GinaCampbell

Yet again, an inaccurate post. Misinformation caused ME to make a wrong decision therefore I am highlighting my experience. Of course I have discussed with my child that she was right and I was wrong! Why would I discuss it here and not with my family. You neglect to mention that I almost DIED post op and my friend almost died post op. I did research mortality rates at my local hospital and my bariatric program. All we keep hearing is "this has never happened before, sorry". Just delete the emails when you see them in your inbox. One button. Use it. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Then why sling them? Just move on. Leave us who dislike our sleeves here. We simply want our voices heard. m Why do you want to silence us so much? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Gina, I want it to be clear that I'm not looking to silence you in any way whatsoever. What I am looking to do is find out why some people (and I'm not really talking about you, but others who've posted in this thread) seem to have so very little information/understanding of the procedure they've had, and what can be done to change that. If someone says "I thought I'd be able to eat anything, just less of it", then they weren't truly knowledgeable about what was going to happen and IMO, true 'informed consent' was not obtained prior to surgery. I was given a couple of lightweight handouts prior to my procedure, but I supplemented that with copious research...it would be impossible for ME to go forward with anything this serious without investigating it to the limits of my ability. Maybe it's because I work in healthcare, and am married to someone who works in healthcare, that I've never assumed that any doctor/nurse/caseworker has the time, concern and/or inclination to tell me EVERYTHING that may possibly arise from any procedure, medication, etc. Your situations sucks, plain and simple. If I had been in your shoes, with the health concerns you already had, I wouldn't have considered VSG for even a moment. But clearly, the information needed wasn't readily available to you and I find that concerning, in an abstract sense. Is it a shortcoming of the NHS system, or is it global and involving many/all healthcare systems. I have family who've lived in Europe all my life and they've used nationalized health systems with great success, and I have family in the US who've been utterly and completely failed by our for-profit health systems. My local bariatric program is not executed well. It is scarce in it's information, appts are rushed as is surgery. I met all the surgeons in our program pre op, then on the actual day, it was a surgeon that was new that I had never met. I only got to speak to him briefly just before he operated on me. I had never met my anaesthetist until minutes pre op. I, and others in my pre op stream feel that the surgeries should stop for now while the team concentrate on treating veterans who are still sick. Our post op care varies dramatically patient to patient. My particular hospital was going through industrial action during my surgery. I wasn't informed and it wasn't made public until I was post op and I saw the screens on computers and saw the employees crying and organising meetings in hospital rooms, kitchens etc. You are correct. I should not have gone ahead with surgery. Thank you for discussing the actual topic. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

The topic is being unhappy with your sleeve post op. Not about complications. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Ridiculous. My child's OPINION on my situation pre op, does not make it fact! Nor does it change this actual topic. You can't "help" me like a sleeve. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

You can't research what you have never heard of. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Thank you for keeping this thread alive to all who contribute. I understand your need to both helping me highlight the point of my starting this thread, raising awareness and some people's need to attempt to silence my whistleblowing. To all the people who are messaging me privately, thank you for your support. I understand why it is hard to give me support "publicly". I am happy to take the flaming and bullying, so determined am I to make changes for other people in the future. I don't want anyone else to take abuse though. Why on Earth people are bringing US politics in here, is beyond me. I do get the essence of the post that started it, but it isn't helpful. The bullies are doing as much as they can to silence me instead of just moving along and ignoring it. Bored people I guess. It gives me something to laugh at though at the end of very long and painful days. It never ceases to amaze me how a difference in opinion can cause such disgusting behaviour in these "supportive, caring" human beings. Attacking continually a sick, disabled person who is isolated due to a contagious infection and doing her best to move to a more medically suitable property while facing further hospital admission and procedures. Oh and all on 300 to 400 calories a day. Why not simply unfollow the thread? Move along. If you don't consider your sleeve a mistake, why hassle me on this thread? Do your worst. Water off a duck's back. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Then why sling them?Just move on. Leave us who dislike our sleeves here. We simply want our voices heard. m Why do you want to silence us so much? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App I was actually standing up for YOU. And thank you, but I'll read and post where I please. And so will I. Indefinitely. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

I won't be bullied off the thread I started. My counsellor simply laughs at "internet forum gladiators". We laugh about it together. If you don't have regrets, why are you on this particular thread? Ignore, move along! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

