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Damn!

Wow, can definitely be insecurity, but man oh man, being told "I was going to fail" is an entirely different issue, one that would warrant some serious 'splaining.

I use Centrum Chewables in orange flavor. They're ok. They're better if you don't take them first thing in the morning! They're not the best tasting I'm sure, but they're the best for < 1 carb.

Although it's an extreme way to paint the picture, I heard an interesting factoid once during a debate on NPR. It was discussing the likelihood of an American success should we ever enter into war with China. They outlook was grim, in part because, as the speaker put it, "China has more people than America has bullets. More importantly, China is making more people faster than America can make more bullets." Now obviously wars are quite more advanced than bullets, and the outnumbered forces have certainly had their share of voctory, but to prove the point he was making at that particular time (essentially that it could come down to a matter of being exceedingly outnumbered) it was an effecient device.

This is the exact type of logical fallacy I was referring to. And exactly what I had anticipated someone would, at some point or another, assume was meant. To the contrary, I think you'll find that most people here, at least those who have thus far been active in the thread, will agree with you. I have a lot more education than my cousins with children. And don't think for a minute that education can only be measured in degrees. This is because they made bad choices that I did not make. It is certainly not because I'm an atheist and they're Catholic (I love that irony!). It is because I demanded of myself that DH and I spend time as husband and wife before spending time as father and mother. It is because I insisted of myself that I have an established career and be self-sufficient, fiscally, before having children. 2nd most recently I chose to finish my graduate work before having children, and most recently I decided to have the lap-band, with one of my top 3 reasons for banding being to carry a child in a healthier state and with reduced risks of complications. The conversation of education and children was not a religious conversation, prior to your assumptions.

I believe it. It's certainly true in my family. Of all the cousins, there are two of us who don't have kids yet. We're also the two with the highest level of education. That leaves 4 cousins. 3 of which had children in highschool and never went farther, one of which had a child in highschool, attended some college, and dropped out. But you also have to consider what the correlation is. Ice cream sales go up in the summer, crime goes up in the summer, does that mean ice cream makes people commit crimes? Logical fallacies are easy to make.

For me, and several women I know, there is a correlation to a point. It ook me a lot of weight to move down my first few sizes. Now a size is about 20 pounds, but when you wweight 150, 20 pounds is going to be a lot more than a size. Why? Think of things that have layers, like an onion. When you take off the first layer, you don't see much of a difference in size. Maybe even the next layer or two. But then you take off a layer and the onion is dramatically smaller. And then you get to the point where one layer is all that's left. We're kind of the same way. It's the fat we're losing relative to our body size.

Well, I'm part of the "crowd" that believes gay couples should be able to marry, but I've not proposed that people should be told how many children they should have. So I guess I'm not sure how to answer your question. Unless you're making a generalization that the "crowd" that was for gay marriages is some kind of single entity, so if one of us says something about the number of children we should have, then we all must be saying it?

I really only had pain in my port incision when standing up, sitting down, or walking unsupported. Or the time 2 days post-op when we were driving to visit my parents and DH took a set of train tracks a little fast! When I was in a resting state I had no pain unless I had to cough or sneeze or something. So to me the amount of pain you're feeling is not normal, though to others it sounds like it is.

I'm liking the new mix of country and rap - they're calling it "crap". Sorry couldn't help it. I like alternative from back when it will still an alternative to something. Early Pixies, early NIN, Violent Femmes, Smashing Pumpkins, Primus. Even relatively newer bands like 311 (I don't mean the 311 that the tweens are hearing on the radio, I mean classic 311, even before grassroots). I love me a good 80s sond - Tears for Fears, Joy Division. Some industrial. Some ambient. Some orchestral. I do like songs that blend styles, like just about anything from Adiemus (blend of classical orchestra and international native styles). I love a Swedish Band called Hoven Droven, that performs classical folk tunes with a funk rock slant. My mp3 currently has the Last of the Mohicans soundtrack, Donnie Darko soundtrack, Harry Connick Jr - We are in Love, and an ecclectic mix of random songs from bands like Velvet Underground, Orgy, Evanescence, Staind, Front 242, Utah Saints, etc. I'm all over the place. Minus country and rap.

"Breeder" can be used as a derogatory term, I guess, but not typically in the sense of Christian vs. non-Christian. Breeder is typically how homosexuals refer to heterosexuals, though certainly not always in a derogatory way. We get to call them gay, they get to call us breeders. What's the difference between calling a fundamentalist a fundie (I didn't do it, I'm just wondering), and calling someone who is Jewish a Jew? Or a police officer a cop? Or a fraternity a frat?

