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Very good questions, at the time I don’t think she felt she had another choice. She was doing some pretty harsh and addictive drugs (I do believe she was on Methamphetamines, coke, and heroine (she also popped any pill she could get)). She had a sobering moment when she realized she was pregnant and her child could be born with her addictions, and the mental retardation, physical retardation and other affects of her abuse. It wasn’t the choice of abortion that was the catalyst, but the emotional anguish after her abortion that spurred her on to change her life for her the child she would never hold. She didn’t want that life to be in vain. She wanted to live for the child that never would. Not necessarily, sometimes the right choice is as traumatic as the wrong choice. Here is a scenario I want you to think long and hard over; your elderly mother is on life support, no chance of ever ever waking up. You make the choice to terminate life support as you feel her soul has long departed and you are just keeping the body breathing. That is not an easy choice; it is a very traumatic choice. But it might be the right choice. While part of you is screaming she is there breathing, the other part of you is weeping as you know it is just an empty shell of a woman who used to be. How is that an easy choice? I know it is more apple and oranges these two topics, but the choice is as painful and soul wrenching. Yes, that is true many women do face such turmoil in life after making that choice. My friend was blessed with a loving and supportive family and friends. We held her hand through many days and nights of withdrawals, and mental screaming at what she had done. It was a horrid and trying time for us all. Mostly for her, but she came through, and she has taken the steps to insure her choice was not in vein, and it was in the end her choice. No, at the time that wasn’t a choice, not for her. Her pain and anguish are not holding her down, or keeping her in the past. She is using all of that as a tool to spur her life forward, raising her children right, instilling in them the belief in life. She has used that as her own reason for living right and to keep herself surrounded by loving caring people, and being a productive member of society. She has taken a tremendously sad and tragic time in her life to change her life for the better. Good gracious where did I ever give you the idea she thought that abortion was the best thing to happen to her?? It was categorically not the best thing to ever happen to her. It was a tremendously sad trial in her life. She does not justify what she has done, but she stands by her choice she made in her life.

Tommy, Empathy is something that is taught, not learned through life. I was raised to feel great sympathy and empathy for those around me. I am not Christian, nor am I am atheist. I do believe something is out there showing us how to be and how to live, it is our choice on whether or not we look at what we are being shown. For quite some time I wandered through life blindly, I was a drug addict, and just an all around mean spiteful person. My epiphany wasn't the same as most, my rock bottom was probably mild compared to some. But I did make the choice to change my life for the better. I wont judge nor begrudge someone because of there life choices nor there belief system. I wont offer harsh words or spiteful vitriol because they disagree with me. I can see your arguments and even understand them, but the way you convey them is just (strictly my opinion) mean and petty. I would assume you don't mean for them to come across as such, but that is how they are being perceived.

WoW!!!! Grats hun!! I find out on tuesday the "golden date" .. LOL I sooo can't wait!! Congrats again!!

hnladue, I see your logic, but I do disagree with it. An unborn child is not a cancer, nor is it a parasite. My children are 7 and 9, they need me (or another responsible adult) to survive, with out the guidance, care, and nurturing I (or another responsible adult) can give them they would waste away and die. I provide nourishment for there bodies, and nourishment for there minds. I would also like to think I am teaching them to protect there souls by making the right choices in life.

You know, I honestly feel for you. You seem so narrow minded that you can't see the other side of the coin. You can't grasp that people out there don't think like you, and if they don't they are wrong and evil and doomed to a life of hell. How come you can't see, that she took a horrid situation and turned it around in the end? You can't see that from that fateful moment she chose to terminate her pregnancy she turned her life around. Not because she had an abortion but because she knew she had to change or everything she had just done would be for nothing. She changed her life all for this unborn child that she would never hold, never see. She chose to make this unborn child the base to her life, not despite it. But you wont see that will you? You wont see that that one fateful moment changed her life forever. You wont see that she lives her life because of that child, not despite it. You go ahead and continue on that train of thought, I know differently as does my best friend. Sounds like to me you need to take a hard look at those pebbles in your hand before you cast anymore out.