And no, no you really didn't. I know who I am and that I made absolutely the best decisions FOR ME. Your possible judgment has absolutely no bearing on my "psyche", I promise you. That said, by your logic, clearly those who have taken a little deeper look at your story have "struck a nerve" in yours... Doesn't bother me a bit. Obsess over me all you like. This has become a witch hunt. I won't be driven off nor silenced. My "story" is there to be read. Move along if you don't like it! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

I am not "frustrated, angry, sad". I am ill and a bit miffed. If you read anything at all, buried in amongst all the mud slinging against me, you will see that I totally owned my decision. I made it. If people are going to get personal, and they have, I will defend myself. Why anyone that doesn't regret their surgery is even following this amazes me. They whine and moan about reading it but yet they voluntarily read it. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Great! Thanks! NOW we are all in for a huge lesson on clostridium difficile colitis! Bet we get pics as well... Damn. I couldn't stop my mouth there. (Bows head and slowly backs out of the room...) Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Not from me! Not really sure what the obsession with me is here. Must be a slow thread month elsewhere! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

I won't waste breath arguing with this lengthy, inaccurate post. This house move has been very badly timed. It was planned months ago, to take place prior to my surgery by Occupational Therapists assisting my healthcare with our local council. As a courtesy, I consented to bringing the surgery forward as a new surgeon had been brought in and surgeries criteria changed. As I was not expected to be in the HDU, my list hurtled forward by months. I was assured that I would be fit and healthy and on my feet in six weeks so the move could transpire. Obviously, that all went to pot. The new house could not be held indefinitely so the OT's insisted that I move or lose the house, which was not an option. They have also been keen to remove me from the hot zone of the c dif so they can get me into a "cleaner" environment. They can then address the spore filled wet room that I have lived in during the three months that I had undiagnosed c dif. I am expected to be hospitalised 60 miles away in an infectious disease unit for intensive treatment by a specialist. We are currently attempting to get the referral in place. Since you are an NHS "expert", you will know how long these system streams take. I am in email contact with the consultant involved. I am also now awaiting a triage call tomorrow to decide if the c dif will go untreated in the meantime or if I will go onto my second round of metronidazole. The big confusion is duty of care. GP considers this post op surgical duty of care, bariatric team considers this to be GP duty of care. As you are an NHS expert, you will understand this. I repeat, unless you have been treated here, in our local system, you have no idea what my group knew or didn't know. I can prove everything I have said as there are so many of us. I have detailed information that PALS is dealing with on my behalf and have the full support of my GP regarding treatment (or lack of it) that she considers incredulous. NONE of my NHS treatment is free! I worked long and hard over half of my life to pay my National Insurance contributions at both employee and employer rates. You highlight the postcode lottery that patients face. You clearly had a good supportive team. I am pleased for you. Saying that my case is "impossible" is just ridiculous. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

I have prior to surgery and post surgery, have a counsellor. I am definitely not "down on myself" or "super depressed". I simply was not in the category of food issues. I was immobile for some time and gained too much weight. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

I was not in control of all of my food choices due to disability. I have said that I could have reduced my intake to my now "normal" 300 to 400 cals a day to lose weight as it is clearly possible! I have said that I made this decision, I laid down on the operating table. That's the point of this thread. Decision making. If you took the time to intelligently listen to the point, instead of personally insulting me, more understanding would be achieved. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Yes!!! A test should be given, psych evals should take place, patients should be given clear and full information. And all information, from A to Z should be given pre op, not post op on discharge as in my case! Warnings about changes to staff pay should be announced to patients before surgery, so they might decline being admitted during industrial action. The program should be longer, more intensive, more thorough. We were TOLD that six weeks out, we would be eating "normally", just in smaller quantities! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Then why sling them? Just move on. Leave us who dislike our sleeves here. We simply want our voices heard. m Why do you want to silence us so much? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

P.S. I am no longer overweight. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Ah, sarcasm! How intelligent and insightful! Now you are bullying anyone who supports my opinion. Why not stop following and move along? Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Why not just move along? Reading this thread is a choice. You just like the argument. I wasn't obese because I ate what I wanted, I became obese following a period of a five year illness which left me bedbound. Anyone following the low FODMAP plan for IBS will tell you, you cannot just eat what you want. But I clearly could have gone on a starvation liquid diet and lost weight, as that is what has happened to me and several of my friends, post op. What "work" are you talking about? I "work" now to STOP weightloss! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

A thousand times THIS!! People who offer kind, supportive and encouraging words should definitely be taken out back and shot. Shame on them!!! If only "they" would stop following this thread and go post their "support" elsewhere! And yes, shame on you! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