*going to hell!* :wave:

Looking for some guidelines or etiquette practices. Or just general opinions. We loaned a digital camcorder to a friend of DH's. Camcorder never made it back to us. Friend is a good guy and offered to buy us a replacement, or give us an amount of money toward an upgrade. Camcorder was older, about 5 years, but only used 3 or 4 times. Fat me would never let it come out of the bag b/c then I might have to face the facts of my huge ass. We paid a high price for it, which is really irrelevant since they've dropped so much in price and it's once hi-tech features aren't all that "hi" anymore. So what's the right way to handle this in terms of replacing the camera? Do we find a modern day camera with a similar set of features, and base what Friend "owes us" on that? Or does Friend "owe us" based on the current value of the camera, which is really low since it's an older, discontinued model? E.g. if we could go and buy a modern camera with similar features and it would cost $500, should Friend pay $500? Or should he pay, say - $150 toward the $500, because maybe we could have sold the camcorder for that amount? Hrmm...

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No one said they don't have the right to erect it, just that some are of the opinion that it's -- missing the point. To some it's going to be what the point is all about. To some, that statue might be seen as mockery, just like my idea would be to people for whom the crucifix has significant symbolism. Lady Libery is no different. Viva le France! And croissants!

So seriously, I may have next year's holiday decor ideas! I'll share a story that will help explain that. We live in a middle class neighborhood that thinks it's upper class. It's in a conservative part of town and the local population is dominated by the local Baptist megahugewhoppingwarehouse church. For our first holidays in the house, we decorated it like a gingerbread house, kind of. We cut out plywood gingerbread men and I painted them brown/white, and we lined the edge of the front yard with them. I made lights that looked like strings of giant wrapped candies. We made oversized lollipop "gardens" in the yard, and had big huge "kisses" on each stair up to the front door, and wrapped our door up like a stick of chewing gum. We do acknowledge the holidays, just not the religious aspect of the holidays. We put up a solstice tree. We thought our decorations were cute and creative. About 4 days after we put the decorations out we got an anonymous note "from the neighborhood" telling us that our decorations were blasphemous and that we hadn't remembered "the reason for the season" (yes we had, our solstice tree was up!) The letter went on to say that the candy house was inspired by Hansel & Gretel, which was a pagan story of god's children being consumed by the devil, and how we needed to take down our symbols of blasphemy immediately. We knew the note had come from the people directly across the street from us, who - at the time - were also one of only about 6 other families in our neighborhood (new development). So you know what we did? We left the fuckers up for 7 more months. In February, my little gingerbread men got plywood candy hearts pinned on their chests. In April - rain slickers and rubber duckies. In June we put swim trunks on them. Shamrocks for the luck o' the Irish. We finally took them down in July, after painting them red, white and blue. My little cookie cutter companions were starting to deteriorate, and I felt a proper burial was in order. So then as superwhoppingmegachurch began to grow, and had to add a fourth parking lot and new wing to accomodate the patrons, we started getting the door to door. EVERY weekend morning, and quite often in the evenings. You see - when they cross-checked their list of members against the list of addresses in the neighborhood, ours popped up as one of the people who didn't match, so they had to come and solicit. So our front door got this:

Marimaru, I'm in kind of the same way. I think parents need to prove ability to care for the child on their own. Financially, stability -- you know, all the same things they look at if you want to adopt. *sigh* How to do this - good question. But I would love to see it done. Can't remember the title now, but there's a book I read in school a few years ago. The class was "redefining human life" and covered topics like overpopulation, cloning, chimerism, etc. This book was for the overpopulation part of the class. The premise was that in the future, women are sterile until they take a fertility pill, kind of like reverse birth control, and that certain criteria had to be met in order to get the pill. It's killing me that I can't remember the author/title, because if you'd asked me 10 minutes ago I could have plucked it right out of thin air.

Lane Bryant carries the Cacique stuff, and I LOVE one of the bras in that line. I bought 10 of them b/c it's all I will wear now. There's a fabric pocket inside the cup that holds what I call a chicken cutlet -- a small, shaped air cushion -- to give the girls a little lift. But it's completely removeable, and the bra is great without it. The cups have a lot of structure, no seams, and helpful padding. I cut the underwires out, and absolutely love them after that.

That's such a shame. The meaning just isn't there. I wonder how the pastor & members of that church would feel if we erected a huge likeness of the crucified Jesus, palms facing upward, with a pizza in one hand, a vibrator in the other, and a beer helmet in place of the crown of thorns.

Friend is a good friend and a good guy, and far more valuable that a camera we hardly ever use. Actually our first response was, "Don't worry about it" - but this is at his insistance.

So if the old camera is worth $200, and the new one would cost $400, the difference is $200, so Friend pays $100 and we pay $300? Not a bad suggestion, just wanting to make sure I understand.

Disgusted that I got fat. Surprised by the career field I went in to, but happy with the success I've had in it. Very, very surprised I ever got married, let alone in my early 20s.

There's a big distinction here that seems to not be getting a lot of attention. "When something gets stuck I encourage PBs to help stop the pain" IS NOT the same thing as "I intentionally overeat, knowing it will cause me to PB, because I want more food than I can hold". One is an act of avoidance, the other is an act of compulsion. Totally different scenarios. Joyce, I'm glad you got the support you were looking for, and best of luck with your future efforts. Finding the roots and triggers for your compulsion will take you far.

Pixies. (Kind of cheating, some co-workers and I sat down with this a few years ago and found each and every band.)

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