack away here in quarantine. Can the moving guys catch it from just moving the boxes and furniture? But there is no guarantee how long I will have C Diff. I have heard it can be tough to shift and I will be paying double rent until I get going. Didn't see this coming. I thought that I was clear. Nevermind! Will definitely hire a team of cleaners for after the move! I am so tired. I am still confused. Won't taking all these antibiotics leave me open to re populating with C Diff? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

They took the stool sample, blood sample and sent me home. Nutritionist said the results were normal back then so either they didn't test for C Diff that time, forgot to tell me that time, who knows. GP did a test on 28th June but didn't test for C Diff. Surgeon tested for C Diff on 29th June. And no, I was told that if there was anything wrong, they would phone me. They forgot to phone me. So no, even though they tested for C diff, I wasn't told to take any precautions and my poop sample bottle was handled without gloves after I was told to "just leave it on the desk love". I can't decide if God is trying to tell me to not move house or if the devil is trying to rob me of my dream house! Answers on a postcard please! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Thank you! I was certainly worried. My grandson is severely autistic non verbal and how we would get a stool sample off of him, I don't know! I stayed at their house for two days because I have been so ill and I am worried sick that I might have infected them. Little hands and toilet seats etc. They don't always wash their hands well enough! So I cried all morning because my little granddaughter was expecting me to have a short visit with her today but they have told me to stay isolated from them. She is only five, it's hard for her to understand and she worries because Grandma is always sick and "shrinking", bless her. I have texted my bariatric friends to let them know that I have C diff. Unfortunately, cleanliness and hygiene in hospitals here (my NHS one), is not to the same standard as in other places so who knows. I have no idea where I got it but I have been back to my surgeon three times with diarrhea. Really dreading the antibiotic course and what do I do about moving house? Now I have infectious runs! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

It was you that made a big issue of how you paid and I didn't! Of course I have paid in contributions, military service etc. It was you that made a big deal of the loan you took out. Not me. I am just dealing with Clostridium Difficile that the hospital "forgot" to tell me that I had at the moment. And if you sling mud my way, expect your hands to get a bit dirty! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Thanks Jo! Not sure what will happen with the bowel referral now. I rang up and chased results and was informed that I have Clostridium Difficile and have had for weeks if not months! I hope that I haven't infected my family and other people along the way! The surgeon knew in June that I had it, the infectious disease team knew I had it, even my GP knew I had it. But no one told me. Massive amounts or huge tablets to take that can't be crushed. I will message you Jo and thanks for your support! It means alot! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

What annoys me is that I have had this so long. And my GP, surgeon and the infectious control team all discussed this but no one called me. I only found out because I phoned them yesterday and they rang me back today. Even my bariatric nurse didn't know! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Today my bariatric nurse did say that it has been "one thing after another!" And no, told me to go to my GP and let them handle it!!!! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Two weeks of massive amounts of metronidazole! Massive pills that can't be crushed either. A little bit frightened that they might get stuck! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

I will definitely get some of this! Do you take it while taking the antibiotics or afterward? Thank you for your help! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Just a thanks to everyone who has messaged me and for the friend requests. Your support is appreciated. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

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What is "dangerous" is the refusal by most people on this thread who disagree with my personal experience (go figure? How can anyone challenge my own experience?) regardless of how many weeks I am post op, and who try to keep inserting emotions into a factual situation. Using words like "dictate"! Hilarious! It's an internet forum, not a political war! It is not dangerous for me to state that our NHS bariatric program does not educate and inform pre op participants about long term complications, situations such as food aversion, food revulsion, non ingestion of Proteins, bowel conditions, gallbladder removal, malnutrition complications (some life threatening). It is not dangerous for me to say, "Please look into this or that". Or to say "I don't like what I did to my body so you are not alone if you feel as myself and my friends do.". I never ever said that my health would not get "better". What I said is that MY surgeon, post op, had informed me that my gallbladder won't get better, that my bowel condition is not expected to change (see all other people on BP who have diarrhea post op long term), that food revulsion/aversion can be long term. Are you in England? Have you been through our program? What do you know about what our information program? My "credibility" should not concern you. It doesn't worry me. You don't read and comprehend my point. You simply whine about how I am rejecting the "love". Support is not telling me to shut up and get off this website. Support is not telling me that my points are not valid. Support is accepting that my point of view is as valid as yours. Why not just go participate on a thread that you enjoy? Or unsubscribe, hit ignore and move along. Thank you for highlighting this issue! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Thank you! I am here to continue to help the people who feel as I do. For everyone who stops by to be insulting, it highlights my objective. Education Please feel free to unsubscribe and ignore if you have no fear of or experience with post op regrets or issues. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App It is not your desire to 'educate' others that offends me; it's your frankly baffling treatment of well-meaning people that were sincerely trying to lift your spirits and give you another perspective. I have a niggling feeling that self-awareness might not be a forte of yours, so I'm not going to waste my time trying to put up a mirror for you see what you're doing (like others have tried to do, in a much more articulate and decent way than I can muster). I wish you well. As you don't know me personally, you can't possibly know what my "fortes" are. My spirits are fine. Remember, I have a counsellor. I don't come here for that sort of emotional support because we are all simply words on a page. If you feel "offended" because of something I write, then the issue is with you and you need to look in the mirror. There is nothing wrong with my prospective. We are all allowed to have our own. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

