MacMadame

They give you blood thinners. First in the hospital via IV, then they switch you to pill form (or some people get to shoot themselves up at home - fun!) to go home. You take them for ages and then it's all over. Yes, you can exercise eventually. I don't remember being told not to exercise at the time, but a) I hadn't just had surgery and it was 28 years ago and I don't remember all the details.

Talk to WASaBubbleButt. She already did it.

You probably don't have the energy now. But as you get farther out, it should come back. I also don't believe in the whole "sexual peak" thing.

Everyone in my family is either obese or has struggled with their weight or doesn't appear to struggle but has very disordered eating or some combination of those things.

Vanilla Slices?

Except it make it hard to follow or understand why SickNTired is so upset.

Hee. I was just about to post that you could change it until I read this. Yeah, that's what bugs more than a few innocent typos. That I'll get used to all this bad grammar and spelling. I'm not worried about the Gen Yers though. My spelling has improved DRAMATICALLY since I started using spell check. Now when I'm without it, I'm much more likely to catch a typo on my own.

Ah, the "joys" of first time parenting.... plain posts like a girl!!' (not really.)

Which means you are building muscle, I'm guessing. See if you are losing inches. If you are, then you are doing good things and losing weight the "right" way. Wait. I have to WORK for it? No one told me that.

Well I feel better today. I think it's just the permanency of it. I could fool myself that the band wasn't permanent and if it turned out to be a mistake, I could have it taken out. But when they cut my stomach out, it's gone. What if I don't like how my life is afterwards? Can't get it back! Of course, I'm already eating like I've had the surgery and it's fine. I don't feel strange at all. There isn't anything else that would be wildly different, as far as I can tell. I exercise now (when my health is up to it) and enjoy it and the sleeve doesn't require other lifestyle changes like some of the other surgeries do. I have to take vitamins, but they are exactly the same ones I am taking now. My poop should be about what it is now. Etc. Really, the eating is the only part that worries me. I don't want to throw up every time I eat or not be able to eat lots of different kinds of food. I'm doing this to be normal, not to trade one kind of abnormal eating for another.

So he's trying to tell you how to feel/how you do feel? Sounds like he didn't get much from the counseling you did. :tongue_smilie:

BBK is not having a good time. Poor baby. {{BBK}} Posting to say that I'm on vacation!! (Except I've read my work email and am about to call into work. Sigh.)

And MacMadame! Yes, I am getting sleeved. Except now that it's actually happening, I'm freaking out. I am quite surprised by this.

Tide pen never worked for me and sometimes it would bleach the color where I used it so from then until I gave up, I'd have a lighter patch with a stain in it.

You said "shoot the shit". In a DS thread. :biggrin: It sucks though. There is no real debate on most of the threads. I love these kinds of sections on other boards but I won't go to the OH one. Anyway, that's not what I came to post. I had to tell you guys this because maybe find it as funny as I did. I gave Mr. Mac my Pre-op Education guide that my surgeon gave me. Like a supportive husband, he read the whole thing. Today he gave it back to me and then stood there with a quizzical look on his face. I asked him if he wanted to talk about anything in the booklet and he said (and I quote): "After reading this booklet, I don't see why anyone gets that DS surgery. It's so dangerous and the side-effects are so gross. You'd have to be crazy to do that."

Well, kind of. It's supposed to link to whatever story is showing, but it just links the front page.

No, it doesn't work like that. Only 20% of the fat is absorbed so the rest is just pooped out. It doesn't end up in the arteries at all. This is why some have a poop problem -- because they don't have a cholesterol problem. Everthing in life is a trade off and that's theirs. Personally, I am not a big eater of greasy food and I don't think I could consume enough fat to be successful with a DS. It's one of the things that scares me about it. But having clogged arteries is not. Heh heh. At least our thread is in Rants and Raves, the un-PC thread. Really, there are nice DSers and even some of the more aggressive ones can be very helpful to non-DSers about insurance and surgery choices. But that particular forum on Obesity Help is run by a handful who have, as I like to say, drunk the kool-aide. They really do truly believe that theirs is the only good WLS. For everyone. All the time. And that everyone who doesn't get it, didn't get it because they just didn't know what they know. The kool-aid drinkers set the tone for the rest of them and convert the newbies. But there are kool-aide drinkers here. They've just drunk the lap band kool-aide. Plus the rest of us keep them in line. :crying:

Hi Pamela! I'm over here too. :crying:

But the lap band puts permanent scars on your gut. That's how it stays in place -- via scar tissue. It's very misleading to say that you can have your band taken out and everything goes back to normal. Yet, that's how the band is marketed ... as this safe surgery that isn't permanent. It's misleading.

Everyone wants someone else to take care of them. :wink2:

Well I find it doubtful. :wink2: Keep in mind that people constantly get the VBG and the VSG mixed up and that, until recently, there were only a handful of docs doing this as a stand alone procedure. So if those docs have done between 500-1000 each and the newer docs have done a handful, we're talking about maybe 50,000-100,000 people in the entire world who have had this surgery done. Now I'm not saying there isn't one single person in the world who managed to stretch their sleeve or put a band around it, but it's just not something that's happening on a regular basis.

What kind of problems? People generally don't get long-term complications from sleeves. It's not like RnY where people get reactive hypoglycemia and have to have part of their pancreas removed to fix it or get ulcers from the surgery that have to be treated. It's even very unlikely that the sleeve would stretch enough to require a fix. If you mean, what if I don't lose all the weight, it would depend on how little I had lost. If I was 10-20 lb more than I wanted to be, I'd lump it. If it was a significant amount, I would get some kind of intestinal bypass, either RnY or DS. I don't know which one because I haven't looked into the nitty gritty details of either. I'd probably go for a DS but I'm not sure I could eat enough fat to make it work. (I don't like greasy food.) I doubt I would put a band over it because the odds are just too high that I'd have to have yet another surgery to remove it some day and be right back where I started. Plus, the only thing a band would fix is if the sleeve had somehow stretched and was too big and you can fix that by having it tightened instead. Not to mention it rarely happens -- you really have to abuse the thing to get it to stretch. I don't know where you heard that people are putting bands over VSG. I don't know anyone who has done that -- it really hasn't been around long enough to know a lot of people who had revisions. Most VSGers will get a DS if they have inadequate weight loss because they figure they need the malabsorption after all.

My company blocked that site. That's pretty rare for them to block something.

I don't see these as advantages because they are all things that are necessary because of the band. If you didn't have a band, you wouldn't need them. I'm trying to think of a good analogy. How about this: An advantage of a car over a horse is that you can replace the brakes when they go bad. See how that's not an advantage? It's more of a leveler. As in: cars have parts that can go bad but you can easily replace them so that makes up for the fact that the parts go bad.

It works because I fixed it. Sort of. :biggrin2: It's supposed to take you to whatever article is showing right then but I can't make that happen in BBCode. Now I need to get them side by side. I can do all this in HTML but BBCode is a lot less flexible.