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Over eat once be in pain for hours, and you will not want to do it again. You are not healed enough to feel the real pain of over eating, wait till about 6 months when all your nerves are reconnected. Going out to eat and depending on your restriction to tell you when to stop is a terrible habit to start. If you can eat 1/3 a portion at 2 months, you will be eating it all by 6 or 9 months. Your sleeve won't stop you. I volume eat green veggies only. Baby spinach, salad greens, cucumbers. Huge amounts of those are low calorie. I avoided restaurants for a long time outside of social situations because I did not want to be tempted to get my monies worth.

With so little stomach space, and not meeting a minimum 60 grams of protein for basic healthy. You should probably cut the carbs back. Your carbs are almost equal to your protein and you are not getting enough protein in. Carbs are for when you have met your protein goals for the day, sleeve space in the beginning shouldn't be wasted on things that aren't protein especially if you are not meeting your protein goals.

I have a hard time trusting Youtubers. Honestly looking though her videos she seems like hypochondriac and a little whacky. I don't get why people have WLS and still are into every food fad and junk science that comes along.

Never heard of it.

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That isn't odd at all. That is exactly how a sleeve works. Dense protein small amounts. Just about everything else is infinite. Your sleeve is working exactly how it is supposed to work.

I dumped in the first 6 months with the sleeve. I did it twice making dumb choices. I haven't dumped since. Also most RNY people only dump in the beginning also. Dumping isn't an always thing for most people. There is no reason to choose a surgery on dumping. A lot of people that are sweets lovers and choose RNY are disappointed to learn long term they have eat all the sweets they want. Nothing will stop you from eating cake but you. What surgery you want is a personal choice. I picked the sleeve because it just seemed more logical to me. I'm single, live alone, not near family and I needed something with fast recovery, the least amount of long term maintenance and the lower complications rates. @MarinaGirl seems to really hate the sleeve for reasons that don't even make sense. She had an experimental surgery that has little data to back up that isn't even widely performed. No one rags on her about that, but she makes a point to show up in every thread she can and bash the sleeve. If you really listen to Dr Weiner he says every WLS should be considered a one time shot, and the reason is because you only get the metabolic reset once. Revisions don't give people the same metabolic reset as the first time. Plus with the exception of the band, because the band is just a terrible product, the reason people need revisions has nothing to do with the surgery and every thing to do with their food addiction, which he also explains. If someone is a food addict, surgery is not going to save them, no matter how many times they have it done. GERD is at a 20% in the general population and 10% in sleevers. If you already have GERD prior to surgery then getting the sleeve (unless the cause of your GERD is a hiatal hernia) is not a smart option. @Terri70 You just have to pick. The weight loss in the end will be about the same no matter what surgery you choose, because how much weight you lose and if you maintain depends solely on you and your choices. Weight loss surgery after about 6 months won't do the work for you, you have to. So the surgery you choose just depends on what you are most comfortable with.

The best thing to fade your scar is just time. I used Vitamin E and Bio Oil. You can still see them but its more like I see them because I know where they are, they are not really that noticeable. Last year before I lost enough for the skin on my stomach to get loose I had some 2 piece top and skirt combos that showed a little skin I used Dermablend on my scars and stretch marks. It lasts and doesn't rub off if you set it with a powder. http://www.dermablend.com/leg_and_body_makeup.html?dwvar_leg__and__body__makeup_color=FAIR NUDE 0N&cgid=makeup#prefn1=category&prefv1=Cover&start=1&cgid=makeup i found someone on ebay selling sample sizes and I purchsed 2 to get the right color and the samples were more than enough to wear that outfit like 2 times before it go too big Increasing your protein period will make your hair and everything else better. Long before surgery when my goals were not even about weight loss but growing my hair as fast as possible, I would supplement an extra 30 grams of protein each day. It made my hair grow like wild fire and a lot of my other friends were doing the same. So the best thing to do is to exceed your protein goals, either with regular protein or adding something like collagen. Also @Berry78 is right, if you really want them to fade, don't expose them to the sun.

