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I refuse to ever take Biotin again. It always breaks me out even if i chug Water. People take it because it is cheap. I would rather take a more costly Vitamin that does the job, like Phyto, and avoid the breakouts.

I wish I listened to my grandmother and always wore a real girdle. I would have never got so fat. Spanx are complete BS. They don't provide enough control at all. I can definitely say that wear shapewear helps a lot. My hourglass shape is really coming along and my fats in the back are flattening out. That kind of extreme waist training is bad for people, but there are a lot of benefits to wear firm control shapewear. I plan on having plastics eventually but until I am going to exhaust all options.

That's perfect! My only concern is that I'm in the beginning stages of weight loss. Tomorrow marks 4 weeks for me as a matter of fact. Do I need to wait on items such as this until I get closer to goal or a few months out? Or go ahead and begin utilizing it now? I'm going to the gym at this point for cardio and will be released from weight/lifting restrictions in 2 more weeks. Sent from my SM-N910V using the BariatricPal App I wouldn't suggest wearing neoprene unless you can get 64 ounces of water or more in a day, you will sweat a lot. I didn't start doing any "extra" stuff until past 6 months.

Wearing a neoprene suit while working out can be beneficial. They make you sweat though, so you have to be really good with Water. I am really flabby right now so I basically wear compression or shapewear all day to be comfortable. I have to wear compression garments to work out and stop my skin/stomach from flopping around. I have one similar to this... http://www.amazon.com/Topmelon-Women-Neoprene-Double-Green-8003/dp/B014GVQIAY/ref=sr_1_6?srs=9156348011&ie=UTF8&qid=1461600520&sr=8-6&keywords=sport i wear it when I work out and around the house, I have a cream I use with it and it has helped with my skin and my back rolls. Waist training with boning is a real no no. I for someone who has had WLS it will increase GERD.

@@sgc You aren't back where you were. The thing that people have to understand is once you are healed, basically after 6 months. If you have the free time and the dedication you can sit all day and eat. If you choose to eat slider foods, you can eat tons of it. Lots of cake, Cookies and ice cream. The sleeve limits your portions but with dedication you can still over eat, and people who are binge eaters and don't resolve that before surgery will still be binge eaters. Surgery won't fix you, you have to fix you. If you have learned to eat properly, you won't do that, you will focus on Protein. If you don't do the mental work, you will be a sleeve failure. Just look on youtube and you will find plenty.

I already told you that you can eat chicken wings and even gave you a zero carb recipe to do it. They taste exactly like fried except they aren't. No one is saying you can't have a piece of cake at a party. The thing is after surgery, a lot of people find they aren't even interested in that cake. If you really change your habits your entire attitude about food changes.

The went to be early every night on pre-op and got up late. I also only watched Fat Doctor (UK). Pre-op sucks, flat out.

What people are trying to explain to you is that you can eat other things and not feel deprived. I don't eat Oreos for example, never have they are trash. I like real baked goods made from scratch. I still make baked goods from scratch, they are just sugar free and low carb. If I want something sweet and fast I can grab a Protein bar, the Oh Yeah One bars taste like candy, with 1g of sugar and 22 g of protein. If you change your relationship with food you don't feel deprived. The biggest part of losing weight is a mental fight. Long before I had surgery, I gave up alcohol, just for personal reasons. I don't drink and I don't feel deprived because alcohol doesn't interest me. When I drink in a social situation, I just take a few sips and stop because I am bored. It just doesn't interest me. Like cheap men, I'll pass.

Once you are over 2x the normal BMI like I was for 20 years, there is no easy way to lose weight. This is still really hard. My motivation to have surgery was health related. I went from being a healthy fat person to my health rapidly declining at a young age. I felt like I didn't have time to take chances on trying to lose weight once again without surgery. I don't have any negatives. food doesn't rule my life anymore which is pretty awesome. All this obsessing you are doing about food, is what I was like a few years ago. Once I got to the point my health was sliding, what I could eat was the least of my concerns. I wanted to be healthy. The improved health came first. Looking good in my new slutty clothes is just a side bonus. It is the thing that keeps me motivated because I can visibly see it every day and enjoy the benefits. Lower blood pressure while awesome doesn't pay off in the same way. No matter how you lose weight, surgery or not, it is all a head game. You have to be in the right mental space to make it happen.

@@Hey Man I mean maybe down the line. I am 9 months out. If I eat Protein first. I don't have room for anything else right now. I didn't eat rice before surgery and I don't eat it now. I will sometimes have riced Cauliflower as my side item. 3 oz of spinach is 20 calories and a lot of spinach. I have my veggies as Snacks between my protein meals but i don't eat them with my meals. I know someone who had bypass and 2.5 years out they can eat like a normal person just smaller. I think most people with the sleeve are like that also. Honestly, you are focusing on the wrong things. How much food you can eat and when should not be what makes you decide on surgery. Your health and quality of life should be the deciding factors. Right now I can walk into any store and shop for clothes. I can fit comfortably in seats everywhere. I have a ton of energy and I am more active with less stress on my body. I really don't give a damn about food. I have so many other great things going on in my life, that food is my fuel so I can do all the the other things. I don't have to worry about the pain in my knees, back, or diabetes and high blood pressure anymore. My biggest concern right now is how many times I can wear my new clothes before they are too big, And that is a great "problem" to have.

We talked about it here http://www.bariatricpal.com/topic/360260-ketogenic-diet/ I eat Keto. It is nice to follow post-op. It is hard to get the fats in really. I keep my carbs low easily and my Protein goals I meet daily. If I fall short on fat, it isn't the end of the world.

