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Does anyone know of a facility (preferably near Eugene) that takes OHG (Oregon health plan, which is a form of Medicaid)

Monkfruit is soooo good! I can’t stand aspartame, and steivia, yuck! 😖 splenda is okay but I understand it is kinda bad for you... but Monkfruit is great! The kind I get is slightly less sweet then sugar, very mild aftertaste but not unpleasant (reminds me of gum), when mixed with other flavors is almost unnoticeable (especially compared to anything with nasty aspartame)

I get mine at Sherms, they also have it at Whole Foods, and, of course, Amazon

My dietitian said to start sampling protein shakes and find one I like. I don’t like aspartame or steivia, but I like Splenda and monk fruit I like chocolate and vanilla and hate anything with banana Suggestions?

So you need a blender? Or can you just shake it up in a bottle?

I am terrified of being hungry!!! Heck, I have that thing where they look in your throat and I have to not eat for half a day (nothing after 7 the night before and nothing but water that morning, and nothing at all 4 hours before....) I am stressing over being so uncomfortable and miserable! I find hunger to be physically painful... I hate it! That week of liver shrink?? I am wondering if they can please put me in a coma for it! (Lol) I am also worried about being hungry after the surgery but unable to eat. Yesterday I went hiking. I brought one of those protein drinks my dietitian told me to try. 5 hours after lunch but 2 hours before I got home I drank it and had a hand full of nuts... it kinda took the edge off but I was still definitely hungry! If that was the state of satiety I would be uncomfortable and unhappy. I hate being hungry!

I did not like his attitude towards fat people. At one point he says “you think the healthiest thing is chicken breast, and you think you know that, but but you’re wrong. Look at your body. Now look at my body. I am not getting bariatric surgery. I have never had a weight problem. So listen to me not what you think you know, because which one of us looks like me know how to eat” This made me soooo mad! And it’s not true that if you are skinny you wat right and if you are fat you don’t. (I don’t care about the chicken part) I know a girl at work. She is soooo skinny I could almost put my hands around her waist. All I ever see her eat are donuts and cookies and energy drinks and soda. I mean she is so skinny she makes you look fat, Dr. Vonung, so I suppose you think I should copy her and eat what she eats?

Anyone here been "morbidly obese" since childhood and never been a normal weight in their life?

Thank you so much for sharing! You are NOT a looser, you are a HUMAN. Any of us can have, have had, or will have days like that... And sugury doesn't make you a different person, impervious to mistakes, bad choices, and bad days... But you did something few of us do: You confessed your humanity. And it is confessions like yours that make this a safe space for us all to admit to our own mistakes, instead of hiding them in shame under a facade of flawless compliance.

The newer weight watchers is much better. Basically fruit, veggies, lean protine, eggs, and fish are free... Sugar and saturated fat are counted against you- but not completely off limits. Healthy foods that should be consumed in moderation (like avacado, whole grain, etc) you mostly count calories (about 30 Cal a PT, if I recall). It make be a good way to keep things in proportion. And you don't need to weigh, measure, or count lean protine, fruit, or veg. I am pre-op and not a dietition tho.

I can try it with Splenda. Splenda is the only artificial sweetener I really like.

Oh no! How sad! The ones I have seen have had happy endings. I actually wondered if they scrapped the episode if they die on the operating table because sad endings don't make for good tv. ...I guess they don't

Another weightloss show I like I "fat doctor" from BBC

I don't like that guy. He comes across as harsh and mean. I am the kind of person who handles "tough love" by curling into a ball in my bed and hiding, feeling a painful mix of hopless, guilty, angry, incompetent, and resentful. I then seek something to take the edge off my emotional pain and down out my feelings. It makes me wanna curl up and hide, and lash out and scream at the same time. If you wanna help me lose weight you don't say, "look at you, you fat failure! You're gonna die if you don't get your eating under control!" Instead, you say, 'Hey, I'm going hiking on Saturday, you wanna come?" Or you say, "I know how busy you are, so I made you a skinless boneless chicken and veggie stir fry so you don't have to cook." Or you say, "I'm doing a whole 30 and am looking for someone to do it with me" Or, "I am starting a walking group" Or, "You know what I do when I feel aweful? Yoga. Wanna come with me to my next class?" Or even, "How can I help?" If you aren't willing to help me, that's fine, I am not your responsibility, but then stay out of it! I have been attacked for my weight my whole life, sometimes physically. I had to change schools 4 times for bullying in elementary. I can't stand it when doctors take a "tough love" stance with their patience. Education is one thing. But I see him go beyond education to blame. I want a doctor like Reeger from weightloss sugury podcast. She knows how to give it to you strait without accusing you.

