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This. And all too often these "compliments" do seem to cross a line. "Weight" is a very emotional topic in our society.

Interestingly enough I feel invisible now. I blend into a group of people without sticking out like a sore thumb if I want to.

I think the really frustrating thing is (at least for me it was) that "being attracted to someone" and "being nice to someone" are two entirely different things and while I absolutely understand that someone isn't physically/sexually attracted to very overweight people I have no clue why being fat seems to affect how people in general react to you. I thought I looked awful when I was heavier and I don't think of very overweight people as "attractive" (sue me). However, that doesn't prevent me from being nice to heavier people. Being nice or polite or showing decent behavior or whatever one might call it is just a matter of common courtesy for me and not of weight. I have quite a few overweight colleagues in different departments of the hospital and I don't think of them as "lesser" or something like that and I don't know why anyone could even have the idea that their work or their ideas or whatever could somehow be less worth or less good than that of slimmer colleagues just because they're fat and I also don't have the impression that other thin colleagues might be having these thoughts. However, maybe it's different in other professions. In the medical field there are boatloads of overweight/fat people working as it seems to me.

Sometimes I have the impression that food logging is simply "the thing to do" when you want to be in the team of the "successful losers". It seems to be something that "you just do if you want to lose and maintain weight successfully". You know like exercising at the gym, not taking the elevator, having breakfast... all the stuff that floats around. There is no need to feel guilty about logging though IMO. Most feel guilty if they don't log. I know I did, lol. If you want to do it and you like it, simply do it. If you don't do anything with it anyway you might as well save your time. However, I log my exercise religiously even though the only thing I ever seem to do with it is looking at the routes I ran/biked/walked with the dog, especially when it comes to the routes I tracked during vacations (I usually take pictures of new routes as well and load them up on komoot so other people on komoot can plan some nice e. g. bike rides). So in a way I can see where you're coming from. I guess you've found what you're looking for. Many people on this site are logging their food. If they're in the majority or not is something you can't ever tell though. I hate these "shoulds" and "shouldn'ts". I should food log, I should exercise, I should clean my flat, I shouldn't eat this or that... They produce a certain kind of pressure, an uncomfortable kind of tension in me that I absolutely abhor.

Did the weight loss take up speed again?

May I ask why you want to be more dedicate to it? Is it because you feel somehow obliged to do so? Asking because I felt for a long time that I should keep a food log even though it didn't do me any good.

I stopped a few weeks after surgery when I noticed I would meet the required protein goals. Tried it sometimes again because I was curious how I'm doing nutrient wise but I was frustrated on day 1 already. The most frustrating thing was finding certain foods in databases (I'm a micronutrient obsessed eater) and having either to bring my lunch to work (which means not really logging my usual food) or doing guesswork at the cafeteria (not accurate enough). On top of this the calorie count displayed on the apps always makes me feel some kind of weird pressure (maybe it simply reminds me of the old dieting days). So I said "f**k food logs, I'm at a normal weight and have no trouble maintaining it so why am I even caring about how many calories I'm shoving down my throat?!" You'll just have to wait and see. Some people continue keeping food journals because they're helping them, others ditch them because food logging does more harm than good to them.

If you tend to freak out about sudden weight gains invest in a scale that measures body fat as well. These things might not be very accurate but when you gain weight and see a sudden drop in body fat at the same time - you're retaining water.

Yes. Carbohydrates bind water. Think glycogen for example.

There is really nothing on the forbidden foods list. Well, except maybe carbonated beverages. However, this seems to be a highly controversial and I can drink lightly carbonated beverages without problems. Otherwise nothing forbidden after the first weeks are over. ETA: they gave a list of foods we should try with caution since quite a few patient are sensitive to them, e. g. bread, pasta, rice, muesli, certain meats, acidic fruits... Dairy. Seems to give me heartburn. Since I eliminated it all I could finally start to wean off the PPI. I'm also sensitive to the harder-to-digest fats and too much protein foods or the combo of protein and fat. Without adding something like e. g. rice or bread it sits in my stomach like a brick and feels very uncomfortable. I also don't eat meat (not surgery related).

The real insanity is that this is about a bowl of fruit. Like anyone of us got fat because we ate too much fruit. LOL.

You already said that emotional/stress eating seems to be the real culprit. Why not working from there? Sooner or later you will give in into the real yummy stuff instead of snacking on the lowcarb/lowfat/highprotein/keto/lowcalorie/whatever godawful substitutes that are available nowadays. What deems a healthy snack depends on the one who's recommending it. However, all the healthy snacks and food and back-to-basics in the world won't keep you from regaining in the long run if you can't stop the stress eating because "life will happen" again... and again... and again.

Because many diet plans look exactly like the idiotic crash diets so many of us were on before WLS maybe?

People with an eating disorder will always say "I'm fine!" so that's no indicator (not saying that James has one).

So? If you're still in an energy deficit you're going to continue to lose weight. You're doing good with the weight loss. I feel a rant about the "stats" being displayed under our avatars bubbling up in me.

Too much training on not enough calories won't preserve too much of anything. It's a surefire way to run yourself into the ground in the shortest time possible. How old are you? Were you used to that much exercise earlier in your life already? How much exercise did you do a year or two before the surgery? Are you already a more advanced lifter so you need a 5 day split program instead of doing strength training two or three times a week? You're 2.5 months post-op and exercising this much. Sometimes even more than one exercise unit. And no rest day as it seems. Forget any stuff you've ever heard about supplements, inflammation levels or whatever. The reason your legs are giving in is that you're simply doing too much work for your fitness level and energy intake (you're 2.5 months post-op and that alone means you're still dealing with a lot of physical stress).

Maybe eat-stop-eat is a good read about this.

Slow losers? It's not a race. No gold medals and 1 million bucks for the one who crosses the magic finish line called "normal weight" first.

Given the fact how many patients complain about never reaching a reasonable goal weight, losing too much weight to the point of being seriously underweight is not that likely. As it seems patients usually don't have to consciously add in more calories as time goes by. It just kind of... seems to happen. Again: usually - there are always exceptions to all of it.

Sooner or later a body will reach equilibrium. Let's say you're eating 1800 kcal or 2000 kcal or whatever number of calories a day. You're going to lose weight until your body've reached a weight that requires it to burn this amount of calories a day to supply itself with blood, nutrients and warmth and move through the day. In theory this will also work while eating way less calories a day. You're going to lose weight until your body've reached an energy equilibrium (this might put you into the "looking sickly" category though) - or until the bingeing/loss-of-control-eating starts.

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Do you have an idea what it caused?

Seems to work, right? It's no miracle but it really seems to help chronic inflammation issues and I seem to need less sleep.

People tend to make it complicated. If you aren't a professional athlete who needs to devote the proverbial 101% of her/his to sports I don't think it's really complicated. As long as you are in a calorie deficit you're going to lose weight, no matter if you eat food x or y at a specific time z or not. Up the intensity of your workouts so they feel like workouts again and as far as eating concerns I won't dish out any advice.

Because That's the basic effect of training after all. A body getting more efficient doing the work.