Muted_Tummy

fantastic status report! Congrats on doing so well.

They often treat sleevers like by pass for no solid reason or research they can point to. Water DOES NOT make a sleeve empty like that famous You Tube applesauce clip....that's not how digestion works when you have working stomach with all its parts. BUT....it takes up room and helps mush the food so you may have gastric emptying sooner than if you just down Protein, carbs and fat., or, you may not eat enough because you took up space with liquid. Centers use the 30/30 rule or 30/45 typically. Research shows that ice cold water leaves an empty (full sized) stomach in 5 minutes, though. For me....it's about nutrients, calories, scale and muscle vs fat loss...is all of that good? I typically try to stop drinking 15 - 30 minutes before I eat and typically wait to drink for the 30 minutes...but I will have a sip or two when I eat if needed to help it down and I have started drinking if really thirsty a before the 30 min mark here and there. FOR ME...I am hitting 1100 calories at 17 weeks, my macro ratio is where I want it and I hit 100% Calcium from food (still take extra)...so for me, how _I_ am drinking water at this point is NOT impacting my nutrition or weight loss. Did you know that cancer patients who have gatrectomies are told to limit fuild to 4 oz...not to abstain. Granted, their new stomach is probably bigger than ours (or varies)

Are u eating enough? As we move away fro. Surg, we are supposed to increase both capacity and calories. Sent from my SM-G900V using the BariatricPal App

May I ask a question (pre op)....because you brought up WW.....my plan is to return to WW after 3 months for the weekly support and accountability and keep it on the down low and just track like a bari, but.....wondering how you deal with points? Since you are so far out, is 30 points really possible with a sleeve? or are you also just utilzing them for the support?

Try room temp and add lemon slices Sent from my SM-G900V using the BariatricPal App

Did u peel the squash? nutribullet? Sent from my SM-G900V using the BariatricPal App

Good to hear! I am trying to mentally prepare that I have to give myself a month but then sectetly hoping that is really enough time to adjust to the new normal

Ugh at 10 months?...this makes me sad. But I was thinking 18 months ish out. Maintenance phase. I can't wrap my head around not being able to eat an apple as a snack "someday"

I am rechecking with nut next week regarding post op post healing phase, but currently my goal is 50 percent carbs, 20 percent protein, 30 percent fats. And protein must meet 60 to 80 grams per day. I am usually over that. Current calorie intake in preop phase is 1350 a day (for 2 lbs a week loss goal at my current weight). Wondering if the percents of total nutrition change (after mushees). She also said 15 grams or less of sugar per sit down for fear of dumping. A green apple is more than that! I need to review that part and get specifics on forever or just post op new...anyone here post post op experience dumping if you can eat a whole apple?

I am preop, but I hope my future answer is nothing. I have worked SO hard for 6 months (non my own) deciding if I wanted this surgery and doing research...before I ever set foot in an orientation. Scientific journals abt bougie size, results complications and regain....vlogs and blogs and forums seeing the range of woe is me to I feel f*cking fantastic!, printing out nutrition info from many diff weight loss centers to see the pattterns, Dr. Weiner entire vlog series and on and on. I also worked with my pcp to get to the bottom medically of all things in this body...really wanting to get how this body ticks. When I got to meetings with the team, I got fast tracked because I proved how mentally and lifestyle changed I already was. I have a binder with pages called dealing with constipation", "best products worth buying", "hair loss", "marriage" and so on. One big thing I keep preaching to other pre op folks about is get a therapist. You will read again and again. That successful sleevers changed their relationship with food. This takes work with a professional to identify what your unique issues are. They don't go away. And many regained show in their posts that 6mo to 18 months, when you can eat Cup to cup and half of food, all those habits come back. They work around their sleeve to still emo ti on ally eat, stress eat, feed their sugar addiction, etc. I have also had other surgeries so already have first hand info abt recovery that I will be able to separate out from sleeve. I didn't have hunger for three days after each of my surgeries (not wl surgery) Your body shuts that **** down to heal and you just focus on not dehydrating. Like childbirth, I know there is only so much you can fully prepare from info and anecdotes, but, I truly believe I am as prepared as I can possibly be and that makes all the professionals around me reinforcing how successful I really am gonna be long term based on their years of experience. The other thing is everyone is different, what is the end if the world for one person. Might be happening to someone else and they're fine. Some have complications some don't Nausea and vomitting...you never get the whole story on forums...which is why often you'll see replies that are lists of questions..did their surg not give them anti nausea meds? Is it remperature? Is it still not the right size sip or bite? We dont know. My NUT swears that the 'I can't get Water in'is BS. She told me to drink 1 to 2 oz every 15 min. That's my job the first two weeks. It's my life saving medicine. Just do it. So that is one I'll have to see on the other side. But going in. I have both expectations to help me cope...if I get it all in and it's work, my NUT prepped me for that. If no matter how hard I try I can maybe get half? Well ....many posters have prepped me to normalize that and just keep trying. I am not looking forward to and most worried abt the flooding of estrogen from my fat cells on mood and my cycle. Good luck in your pre op journey. Get out there and explore it all! There are even vegan sleevers out there. You can learn a lot about veggies from them! Sent from my SM-G900V using the BariatricPal App

Feel free to start a post called "protein bargains" Sent from my SM-G900V using the BariatricPal App

Mri scans show regained have not stretched their sleeve...they graze, eat high calorie easily digested crap, and don't follow da rules for Protein or Water. Do a pouch reset to get back to basics and reacquaint yourself with using the tool. Make sure you are also eating enough calories (check your nut notes). Pre or post op, folks who do not eat enough slow down their metabolism. Your body tries to protect itself with less nutrients coming in. Sent from my SM-G900V using the BariatricPal App