I mentioned something aboutbthe fact I used to be fat to a guy, because we are taking about food, planning dinner or something and I was like nope that's how I got fat in the first place. He said "well you look good now, who cares about the past." Men care about what is in front of them, they don't think the way women do. Think like a man, live in the moment 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I really don't think you should date until you are at least 6 months post-op, a year would be better. Not just you but any weight loss patient including myself. If you waited all the things you feel you need to confess on this date would be a non issue. You would be at goal, no need to talk about your weight. You would know your sleeve and be able to eat almost normal portions. You would know your sleeve works and wouldn't feel the need to confess that you might be fat again. You would just in general have more confidence in dating. Don't tell this guy anything about your surgery or really anything super personal until you know he is going to stick around. I don't know what part of the country you live in but no dude in the Midwest or the south is going to care you are 25 pounds overweight. That damn near slim in these parts. Edited to add.. In the online dating world, a coffee date is not a real date. It is just a tool to determine if you are the person in the picture and if you are worth dating. So don't read too much into it.

I thought a lot about what you wrote and if I did not live near a major city my dating experiences and expectations would be completely different. Where I live now there are more college educated professional men in my age range that are single than women. Also where I live these women just aren't that attractive and usually are divorced with kids. I'm attractive, educated, no kids, business owner, and a good time. I have a huge competitive advantage where I live. I have friends all over the country and I know it's not the same everywhere. I can be ultra selective because I have a lot of choices.

@nomorefattypatty WLS is not going to help you with binge eating disorder. If you are binge eating now, you can binge eat after surgery. It is really easy to binge eat after surgery. You can eat sliders almost immediately, like mashed potatoes and gravy. And if you have really serious issues, you could binge eat while healing and tear your stomach/damage your healing. You have to get counseling and therapy for binge eating prior to surgery. Some people take vyvanse for binge eating disorder. Get help with the binge eating and get in a good mental space, then have surgery. Good luck.

Stalls are normal. You don't lose weight every day or ever week. Your body needs to adjust. I had one month I lost zero pounds but 2 dress sizes. If you are eating right you have nothing to worry about the weight will come off.

I have pills from the derm for my skin. As far as the rest, I don't have any good answers. I had a terrible time with the hormones

Give up the granola, and probably the yogurt and have dense protein or a protein shake in the morning. Give up the fruit until you have lost your weight. Fruit is still sugar, even if it is natural and comes with some fiber. Granola is a starch if it has oats in it. The granola and fruit is probably slowing your weight loss, give it up for 2 weeks and see what happens.

What does your food log look like daily?

I like Vega, if you get their higher quality protein, the sports versions, they have less carbs. It costs more but it is worth it

When your Dr says you can, which is going to be different for everyone. No one here knows your medical history.

