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What? The doctors or the time spans?

Never thought this could be a factor but now that I think about it you might have a point here. But then again there are all these studies that claim the average (or median? not sure) loss is about 50% or 60% EWL after several years. And I think this is something to keep in mind. The studies look at the facts after several years and not several months. However, drop out rates can be sky high, especially when it comes to the real long term studies. You'll never know about the patients who dropped out.

Thanks for clarifying.

1) These are not "my links". 2) This is not about becoming a vegetarian or vegan. AFAIK neither creek nor I are vegetarians or vegans.

This reputation stuff is misleading anyway. Look at what people are pressing the like button for - a lot of the time it's the most trivial stuff that has no real value for the community. However, while in general I definitely agree with your post I feel that there is not much one can do about this. If posts are getting really insulting there is the possibility of reporting it (some boards show so-called "warning points" of users on their profile then). Best thing still seems to use the ignore function.

Seems like they took at least a few into consideration when it came to all-cause mortality.

It would also be nice if Fluffy and MIZ would stop abusing the laughing smilie button. Yes, we all know now that they hate both creek's and my posts and therefore try to ridicule them. Please stop this infantile behavior.

Ok, this is definitely coming late but when I'm thinking about "high protein diets" I always think in "%" and not in "g". 80 g of protein are about 336 kcal, so 80 g of protein on a 800 kcal diet = 42% protein 80 g of protein in a 1600 kcal diet = 21% protein

Temporary thing. Once you're a while out you will be able to eat decent amounts of food and you will (most likely) be able to have some alcohol if you wish. I attended a party just yesterday, yummy food buffet style. No alcohol this time though because the party was in the boonies and I had to drive home. Interestingly enough I feel like having a hangover today anyway, lol.

I don't know if this is going to help you but did you ever read about "goals" - like what happens when you reach one? People need goals. Best is to be prepared in advance: "What will be my next big and challenging goal once I have reached this one?" Weird as it sounds but sometimes people fear reaching their goals because they fall into this big hole once they reached it. So what's your next big goal? It doesn't necessarily have to be fitness or health related but it should be big and challenging.

Did it start with reaching that goal or did something else in your life happen that started the disaster?

Some people are self-righteous idiots you don't want to deal with in your life. It's as simple as that. On the internet it's quite easy to handle, plonk them and it's alright. Why should you want to deal with this sort of negativity?

Charge the date of your surgery to the original date 9 years ago. If you want to, put the date of your revision into your sig.

Good heavens, stop the paranoia please... *plonk*

And this is funny because...?

Biohacking? Not really my kind of beef since I managed to jump off the self-optimization wagon. Anyway... I think you're missing my point that a lot people associate insulin release only with carbohydrate intake and this is simply not true and I'm not sure why you're answer seems to be so over the top because this is all I wanted to say. If you want to live a keto-life and enjoy that and there is even research to back you up, that's absolutely fine However, in the end what this guy has to say is just another opinion, based on his research. Other researchers have other things to say, based on their research and we're all back to square one again.

Be careful though to consider that protein also releases insulin. I wonder why the insulin index seems to get so little attention within the whole insulin debate? I guess I'll stick with IF. Seems to be the simplest method and also seems to have anti-inflammatory benefits.

To come back to topic I think these 60% EWL after 5 years or so are pretty much common after some decades of WLS. I don't know how many people really get to a normal or near-normal weight and maintain it after 10 years or so. I don't know many people IRL who had WLS. One had lap band as well and gained it all back. Another one got to a normal weight and gained part of it back. Another one got lap band and revision to bypass and after looking at a picture of her a few months ago she gained at least most of it back. About the people on the boards who vanish - who knows? After all I vanished from the boards for years and years before a revision got me back to one. When it comes to weight and regain and the like I think too many people are asking the wrong question. Usually the question is: "What are these people doing to get to a and maintain a normal weight?" I personally think the question should be: "What enables these people to do the necessary things to get to a and maintain a normal weight?"

Weird. I can choose them from a drop down list.

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Actually I had that for the first few months and I decided to go lower on profile after that "ban wave" rushed through the boards and the "tough lovers gang" got banned. Never had pics online here (or anywhere) other than the one my employer made of our department. I think the older users can remember that I had them on my profile. About regain: I wrote in older posts about (temporary) regain when I stopped smoking and when the band started to migrate and fail in the year before revision. Both times the weight loss following the regain was easy and without a real effort. I have a BMI of 25 or 26 (depending on season) and I'm still not sure if I should shell out the money for plastics but I guess I will in the end. I'm actually quite afraid of complications on the one hand but on the other hand I'm quite unhappy with several of my hanging body parts. Stats can be faked and the person in the picture might not really be me. So while I can see where you're coming from I don't think it really adds to the credibility of a person when he/she is posting stats. For example, I wrote above that I had temporary regain twice and that getting rid of the weight again was quite effortless. Well, it could be that I made that up or that I regained four or five times during the years or that I struggle mightily... posting any stats or pictures won't change that everything I write here could as well be a big, fat lie. I have drawn information for free from the net without end regarding endless topics so I'm happy to provide my experiences and opinions in return because I think they might be helpful for others but I don't need people to believe me. I'm not butt hurt if people on a message board don't believe what I have to say or that they might think my whole account is fake and I never had WLS because at the end of the day it doesn't really make a difference for me. I'm not writing on message boards to make my living. 😂 Can't provide any horror stories here. I had laparoscopic gastric banding and you can only see the little scars at the usual incision points. But back in the days it was lap band for a young woman or nothing so there wasn't much to choose from.

Sorry, I won't post any stats and I certainly won't post any "piccy". If people choose to ditch anything I write without even thinking about it because of this - well, so be it. I don't care.

IMO this is one of the best advices the OP will ever get on this board or elsewhere. Same with exercise and every other thing in life.

... by James Wong. It's an interesting book that deals with how to get the most (micro)nutrients out of your food, e. g. you can read things like not to store tomatoes below 10°C so they can produce more lycopene or that steaming or microwaving crucifers retains 2x the antioxidants compared to boiling them. IMO it's an interesting read. He also provides some recipes

If you love cauliflower, choose a colored variety. It also looks really beautiful. 😀😀