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@@PB42 Don't expect to lose weight at 500-600 calories. You can do that in the very short term (like immediately post-op), but long term it just brings your metabolism to a crawl. By 6 to 8 weeks people should be in the 800-1000 calories range and you lose the most weight (early on) in that calorie range.

Your bra only has 3 hooks.

My way of eating is keto.

60 to 80 grams of protein isn't enough. I am over 100 everyday.

I only told people I knew would be supportive. They are all well educated and understand the science of weight loss. No ignorant comments.

@@Slick300 I think true foodies, not food addicts, do well after surgery. If you thought you were a food snob before surgery, after surgery it is times 10. I will not eat bad food or mediocre food, not at all. This have to basically be delicious for me to eat them. The time post off where you are eating very simply for weeks/months cleanses the palette in a very interesting way. When you add food back, good high quality food has the taste amplified quite a bit. You taste everything more. Which is why bad food is so terrible to you. I enjoy being able to eat at trendy restaurants and not walking away hungry. I can have a couple bites of something, get a taste for it and be satisfied. I really enjoy places with small plates, it completely cloaks my small capacity, and by the time people have realized I have barely ate anything, they are almost done (realizing they pigged out). I gave up alcohol long before surgery, so I can't really comment on that. I will have a sip of something if it compliments the dish, but it is purely for the taste/compliment. Alcohol does enhance food. I suggest paring with liquor before surgery and not having it, until you have lost over 50% of your excess weight. Some people can do well with alcohol after surgery, but others not so much. It is just empty calories, with no nutritional value. I think about food/drink in terms of how it benefits me, and alcohol just has few benefits and lots of cons. If you love food, really love, good food, you will after surgery. If you follow your food steps, and change your relationship with food in a positive manner, you can still be a foodie and be successful.

@@judy vsg It is true and false. The first 6-9 months, your sleeve is going to do most of the work for your weight loss. After you are fully healed and get to know your sleeve, as far as what you can and can't eat and how you can eat around it if you want to. The rest is on you. I know that pizza toppings are a slider for me. A lot of people post here that they eat the toppings off 2 slices of pizza and are full. I could probably eat the toppings off a large pizza and not feel restriction once. So I don't eat the toppings off of pizza. It is pointless. I eat dense, Protein. Dense protein works with my sleeve, not against it. If all I ate were things that are sliders, I would be working against my sleeve. The key to having your sleeve work for you and keep working for you long term is to FOLLOW YOUR DOCTOR ORDERED POST OP DIET. DO NOT ADVANCE YOUR STAGES. DO NOT INTRODUCE CARBS EARLY ON. LEARN TO LOVE DENSE PROTEIN AND GREEN VEGETABLES. If people really follow their plan, in 6-9 months you totally change your attitude towards food, and your tastes. You make a real change that lasts, You have the restrictive support of your sleeve and the weight loss to motivate you. The sleeve is just a way to jump start a healthy lifestyle. The problem is most people don't embrace that and treat their weight loss surgery like a new diet, not a new life. If you treat it like a new life, there is no limit to the success and how long you can be successful. Treat it like a diet and it will fail like every other diet. Also unless I go 16 or 24 hours without eating AND drinking, I am never hungry. I have to remind myself to eat and I eat on a schedule and track my food to make sure I get enough calories in. So the grehlin removal has worked very well for me.

I have a medically large bone structure. That still doesn't justify an extra 200 pounds. https://medlineplus.gov/ency/imagepages/17182.htm

@@Aggiemae and spend 3 days cleaning the food processor. I'll never do it again. The clean up is a nightmare. Not worth it for one person.

@@SleeveSoon Yeah I cook it with Ghee from Trader Joes. Just cooking it in the oil of your choice makes it like a rice, so its nice to have a simple side. You can add whatever seasoning you want to give it flavor. I mean you can do almost anything with it, so just google.

@@SlimJill I kind of got to a place food wasn't a comfort for me before surgery. I would say I found a new love for the outdoors and I do so many different activities that they fill a lot of voids for me. I mean I also play video games so if I get bored, there is always a game. Seek a therapist to help you with this.