1. It drops dramatically after surgery but it does increase for most people, but not back to prior levels. The human body is an amazing thing, and it will adapt and repair itself. I'm almost 2 years out and I rarely get hungry. The biggest benefit I had from the early drop was, it created a complete disconnect between my brain and my stomach. So even though I might crave something, walk or drive past food, or see a commercial, mentally wanting it, didn't start my stomach to working and desiring food. Prior to surgery if I thought about food, my body responded and I was hungry and wanted to eat. That doesn't happen anymore. I can think about food all day, my stomach doesn't care at all. I track my food to make sure I eat enough. I can easily go 24 hours without eating as long as I am drinking fluids. This is the study about ghrehlin. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4280419/ Most people can't tell the difference between head hunger and physical hunger. It impossible to teach people if they are food addicts, impulsive and want instant gratification. 2. Well for people with RNY, their pouches stretch and since they don't have the valve at the bottom of their stomach, the top part of the connected small intestine can act as another stomach. So much of weight loss surgery information is geared towards RNY patients it is really annoying. Properly formed sleeves don't stretch. Emphasis on properly formed sleeves, there are lots of quacks out there, but a corrected created sleeve won't stretch. Once people are healed and swelling goes down. Yes you have more capacity. Most people still have very limited capacity for dense protein. I can still really only eat 4 ounces of dense protein, if it is fatty or moist I might be able to hit as high as 6 but I am usually uncomfortable for hours afterward. Most people that are even further out from surgery than me, still have similar capacity with dense protein. I can eat basically an unlimited amount of veggies. I can eat 4 cups of baby spinach in one setting I can eat a whole cucumber. I can eat probably a family bag of chips if I tried (I eat quest chips not real chips but its the same idea, there is zero restriction). Once people vary their diet from dense protein and start adding more things into their diet, yes you can eat a lot more, especially if you eat things all together. If I eat veggies as the same time as my meat, like alternating bites, I can eat probably double my normal capacity. How much you can eat long term, is based on choices not capacity. Besides the guy last year that claimed he had a 24 ounce steak a month after surgery, I never see long term sleevers complaining they are eating 12 ounce ribeyes and are totally out of control and regaining because they are eating 16 ounces of grilled chicken at once. They are eating sliders and carbs in large amounts. When people say they have increased capacity. Pay attention to what they are eating, not how much they are eating. When I did my pre-op research that is what really stood out to me reading forums, people were working against their sleeve. It makes a nice list of foods and habits to avoid. It is better to just never start then you don't have to stop. My post-op eating plan has all these carbs and things that are allowed, but my Dr hands his patients a flyer of what he thinks creates lasting results, and he says not to reintroduce carbs. Almost all the Doctors I know personally (college, childhood friends) are Paleo, Keto, and in general low carb. 3. Regain is kind of like wrinkles. If you live long enough you are going to have some. Everyone is going to regain some weight at some point. How you want to define regain is important though. Regaining 10% to 15% of you lost is not really considered regain, that is fairly normal and as you age, and for women go through menopause, you are going to probably regain a little. The problem regainers are the people that start regaining before they have finished losing. They never get to goal or anywhere near it and they start regaining in the 6 to 18 month range. Usually people like that are never going to get their weight under control from what I have seen. They never learned good habits. They usually go right back to eating how they ate before surgery just in smaller portions. They don't weigh their food, they don't track and they think restriction is going to be the same forever and protect them. It won't. Immediately post-op is the easiest time to retrain yourself and create new eating habits. If you blow it, it is lost forever. Anyone can learn at any point, but later on you are going to have just as hard a time as you did pre-op. Also people that never get to goal or close (like 10 to 20 pounds) seem to regain more often not just because they have bad habits but also because they seem less likely to vigorously defend their loses. Being close to goal and maybe still wanting to hit it seems to make people want to defend it more. These people also usually weigh and track their food and weigh themselves on a scale often. Weighing yourself daily is the only way to see trends. Anyone can have a weight fluctuation of a few pounds between days, but when you are solidly up 5 pounds for over a week, it is time to make some changes. If you don't weigh yourself, people don't catch the regain until their clothes are uncomfortable. When real long term vets used to post here, one thing I noticed about them was that they just kept eating the same and lost until their body stopped wanting to lose. Going as low as you can possible go in the best defense against regain. Then you have some comfortable bounce room.

@CharlyScott Are you Southern Illinois like Carbondale southern or mid central like Springfield? I know that memorial has a program in Springfield and I am sure they have meetings.

My nurse that was sleeved gave me a great view of post-op life, a very realistic one. Better than I have ever got from anyone on forums and more realistic than what the Dr and Nutritionist could provide. When you check it at Des Peres, you really don't have to bring anything, they provide everything you need.

Surgery isn't easy, but it is the easiest I have ever lost weight. Once you get past the initial healing, it is basically effortless for months. If you don't tell people you had surgery you don't have to hear their dumbass comments.

There are some people that have lost that low and lower. It is just going to probably take you longer than a year. I was 358 on the day of surgery and I am 187 ish, right now. I'm hoping to hit 170 or 165 by the end of the year. I'm not sure if I really need to go that low before skin surgery, but I am going to try,

Everyone dreams about food when they can't eat. When you can eat something and chew, it should go away.

I just want to add that I forced myself to exercise even in bad weather for the first year to remove excuses. If I can walk in the rain and cold at 300 plus pounds, I can walk at [whatever weight I am] in any circumstances. It was more an effort in habit forming and mental reset than anything else. Plus I have a dog, I have to walk some every day. I adopted him about 3 weeks after surgery and besides being excellent companionship, I knew I wouldn't neglect a dog and having one would force me to walk. It worked!