They'll give you a list of suggested liquids at nut classes. Everyone differs. After clear, expect Protein shakes, soups with no chunks, milk, maybe yogurt, all the clear liquids still ok. Sent from my SM-G900V using the BariatricPal App

You had me at 13 grams of protein LOL actually my NUT seems to not be inline with many posts here. Whole grains are added back in after 3 months. They still use that plate where some folks learn about healthy eating and whole grains and starches still have a place at a meal. As an all or nothing yo yo dieters, I really feel this approach will work for me. Today in pre op I had a bagel slim with greek cream cheese, cucumber, tomato and a slice of deli turkey on each half. Both sides are 18 grams of protein....my understanding is maybe at one year I'll be able to do one half for 9 grams. I plan on days like that, my morning snack will be a Protein shake. My plan is to eat delicious and healthy foods asap while meeting protein and Water guidelines. I understand that won't happen for a while, but I'll strive to get there from week 3 on! I'll take a look at the protein bread...do they make eng muffin and other bread products? How much "other stuff" that aren't nutrients come in ingredient list? Sent from my SM-G900V using the BariatricPal App

From a pre opper ....THANKS for posting this and congrats on this achievement! Sent from my SM-G900V using the BariatricPal App

All of this depends in who is doing your surgery and what insurance you have. My surgeons center follows you for 5 years. Appt at 2 weeks, 6 weeks, 3 mo, 6 mo, 1 yr, 2 yr 3 yr 4 yr 5 yr. Blood drawn at each. Appt vary between NUT, Surgeon and NP. We are encouraged to get our PCP on board since we see them annually and time physicals so that you are getting basic blood work from them annually too..in between. My pcp knows I am pre op and scheduled her own follow up for sept. My physical was in march. She says she wants to monitor me on her own for 2 years every 6 months. Sent from my SM-G900V using the BariatricPal App PCP. Nor packs Sent from my SM-G900V using the BariatricPal App

I am pre op and hope to have your experience! I am going in with low expectations so anything better feels awesome! LoL Sent from my SM-G900V using the BariatricPal App

Wondering out loud if anyone ever tried baby food prunes? I know I am cleared for stage 1 baby food in stage three (home from hospital til two weeks) , ot sure what stage prunes are.... Sent from my SM-G900V using the BariatricPal App

Lol crockpot!!! Phone won't let me edit my autocowrongs

Not a veteran but i wanted to apologize if my post felt judgey. So many on here do not seem to have nutrition guidelines and post food based questions so I think we tend to jump to guidelines guidelines! If we do not have the whole story. I am pre op and keep forgetting how diff post op plans really are. I can't start "eating anything I want" until 6 months. So when I saw that for 3 5 months, I assumed you were rushing your sleeve and not following protocals. "My bad". I have read here and elsewhere people do come around to dense Proteins...ofc like all things wls the when is "it depends. I have even seen some posts stating they still struggle with chicken specifically after a year. I notice it seems to make a difference is its just a grilled chicken breast or if it's like stewed in a cockpit or ground up. So I wonder from this side of the surgery if chicken is a sleeve readiness thing, a chew thing or both. Sounds like ur doing great hope you get the Protein piece crowd sourcing you need. Again, sorry.

Had my identity stolen and still cleaning up that nightmare, and, I've already seen enough trolls here and on gastricsleeve.com that I like my anonymity, but...this thread is spot on. So, I'll vaguely participate with what I am comfortable. I am in my mid 40s, married and have three children aged 21 - 13. Professionally I work full time as a tenured professor and I have side work related to my credentials, weekly, and a lot of work in summers when I am "off". (everyone in academia knows you are never really off LOL) I love to read, watch good TV and movies. Some of my TV obsessions are Orphan Black, Mr Robot and Walking Dead. When my body allows, I love hiking and biking. In the summers, the hubs and I take in as many concerts as we can (that appeal to us). Ummm....We always have dogs. I went through a stint of scrapbooking and hope to return to that at some point. Because work forces me to sit so much, I have tried to eliminate sitting hobbies for now. I was born in New England then moved to the southwest as an infant. Family moved back here when I was still elementary school aged and I am an New Englander true and true. I would love to see the Grand Canyon again as an adult. I've recently committed to better self-care so now I 'indulge' in weekly yoga and a bi-weekly massage. It really makes a difference when you put yourself on the list! When I am an empty nester, I hope to travel the world with the hubs.

Welcome. I am pre-op, too, and on my second surgeon. You'll learn quickly that the answer to all things WLS is "it depends". It depends on your surgeon. It depends on your insurance. It depends on your nutritionist. It depends on your procedure. Some commonality I have found across pre-op tales of reputable WL centers is... Some sort of orientation. Meeting with the surgeon (who decides with you which procedure). Pre-op work (this could be weight loss, classes/workshops, therapy, meetings with nutritionist, medical labs and tests) Getting approval from insurance Getting a surgery date. Then,,Approaching surgery normal pre-surg routine (meet with anesthesiology, your surgeon again blah blah blah) For some, this whole process is 3 months...for others 6....for others 12 and for others years of fighting for approval. if you are self-pay, this all moves much quicker.

I highly recommend you Google post op sleeve diet nutri to on and look for dr. Weiner. You seem to be woefully unprepared for effective sleeve life. Get a nutritionist if you do not have one that I nderstands wls. As a grab and go...look for boiled eggs, cheese stix, beef jerkey, nuts. When rest stopping. Sent from my SM-G900V using the BariatricPal App