@@mbuczkowski I don't think you really save or it is still about even. Yeah I don't spend a lot of money on fast food anymore, but the food I buy now is higher quality in general so it isn't cheap. I eat high quality Protein, grass fed, wild caught, organic. I don't think most people can really grasp the concept of replacing your entire wardrobe in a small amount of time. It depends on how you dress and what you are willing to spend on clothes but I have had to replace everything. Some things you don't think about like, socks, hosiery, jewelry (all my bracelets and rings are toast), bra, underwear, SHOES (all my shoes are useless, and even some of the one I bought earlier this year are too big). It is a massive expense and there are some things you can't get used like bras, underwear and shapewear. Over the past 17 months I had to replace things every 3-6 weeks. Eventually it will cheaper but right now it is the same if not more expensive.

I was responding to this. You don't need carbs to live.

Drink protein all day.

Are you taking a PPI? Are you having acid issues? You might not really be hungry but need some help with GERD. I had issues months 6-9 when I was eating more variety then it stopped.

Advancing your food stages isn't a good idea, but do you.

They sell it at the grocery store.

Lol are you in a city you could offer it to a Homeless person sometimes it's presumptive to think they will want it I once bought a homeless lady sleeping in the snow in the ally behind my apt Starbucks Breakfast and hot chocolate and she yelled at me :/ but I never I give up I give fruit and spare change and sweaters or old blankets to people with signs on corners when I see them most are very thankful for anything you can offer or tell you if they don't want it... Sent from my XT1635-02 using the BariatricPal App I pick over my restaurant food so much and tear it apart I wouldn't offer it to my dog. I live in an affluent area and there are no homeless people here. Unless they are hiding in Porshe 911s.

As far as I know you can't donate skin.

I like this but I think the alcoholism transference is more complicated than soothing with alcohol instead of food. We are skipping the mental component that a lot of people didn't really live life before WLS and are now enjoying life, sometimes in a way they never did before, and they are just going off the rails on partying. Some of us did that in College when everyone else was doing it, no need to repeat. There are other people that never had that chance and didn't learn the lessons of partying early on (all parties are the same, seriously, facts, thus one doesn't matter more than the next). Which is why more comprehensive post-op therapy is necessary for a lot of people. I don't want to derail this convo, I like where this is going but I still feel like everyone really ignores the mental and emotional aspects of massive weight loss for some people.

The reason why it matters to me, I can't speak to anyone else, is because Sleevers and people with RNY and the band have different anatomy and really different issues. There seems to be some kind of movement to lump everyone together but it isn't beneficial for anyone. RNY people need to be careful not to stretch their pouches because they do stretch. Sleeves that are properly made do no stretch. The idea that sleeves stretch is a myth that we really need to stomp out in the sleeve community. It is a lie and people keep using it as a crutch for bad food/life choices. It send the wrong message to new sleevers and spreads misinformation.

I thought this was going to be about eating Leeks.

Lmfao! You all are incredible. Text book version of cyber "mean girls". You all don't support- you talk down on newbies. You should have at least acknowledged that I corrected you, the vet, with facts. But then again, what can I say about a person like you. You all can have your forum this is worse than middle school. You probably got picked on as a child and now you take it out on people here. Lol. Because of people like you people commit suicide, you don't know what a person is going through, when you attack them on social platform but hey I guess that's way it goes here. I'll can tell you and your clique are strong, sad that it's useless. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App This is exactly why I don't respond to most newbie posts. The nasty kick back attitudes. The more this happens the more new people are going to end up just wallowing in ignorance, because vets are going to stop responding. You are new, handing out inaccurate information like you know what you are talking about to another new person (the blind leading the blind) and got angry because someone over 2 years out and other people that are vets agreed with them. Posters like you are exactly why most of the vets don't answer questions or even read most of the forum anymore. Bravo. You have been behaving like a spoiled irrational child this entire thread. You were wrong, and you can't accept it. Grow up. @@wendypenn They are twits. If you can't trust medical professionals to use proper terminology, what can you trust them with?

Early on you want to watch the acid in coffee. Cold Brew coffee that you warm (you can buy it at Trader Joes, or Target) Or get a low acid coffee, French Roasts are usually low acid, and Trader Joes sells a low acid french roast. A lot of Drs feel that caffeine is an appetite stimulant. I find it the exact opposite. I have been drinking coffee since 6 weeks. I started with cold brews and low acid and around the 1 year mark I just drink regular coffees no issues. I don't have GERD or any GERD issues.

Drop the hummus, yogurt and granola. Increase your calories to 1000 to 1200. Increase your Protein to 90g. It sounds like you are eating clean but your are eating a decent amount of low to no protein junk. Dump that stuff at 3 months you don't have room for all those extras. The first time I had hummus post-op was at 15 months and I had 2 tablespoons at a resturant on a date. I only have extras when I have met or exceeded my protein goals.