Harsh? No, Ignorant of the facts in her life at the time, yes. That child would have been doomed to a life suffering from the mothers mistakes, born addicted to drugs and alcohol, born into a life of pain and anguish. Shortly after she had the abortion she put herself into rehab, cleaned up her life and left her ex. That sequence of events was the hardest thing she ever had to do in her life. Starting with aborting a child that was a part of her. You can say she took the "easy irresponsible" way out all you want, you do not know her, you do not know how much this choice haunts her. But she knows she made the right choice. She lives her life now for her unborn child, her sobriety her choosing to move forward and leave the relationship she was in was for this child's memory. In the end the ONLY person she has to answer to is her God, not you, not me, not some poor stuttering protesting schmuck on the street. Until you are in her shoes, you can't honestly pass judgment on her choices in life. Isn't the bible the one that states "let he who is with out sin cast the first stone"?? You got a handful of pebbles darlin, but I don't see your halo or wings anywhere.

I have to add my .02. This is a (true) story about my best friend. She had an abortion back in the early 90's, She knew when that pregnancy test came back positive she would be dooming that unborn child to a life of hell. She was a drug user, and a heavy drinker. She was in a very abusive marriage with one child already. She decided to go ahead and terminate the pregnancy. To this day she still feels the pain of what she had done. But she knows in her heart that it was the right choice to make, but that still doesn't stop the pain of knowing she did what she did. Now to this day I support her in her choice, I would have held her hand if I had lived closer to her. She also knows that if she had to make that choice again, she would do it again. That still doesn't stop the pain of what she had done. She now has 4 beautiful children is in a wonderful relationship with a great guy. Until the situation arises how can anyone tell another person what is right or wrong in there own personal life? You don't know her, so how can you or anyone tell her she is wrong for what she did?? This debate go on forever, even if they "ban" it (yeah that worked in the 50/60's didn't it ....) it will still be at the forefront of what ifs and how fores. There is no right answer to this one.

I was shocked, the people I thought would be the negative ones have been my biggest supporters (mainly my brother and my dad) and the ones I thought would be supportive in there own way have turned out to be the "you're not big enough" or "its the easy way out" people. Weird huh? All my brother did was ask and make sure I had done my research and said "Well I have watched you struggle with this our whole lives, maybe this will be the ticket to you getting where you want to be". I was floored. Sorry your friends and family aren't supporting you in this, but in the end you have to do what you need to do to be healthy.

I found something at GNC.com .. (I answered you in pre-op cause I couldn't find this thread ... LOL I am blind) This comes in chocolate, vanilla, and plain.

Someone had asked about a protein/vitamin supplement you can add to Water that has no flavor. I found this GNC.com I haven't tried it yet, but it looks like a good thing to try. I am going to go up to the GNC today and pick it up for my post op liquid diet. (edit in) The one I linked is actually chocolate flavor but they listed 'plain', vanilla, and chocolate flavors

Sonic Grilled cheese sammich... those are the only thing I eat there ... Rally burgers *dies* The BEST! ... In and out burgers second best ... As for the chain fast food .... blick .. not after my hubby told me how things are made in McDonald's and taco bell ... he will still eat there but not me ... no thanks ...

That just reminded me of something, my brother had a HS AP English Lit class and they were told to write a story on your own personal hero (remember that word personal). He wrote about John Lennon and the teacher failed him cause according to the teacher Lennon didn't qualify as a hero. Now of course he protested. It was brought to the other English lit teacher, the school counselor and the principle. They all agreed that it was another A paper for my brother (he is a bloody genius the freak) the teacher still refused to raise his grade!! The principle AND the counselor had to force there hands and change his grade them self!!!! I had this same teacher in my AP English Lit class, same assignment ( you would have thought he learned his lesson) almost failed me cause I wrote about my 'Uncle' (he is really my cousin) and how he charged on in life dealing with all of his demons. He chose not to fail me though, infact on the paper it said (my mom still has this) "A under protest" ROFL I died laughing when I got it back. :thumbup: I still get the giggles when I think about that particular grade.