This happens to me ALL the time! I have one little thing and get instantly re-addicted to sugar! I go, "well, it's Thanksgiving, it's a holiday... Mashed potatoes, stuffing, pie... Tomorrow I'll get on track". Then they send me a lovely to-go box... Including more pie... A smart person would have politely thrown the pie into the dumpster on the way home but.... And then, well heck, my diet is blown any way so I might as well have some hot cocoa, it's Christmas-time after all and it's been so cold lately... And I start craving sugar like MAD! Two weeks later and I am finally back on track... It's so easy to fall into trouble and so hard to climb back out. *Sigh*

Has losing 100lbs effected your swimming in any way? I ADORE swimming and have since I was about 5 years old! Not just swimming but "playing in the water", hand stands and flips and kicking off the wall to fly like Superman, and floating, and diving after a giant beach ball, and doing water yoga.... Pretty much if it involves being in the water (hot or cold) I love it! So here is my question: did losing weight effect your swimming in anyway? Were you cold? Were you embarrassed by your loose skin? Did the difference in bouancy cause you to need to change technique? Anything about swimming (other then no swimming for a few weeks right after (major BOO!!!!)?

Is it "uncomfortable" or just "there"? Does the less bouancy require a change in technique? Maybe more kicking for example?

To be honest, I didn't like old Dr V either. I felt he was condensending to obese people. He often said things like, "You think chicken is good for weight loss, but you don't know what is good for weightoss or you wouldn't be obese in the first place. I've never been obese, I don't have a weight problem, and so I am telling you..." I have heard him say at least every other video, "well, I don't have a weight problem so listen to me!" Great! I have a skinny friends who lives on small bags of Cheetos, fun sized Snickers, and full sugar energy drinks. Since "not having a weight problem" is an important credential should I eat like her??? My best friend who is around my goal weight lives on Dr Pepper. Should I eat like her?

Thanks. That isn't nearly as scary as "You WILL be hungry" sounds. And "hungry, but less powerfully so and easier to satisfy" is really good news! Yeah, I expect to have "cravings". Particularly if I eat too much sugar and fall off the wagon. I tend to get re-addicted fast!! (I am struggling with that right now given the holidays! Ugh! And I was doing so well before! I really, really was!) Are cravings any less? Or just about the same?

It is expected to (eventually) get hungry several hours after eating, and then be satisfied by a small meal... But what scares me... Kinda terrifies me... Is the idea of being hungry but physically unable to eat! To just have constant, gnawing hunger you can never satisfy because you don't have the room or whatever! Of if your body insists it needs 2000+ calories a day, and so you can be satisfied on your little 5 bite meal.... But only for fifteen minutes... And then the hunger comes back forcing you to graze all day or suffer hunger for hours between meals. That would be a horror show.

I am pre-op (in the 6 month hoop jumping phase) for me (so far) it has been one peice, and a bite off one of my daughter's.

There is this book called "Always Hungry Solutions" phase one is a sugar detox and it has worked well for me (and I have so far lost 24 lbs!) Another one is the 21 day sugar detox (it's Paleoish). It worked too but it's harder, I think.

I am working diligently on learning to recognize "head hunger" and I am getting pretty good at it. If I feel "hungry" because I see/smell/think about a certain particular food (sweets or chips for example) I do a mental check in. How does my body feel? Often my body feels "fine", there is no hunger in my stomache, no empty feeling, and if I tell myself, "okay, you can have that left over chicken breast in your lunch sack" my body answer, "meh,no thanks". Then I lable that feeling I am actually having. If all I want is one food or one kind of food (i.e. sweet), and it doesn't go away I just want sweets, or I want sweets even when not around them, then I am "cravey". If I wanna nibble cuz it is there in front of me, or I am bored, or I am maybe a teeny tiny bit hungry but really I'll be fine if I go another hour till lunch and I mostly just want something yummy, then I am "snacky". If I am see the pink box of donuts and want them only because they are free and in the break room then I am feeling, "opportunistic" If I am hungy but I try water and it goes away then I was "thirsty". Sometimes I lable what I am feeling as "not really hungry" but still give in. It's a learning process and I have 6 months or moreo to teach myself before surgery. If I used to give in 100% of the time and I now give in maybe 25% precent of the time, that's progress.

What is your favorite Bariatric sugury related podcast, you tube channel, or other place to get information audiolly (so I can listen while cleaning the house, walking the dog, etc) My favorite is the weightloss sugury podcast http://www.weightlosssurgerypodcast.com I also enjoy Dr Weiner's Pound of Cure you tube channel for a different approach (I like to see both ends of an issue, the wider net I cast the better for me to pull together the peices that will ultimately work for me) https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=%23&ved=0ahUKEwixtcSWj7beAhX9ITQIHSGGCJYQxa8BCCYwAA&usg=AOvVaw0VTJzWxrN8ZFOD4xbU2nov I also read a lot of pubmed and look stuff up ("sleeve vs bypass long term" for example), but I need to sit and read that. I learn better while actively doing something else, my ADHD mind wonders a lot when I read. What have you found helpful?

My HR person called me across the room and said (in an almost confused voice?) that Oregon Bariatric was on the phone for me on line 1!!!! I was totally embarrassed and now I feel aweful. I don't know who heard.... And I feel all suspicious and paranoid and upset. I can't concentrate on work. ((I asked them to call my cell, they said they did but couldn't get through, come to find out my phone was out of batteries.))