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Hells yeah! Count me as part of the "flyover militia"!!

I've always found that jealousy is born of low self esteem. I was never jealous....until an ex GF kinda screwed me up for a bit. It took awhile to re-do my head.

I don't think it's naive at all. Everybody has to choose. I worked while I was going to college (to pay for college). Guess what? It made me appreciate it more that one of those rich kids who have it all paid for. And hey, If you're doing it with all those obstacles, why can't everybody else? Sure it sucks to work and go to school and have to take care of kids, etc.....but the fact is that you're doing it. So....is your gripe that some people can't go to college, or that it's not easy for them to go to college?

Let go of the past, Fanny. That's not you anymore, so quit carrying that burden around.

Ok Fanny, you can be my market tester, lol

I'm waiting for folks to start quoting the Hollywood elite with stuff like " If (insert Obama or McCain here) wins, I'm leaving America and moving to (insert locale here)". I'm not certain if we can ever be truly unified. Much more than republican / democrat, I think the division is conservative / liberal (not counting the rabid extremists on either side). I would hope that we could put aside some things for the good of America.

Nope. I'm wearing chaps w/ clown shoes. I'm romantic like that. On a weirdly telling serious note, I'm considering posting some shirtless shots, or something. I don't really look good right now, but as I was wandering through the "before & after" pics, I saw that some people posted some really honest, gutsy pics.....On one hand, the documentation / progression would be cool. On the other hand, there is a very active Texarkana support group on site, and I'm certainly uncomfortable "putting it all out there". This summer, my family went to the "Great Wolf Lodge", a resort-type of place that has indoor / outdoor water slides. The check-in process is so slow that they give you a pager when it's time to register.....and you can swim and waterslide while you wait. So naturally (through a long and boring set of circumstances I won't go into), my oldest son and I end up waiting in the huge lobby, with hundreds of people, while we are shirtless and in our swimming trunks (and uh.....yeah. We were the only shirtless people there). We were both like "WTF? It feels like we are on a nude beach". So I guess I'm kinda modest like that. So I guess we'll see if I have the testicular fortitude to do shirtless pics.

Hey, the fact that UltraConservatives favor the Amish sex ed plan was supposed to secret! How'd that leak out? PS- yeah, I trashed the Amish....they won't be reading this anyway. Nerd.:biggrin: The way I heard it, every time he went down to Wall Street, they would make fun of his last name...Reduced to tears, he often fled to avoid further public humiliation.

What a butthole! Not just a guy, Mac......The guy... Awwwww, Fanny in love....how sweet. No sarcasm this time. Good for you, Fanny. Wow...there's quite a difference between Playboy and Shut up and blow me. Nudity.....well, I wouldn't go out of my way to show it to my kids, but I wouldn't freak if they saw some boobs in a movie. Pornography, however, is something totally different. Must...fight...urge....to...make...crude comment. I bet a dozen. Because I will personally start 10. Slim, as a dedicated, lifelong boob guy, I weep alongside you...You have my condolences. I love, love, LOVE my HS reunions. Of course, I went to a very small school. I have several HS folks on my MySpace. Of course, only geeks use facebook, right, SNT??

Why the irony? Nobody is exempt from having "child embarassment" issues. I know preachers' kids who are sooooo wild that they scare me. I know a police officer whose child recently got arrested for theft. Just being preggers.....heck, she's going to marry the baby daddy, and they won't live off welfare...from my view she's gold!!

Yup, you're being a big baby!! lol...... Seriously, you've been kicking ass!! My one recommendation (and I don't know your workout routine, so you might already be doing this) is to maybe add a little bit of strength training in with your walking. If you can add muscle, you'll pump up your metabolism and burn more calories at rest.....but don't give up on the walking, either!!! You have to find a balance between the two.