The reason people comment is complex. Some just want an argument. Some dislike my refusal to be driven away. Some simply find it confusing that I am willing to say clearly that this surgery is not for everyone. Your post is a common one. I don't need "help" to "get through" something that is impossible to change. The stomach is gone. I could have lost weight myself. This surgery proved it. The reason I have lost the majority of my excess weight is because I am starving. I am only able to ingest 300 to 400 cals most days and due to constant diarrhea, lose as much liquid as I take in. Some of us stuck to our pre op 800 cal diet because we had to to get what we wanted, surgery. What we don't like to admit is that some of us could have tried harder without altering our body permanently. And some of us just won't like the changes we are forced to make post op. I am brave enough to say that regardless of how unpopular this topic is. Again, I ask, how would you want me to feel? My actual opinion doesn't suit you, so what feeling do you want me to have? I could lie to the world here and say, I love my sleeve, this is great! I eat loads of Protein, don't mind the constant runs, food revulsion, etc But then someone like me, who was looking for advice, might just think we all love our sleeves. Thank you for highlighting this problem with your contribution! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Thank you! I am here to continue to help the people who feel as I do. For everyone who stops by to be insulting, it highlights my objective. Education Please feel free to unsubscribe and ignore if you have no fear of or experience with post op regrets or issues. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

I have heard of the fecal implant! I was hoping that once the IV antibiotics wore off that things would improve. I need to take moviprep (harsh clean out stuff) prior to the colonoscopy so the probiotic doesn't stand a chance just now. I do have some though. The medication to protect your gallbladder is called Urso and Urdiol. Some surgeons prescribe it after WLS. I am terrified to let the same team remove my gallbladder. I still have a 3 cm abdominal abscess from 31st May, (was 6.6 cm). I am even scared to let them do the colonoscopy at this point! Post op care on the ward is dreadful at the moment too as industrial action has caused some real upset amongst the staff. I heard plenty about their employment problems but could I get a bowl of broth or a yoghurt, not so much. So a bit scared to be admitted yet again. Waiting for a callback (nurse was on holiday???) about blood etc results from 28th/29th July and to ask about the cyst they found in, on , around (no one knows) my kidney, how big it is etc. I am hoping to ask for a referral to a gastroenterologist when she eventually phones me. I am sorry to hear about your bowel issues, did you see anyone about it? Did they put it down to the WLS? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

ImageUploadedByBariatricPal1470848154.337654.jpg Can you see it (inside photo) Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Kind of! I was expecting them to be sort of fluorescent. Apparently, it's shocking when the sun hits it, will take a photo the next time I am outside, whenever that is. Having to stay close to the loo at the moment! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

It is you, here, on the regrets topic thread. If you don't have any, why are you here? The NHS is making itself bankrupt by barrelling forward with bariatric surgeries riddled with complications. It's a statistics game. Call the post op complications something else and hide it out of the bariatric program. I don't care what anyone thinks of me personally, my objective has been made very clear. But you said that you were "interested" in blah, blah, blah. "They" who want me to stop "whinging" can unsubscribe, ignore and find a topic that "they" have some experience in. I am free to express myself here and will keep doing so! You don't regret your surgery so you have no experience in how some of us feel. I think that you are just angry that you now have to pay for two years for a surgery that your employer did for me without additional cost. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

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lol Will go outside and do it! Apparently they glow out in daylight. I can't see it myself! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

You said it yourself, you work for the NHS. That means that you are biased. Of course I was made aware of SOME possible complications/side effects of any surgery. You paid for your surgery so you did not attend the same seminars etc so you can't say what we were or not told. My own GP said that this all was "unforgiveable". We were not told that we might lose that much weight through ill health, therefore no mentions of gallbladders at all. You didn't even know that there are medications we can and should take, to protect our gallbladders! I had surgery on 31st May, was in hospital most of June. My granddaughter delayed her birthday meal to August 2nd so Grandma could go. I was picked up, driven to the venue, and driven home. For two hours! The timeline is clear. And I was actually in the SAW on July 29th having investigations for the bowel issue. My colonoscopy has been rescheduled twice as the dept feels that I am not well enough to withstand the moviprep without becoming dehydrated. My house move has been put off for months! The bariatric team got a cancellation (as did my friend with the abscess on her spleen and Fluid on her lungs and a mass where her drain site was!) and I was kind enough to move forward my surgery by four months to help them. I was not expected to be an HDU patient so was moved forward and given to a new surgeon who I only met on surgery day. I can provide you with all hospital inpatient dates, CT scans, blood appts, GP appts etc via photographs should you feel it necessary. You clearly haven't read my posts, even on this thread I have said that for us poor people who can't self pay, they don't normally do this bad a job! It is the bariatric program here, of which you have no knowledge, that I feel should look into their practices. And so does everyone else! I clearly hit a nerve! For your information, I paid in for 25 years, and I served in the military, I have paid my dues!! I paid in in the 40% tax band and our family business paid NI as both employers and employees! And yes, of course I will continue to use my entitlement. Of course, other depts of the NHS (of whom I have no issue except for cleanliness), are having to clean up this mess. My friends and I must be costing the NHS a fortune in complication cleanup! You have an agenda because you work for them! And you had to pay what you think I didn't. I paid with my blood, sweat and tears for twenty five years plus my military service (you are welcome). So pick an issue. You are calling me a liar, insinuating that I haven't "paid in enough", etc. I wonder why you are so "interested" in my NI contributions??? If you are bored, please stop following me around! Unsubscribe and move on! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