You can pretty much eat everything you like in moderation if you cook. There are healthy on plan substitutions for everything. I have hot wings and pizza and all kinds of things but I cook them myself from scratch, they are low carb, nutritious and fit in with my plan. I plan my calories and macros for the day so I can have what I want. I thought pre-op there was this possibility of a post-op deprived life, but my life and food choices are so much richer now. I eat high quality delicious food. When you only eat 4 oz at a time, the choice cuts of meat because suddenly easily affordable. Filet Mignon is surprising cheap when you are eating it in small portions. Lobster is a feast, etc. You do have to adjust your attitude about food though, and if you are using food as some kind of emotional crutch you need to work that out before surgery. BTW at 9 months I can only eat 2 chicken wings. What makes a chicken wing really varies these days since some of them are huge, but 2 and I am full, I might be able to have 2.5. skip the sugary sauce and just use a hot wing sauce with no sugar. no carbs, tons of flavor and lots of crunch. They look and taste fried.

A lot of it I think is kind of pointless and will just create unnecessary stress for people. Trying to learn to sip Water is really pointless. The way you can and will drink pre and post surgery are completely different. It really isn't something you can practice. Then there are other variables to drinking water like the temp post op. Creating a healthier relationship with food and getting off soda or alcohol pre-surgery are good ideas, you won't feel so deprived after surgery. A lot of things you experience post op, you can't mimic before surgery. Mainly because how you feel is so important. A tiny stomach that doesn't get hungry is very different from a normal stomach. Keeping your stress levels low are an important part of weight loss also, so creating additional stress can be counterproductive.

Well I can't give age appropriate advice because I dress like I am in my 20s. I also look like I am in my 20s, I hope it lasts. Anyway, don't buy goal clothes or shoes. Your body is probably different and when you lose you will look different. Also you may lose so rapidly you pass that goal up and never get to wear to wear it. I buy myself mini goal gifts. Tom Ford perfume, Armani lipstick, etc. Size goals might really drive you crazy. I am already basically at the size I hoped to be, but I still have at least 60lbs to go, so I am going to drop a few more sizes.

All of my thin friends shop constantly and clear their closets out on a seasonal basis. I think a lot of people think some problem are only fat people problems when they are universal to certain people. Women who like to shop, shop a lot regardless of size.

Mine was like @JamieLogical. I spent a lot on all the things to prevent it and met my Protein goals every single day from day 2 of surgery. Nothing stopped it. At 9 months my hair is growing back very rapidly. It sucked but its over and I don't even care now.

My post-op instructions say no lifting over 15lbs. And seriously I doubt you will be able to lift her. You use your core so much for lifting even if you don't realize it, and your muscles will have been cut.

@ If no one should take these posts serious, why is your back in a hump?

You are going to need help. You aren't going to be able to lift the toddler and you sure as heck won't want them crawling all over you. You are going to be sore sore sore. I felt like I did 1000 crunches. I wasn't in pain but I was sore. A toddler isn't going to understand that Mommy is sore. Also you are eating so little, and your body is using so much energy to heal, you are not going to have a lot of energy. Right after surgery you get tired fast. Do you have a friend or relative that can help? You are going to be exhausted with a fresh 2 year old and surgery.

@@MzStockton didn't ask for help that I can see. She just posted a visual statement about not being able to finish all her food as presented to her which is something we can all relate to, if we eat in our Dr directed time slots. @ This is a public forum, anyone can comment on anything you say. You can't pick and choose what people respond to. What you are doing is not recommend or optimal. I would hate for some new person to read your posts and think this is normal. Lots of people lurk on these forums, posting and responding to other posters helps more people than just the people posting in the thread. 3 hour meals are not normal or advised for WLS patients.

@@JamieLogical Is totally correct. Now people with bypass, have malabsorption, which work the best early on. The further from surgery they get, their body adjusts and it lessens. The honeymoon people talk about is really the time when the tool is doing most of the work and you are forced into eating decent because you are healing and adjusting. It is really just the time you are healing and should be labeled as such. while people have this really strong support of their tool to keep them on track, they should establish good habits while they still have their safety net to catch them. I'm 9 months out. My experience has been the first 6 months I was still healing, so my portions were limited and my tolerance to foods was sensitive. At the 6 month mark, like my Dr told, I was fully healed and it was like a switch flipped with my sleeve. I could eat more, I could tolerate more. If I hadn't established healthy lifestyle habits that I liked and enjoyed, it would have been really easy to slip back into old habits. I think the biggest mistake people make during the healing phase is adding slider foods into their diet because they are easier to digest and you don't have to watch your portions to prevent feeling full (which is really not pleasant). If you add them in during the healing phase, when you are fulling healed, you will be able to binge on them at the same level as a person that hasn't been sleeved.

I'm actually trying to help you. I'm not being rude. You are just taking it the wrong way. If it takes you 3 hours to finish a meal, you are eating 9-12 hours a day. How are you getting your fluids in? This makes no logical sense to people reading it.

Eating every 3 hours and having a meal last 3 hours are two totally different things. Most of us eat every 2-3 hours. It just doesn't take 3 hours to finish a meal. The idea you should finish eating in 20 minutes is one of the few WLS standards. Every disagreement isn't negative. This is the internet people are going to disagree.

OMG an excel spreadsheet? How have I not thought of that before. I am going to code a database for my clothing and accessories tonight! Thanks for the idea.

@@future Mrs I have hot wings 2-3 times a week. I make them myself. You can make them taste fried just cooking them in the oven. Make them like that and just use Red Hot Wing sauce as the sauce. No carbs.