That's a well thought out and very articulate response, Fanny. I knew there were a few folks on here that I disagree with politically, but can offer an intelligent discourse!! Socialism works very well for other countries....that's cool. It's just not what America is. You can make a successful arguement that, in a sense, America tends to "eat our poor". Yet, no matter how poor the citizen, there is an opportunity to make life better. One just has to work hard. Yes, the poorer the citizen, the harder they have to work to improve their lot....and that's not totally fair....but it is a very American tenet that anybody determined enough can have a good life.

That's precisely my point, Mac. I personally do not want America to move towards the more socialistic European model (Note to my Aussie friends here - not meant as as an insult). I remain befuddled that Americans are ok with this....I think it's 50% greed (Hells yeah, give me money for nothing, mama government) and 50% vengence (let's take those rich bastards down a notch). It sounds cliche', but there's a tiny voice that's telling me once we start down that slippery path, it's going to be twice as easy for the government to start taking over key industries: Energy, Banking, Healthcare, Media, etc, until we are a totally socialist country. Or maybe I'm just paranoid from smoking the ganja...

That'll help ensure the tummy heals, though. Also, the all-liquid diet sure makes the mushies taste better....

Well, I think we know compared to most here, I'm a virtual golden god. I know for a fact that my quick wit, angelic face, and sculpted body make me popular. How do I know all this? My mother tells me every night...

I will admit that I don't watch the view very often (no, seriously!!). But from the clips I've seen (on such reputable shows as The Factor, and The Soup) Whoopi is far from balanced. When John McCain was on, Whoopia asked him if would appoint a strict constitutionalist to the supreme court. Then Whoopi asked if she should be worried about being a slave again. What a dumb-ass. I wonder if Whoopi knows that the only (and it's pretty nebulous) constitutional provision for slavery was that it couldn't be outlawed until, something like, 1808 (help me out here history buffs and constitutional lawyers). I know I'm kind of an idiot, but some Hollywood celebrities crack me up when they try to be all politically intellectual...

Did you name him "Voldemort"? :smile:

This should be on a greeting card. This is now my 2nd favorite poem.....right behind the limerick about the man from Nantuckett.

Why am I "so out of touch"? Because my opinion differs from yours? Because I question Obama's European-ish tax policy? And why are the attacks getting a little more personal, lowbmier? I suspect it's because you are having trouble putting together a coherent, logical arguement. I have yet to read anything but "think outside the box" and how "out of touch" I am.

Thank you for that link, She. That was exactly the sort of thing I was looking for.

Yup, that's what I'm saying.

Rosie said it, not me.

Nope. That's more Marxist. How has the middle class made the rich any richer? Do you think they get some of what you actually pay in taxes? Like a secret kickback or something? Which constitutional laws have been changed that have slapped you in the face? I disagree. If you really want to do college, it is doable. Maybe you have to work full time and take one course at a time. Maybe that course is at night. Maybe it's by distance learning. Maybe it's starting at a local community college. Where there is a will, there's a way. Nope. McCain wants to give every family a tax credit for health insurance to do whatever they want with it. I think maybe you have McCain & Obama mixed up on this issue. Now, the amount that McCain wants to credit ($5000 / year) is probably a little on the low side for most people, but it beats what they have now! Since you consider yourself to both a libertarian and a realist, will you be voting for Bob Barr?

Really? Elizabeth Hasselbeck thinks that? Those ladies on the view are outta control! First it was Rosie O'D claiming that fundamental Christianity and Judaism were as dangerous as Muslim fundamentalists (as well as saying that the US government was behind the terrorism on 9/11). It's sad that Hasselbeck can't be as intelligent as Rosie.

Wow. I think that may be where we're headed. And it's just so....un-American to me. I don't understand why more people aren't furious about this (BTW, I don't make much money, so my objection is not just me trying to hang on to my vast fortune. Of course CoL varies greatly by region. That's why I scoffed at the idea of "rich" being a family income over $250,000. In my neck of the woods, "rich" is not even half of that. Most people don't make even six figures and live pretty well.