And I told you that I have both a counsellor and a GP, AND a PALs advisor who agree with me. You are not trying to help. You are trying to silence me here. You are definitely wasting your time there. I AM going to a different hospital where possible and if you are as obsessed as you appear to be, you will have read that. I have also said that I am starting the process of using PALs to address failings and IF I have permanent injury due to any of the treatment I received, I will address it. I don't believe in suing the NHS, as I said. Whistleblowers will always get bullied, and that is why people die. No one wants to speak out. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

And HERE you state you already had IBS and severe bowel problems pre-op? Post op you blamed the sleeve? Now it's possible CDif? Color me confused. The IBS was being controlled by two medications that I can no longer take due to a post op abscess and c dif infection. It's not "possible" c dif. I was finally diagnosed 29th June 2016 and INFORMED weeks later. First round of metronidazole completed. Can't get a retest or treatment as there are no GP appts, bariatric team won't help, surgeon on holiday. I will present to GP surgery when they open Tuesday for triage. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Interesting. I've been following this now very long thread because I'm pre op and want to hear all the perspectives. I looked back and found the post in question and you're right, this is the post. GinaCampbellJunior Guru Posts: 344 Joined: May 2016 Gender: Female Location: ENGLAND Surgery: Gastric Sleeve Surgery Date: May 2016 Height: 5 feet 2 inches Starting Weight: 266 lbs Weight Lost: 76 lbs Current Weight: 190 lbs Goal Weight: 125 lbs BMI: 34.7 @MentionPosted May 28, 2016 - 6:36 AM[/size] #9 My daughter thinks that I have not given conventional dieting enough of a chance. She feels that I could lose weight normally if I tried harder. I explained that I am addicted to food, cannot stop overeating and that my disability prevents me from exercising. I now am 95% bedbound. She just sees this surgery as a shortcut to weightloss. Also she feels that after surgery that I will simply overeat again so it won't be successful.No, she is not obese. Thank you all for being so supportive, it really helps. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Gina, it sounds like you had a LOT of health problems before the surgery and now you're trying to scare others away with your horror story but you're not giving the full picture. If you're truly trying to "inform the public", you should include the backstory as well. Well, now. Isn't that interesting? If one was already 95% bed ridden and in such shoddy health, why would one bla... Oh. Never mind. Exactly. I was not a good candidate. I pointed this out and was assured that this was the "answer". Now I am just malnourished, infected with c dif and then the rest, blah, blah, blah Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

Interesting. I've been following this now very long thread because I'm pre op and want to hear all the perspectives. I looked back and found the post in question and you're right, this is the post. GinaCampbellJunior Guru Posts: 344 Joined: May 2016 Gender: Female Location: ENGLAND Surgery: Gastric Sleeve Surgery Date: May 2016 Height: 5 feet 2 inches Starting Weight: 266 lbs Weight Lost: 76 lbs Current Weight: 190 lbs Goal Weight: 125 lbs BMI: 34.7 @MentionPosted May 28, 2016 - 6:36 AM #9 My daughter thinks that I have not given conventional dieting enough of a chance. She feels that I could lose weight normally if I tried harder. I explained that I am addicted to food, cannot stop overeating and that my disability prevents me from exercising. I now am 95% bedbound. She just sees this surgery as a shortcut to weightloss. Also she feels that after surgery that I will simply overeat again so it won't be successful. No, she is not obese. Thank you all for being so supportive, it really helps. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Gina, it sounds like you had a LOT of health problems before the surgery and now you're trying to scare others away with your horror story but you're not giving the full picture. If you're truly trying to "inform the public", you should include the backstory as well. As you clearly see, the backstory is there to be read. Thank you for being so interested in me and my health. It keeps this thread alive and raises awareness! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App

My bariatric team admit that none of my problems were created by my actions. I monitored my temperature every day post op. I was in telephone contact with the hospital from the moment my temperature spiked. I presented to the post surgical ward continuously. I followed up continously or I would be dead now. No one followed up with ME! I did contract c dif from the NHS healthcare system, an abscess did form that should not have, serious errors were made and the PALs system here agree and are going to try to work on my behalf to better my care and others. I am not the only one. If it bothers you that I think "some" people could lose more weight naturally, that's your problem. Check out "people's" pre op diet weight loss stats. I do NOT blame my surgeon. I DO think the NHS should review my LOCAL hospital's bariatric, post op and c dif care regimes. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App I couldn't stand the smell off coffee for about the first 5 months. I'm 6 months out now and I have 2 cups a day. Things change. Sent from my SM-G935F using the BariatricPal App That is great for you! Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App