I had a professor like that in college, those of us with 4.0 GPA's protested and won our hard earned A's. We thought it was horse pucky that we should be marked down for our hard work. She did change her grading that next year when she realized that it was penalizing those of us who worked our tails off maintaining that GPA.

Like others have said! Call your doctor straight away!

LOL Before my Gramma passed on, she lived across from a watermelon field. It actually smelled really YUMMY when the sun was just right and the breeze was ever so slight. I was never there after picking season to know if the left over melons rotted or not. I think I am glad of it.... She was also up the road from a dairy farm, and in front of a cow field. But it rarely stank where she lived, or it could be she had so many peppermint and butterscotch candy dishes in her house we never noticed.

I have been suffering from chronic migraines since I was a little kid. I have tried everything under the sun and nothing has worked for me. Midrin helps some, it gives me time to fall asleep so I can just run out the migraine on its own

oh yeah .. forgot about that part! Its supposed to be all butterflies and rainbows huh? Well let me get this 3rd cup of coffee down and I will get back to you on that ... :puke:

See, I don't look at the band as a precursor to a permanent diet. I see it as a tool to help me eat right and make sane choices. I am not banded yet (big YET) but I will be soon, and already I see myself making those changes that the band will afford me. I eat smaller meals, I try to make a conscious effort to chew my food and chew it some more if I have doubts about how much I chewed. I have been trying my damnedest to steer away from reeses Peanut Butter cups (they are my one and only super hero weakness) but easter got me again with those damned reeses eggs. Although this year I was in charge of what I ate and how much of it I ate!! Small changes but changes none the less. You are not asking stupid questions, its something everyone goes through. I know I had moments of panic about certain things. But then the sane part of my brain took over and here I am, still going through the process to get my band in. This is something I WANT and NEED to assist me to a healthier life. It wont fix me, but it will damned sure help me fix myself!!

My first husband was a 'roamer' ... cheated from the day we got married. I never cheated, unless you count dating other people when we filed for divorce. Hell, I couldn't even cheat on a boyfriend I was breaking up with until we broke up, damned parents instilling morals and crap in me, damn them... ROFL Current hubby and I are in a awesome relationship. Neither of us have cheated and I doubt it would ever happen, we talk to each other about issues we might have.

My auntie used to work at Dunkin donut's and I can remember staying with her over a summer holiday and walking up there at opening and getting free donuts *basks in fond memories* Damn now I want to go to dunkin donuts .. see what you people did?!?!? LOL

Wheetsin you crack me up LOL

I am kind of lucky I guess, my hubby will eat what ever I make. Not that he is lazy, I just don't like people in my kitchen. I am the cook in the family so its my domain and he knows better then to come in here and start making things. LOL Best bit is when I am going through the 'rough stuff' he is out of town (military and he is deployed) so I will have lots of prepackaged meals for the kids (they can make them so I don't have to) and all of my liquid stuff has been made already. My freezer is stocked with two ounce ice trays full of low sodium broth, and my pantry is stocked of Protein Shakes and stuff. So by the time he gets back I will be on a "normal" food diet. It all works out just fine in the end I think. And yes, it was in my vows also that I can be annoyed with him at any time for any reason. He has learned to live with it :crying:

Cute! I have 11 of em, currently working on the design of 4 more ... its an addiction

Here is the order we are going for the surgery at this hospital... (and bypass/sleeve patients follow this also) Initial Class (seminar) with the surgeon Second class with the coordinator Nutrition class (Post op and after care dietary life changes) Mandatory "support group" nutrition class (general) nutrition class (pt 2 of the general nut' class) back to the coordinator Psych eval Back to the coordinator again for final nod or to be told try again Meet and greet one and one with surgeon to make pre-op appts (tests paperwork etc) and to make the surgical date!! Pre-op check in (blood work, etc) Surgery!

Sweet cheeks if you are going to insult people ... Use a spell checker first, it tends to loose the impact when words are misspelled. I can show you how it should look with proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling if you want?