I appreciate your support first of all and oh yes, some British folk are a bit that way. But I am very glass half full due to my Faith. I divorced my British husband btw so no "dark goggles" hanging around my bedroom! As I said, even with all these complications, I have had to move on, am moving house and once I get the incontinence better controlled, hope to get back to church. Not sure we should even invoke Hitler into this, but I understand your point. My point is this, I can and have accepted responsibility for my decision. Even where I have been misinformed and some here say, where malpractice has occurred. Your husband will be able to understand how the NHS can be wonderful on the one hand but diabolical on the other. And yes, I will probably go on to achieve a reasonable quality of life. But I would have preferred my health pre op to post op. And that's okay. It's okay for me to not like my new body missing it's insides and due to have more removed. This is funny, but not funny... the repeated CT scans (3) and contrast dye plus all the IV meds plus cyclizine accident, turned the pigment in my eyebrows bright pink! Now this is a side effect I didn't see coming. I had my eyebrows microbladed(tattooed) a couple of years ago. The brown pigment turned bright pink and in the daylight, it's florescent! But that's an unforeseen complication and that one is rare. It is the foreseeable that I am trying to discuss with people. I only want people to research the things that I didn't know. The facts in the book that I only got on discharge would have been enough to make me pull out of the system! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

I know you wouldn't stoop to low blows like name calling. You don't have to. You read and pay attention and treat me like a fellow human being, unlike some. I had watched a neighbour go through her bypass first, that's one. She went through our system. I knew that she regretted her bypass but only found out, post op, about her diarrhea (three years now) issues, non ability to eat Protein issues and her general distress at how ill informed she was via our system. She feels as I do and wishes she had not done it, especially as her hair fell out and did not really grow back. She is extremely depressed especially as this surgery added medical problems and had no positive impact on her diabetes. Along the way, in seminars, I met fellow system users. I made friends who had friends in the system. We then all had our surgeries close together and because we are constantly either inpatient now, in clinics and/or grapevining information, help etc, I know of so many more people in our position. The people that went before us, except for my neighbour, either couldn't warn us as they were inpatient in HDU or felt like they "didn't want to put us off". Very British. Now that we all know each other, keep in touch etc, support each other, we know how each other feel. As for the BMI, on the day of surgery, I was told that I was borderline pass for surgery so yes, I consider myself on the lower side and should have simply continued my 800 cal diet as prescribed for another few weeks. I was definitely told not to eat and drink together and we have to start that several weeks pre op. I don't like it though but had no idea how much that I would dislike it. No, I was never told about food aversion, food revulsion pre op. I did not research it as I had never heard of it. Which is why I post regularly. I was told that within six weeks, I would be eating normally just in small portions. I was not told that my surgeon might make my remaining stomach smaller than 200 mls, which he did. My complications are not "unusually rare", certainly not in this system. I expected to have a reduced capacity in food ingestion. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Because we are not given medications that could save gallbladder removal during a rapid weightloss, I am now facing yet another permanent surgery that will have an effect on my pre existing bowel condition. Fact from surgeon. There is no guarantee that the impact this surgery has had on my pre existing bowel condition, constant diarrhea, incontinence etc, will ever change. Fact from surgeon. This constant diarrhea may cause me to need future surgery on my bowel due to constant inflammation. Fact from surgeon. There is no guarantee that my pre existing GERD (which my bariatric team said would be "cured" by this surgery) will get any better in five years time. My new lactose intolerance may now be permanent. Fact from surgeon. My inability to tolerate Protein, meat, eggs etc may also be permanent according to my surgeon. Not everyone goes back to eating whatever they want again and that is an irresponsible statement. And that is what I am warning people about! You can't say that in five years time I can eat normally just in small portions. If you are eating McDonalds, (something I never did), then it is you that is not achieving, not me. I do miss salads, and dairy and I do miss being able to eat protein, I do miss eating and drinking at the same time, I don't like feeling weak or my hair dropping out. I don't like being incontinent. I don't want to have my gallbladder removed. If you are so confident that all these issues will disappear in three months time, then I hope that you are right! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App