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Because he created the investment firm (like every other mega rich person) to handle HIS investments. But lets skip all this. Answer me these two questions: 1. Did the article have proof or hard evidence that Al Gore is making money off "green" companies? 2. Did you before or after reading that article have proof and evidence that that Al gore is making money off "green" companies?

Sorry, just I have to go for a hour search to get you proof, yet you think its fun to post articles without even seeing if they are legit or not. Anyways here you go Company Information: GENERATION INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT LLP Glad I did it though cause it looks like they updated it in January

Because, the news site reports off that F13 form that he had to fill out. Which is in the same story YOU posted! What? You want me to go to the federal commerce building and pull the fricken original document or something?

By US Law if you are making over $100 Million in investments you are required to fill out a Form 13F. Which makes you fill out all your holdings, including how any stocks and what type they are. This 13F form is what news reports were coming from. Here's a link to the Fed site: Form 13F—Reports Filed by Institutional Investment Managers

I just wanted to add he does have a charity organization that does invest in "green" companies. So Al Gore technically has a kind of "stake" in more "green" companies, however he in no way profits from them. I don't think in anyway this suggests erroneous behavior.

That is his porfolio. Its been displayed on all news sites including all major news organizations. Also, the same news article you linked got it's reporting from a right wing site that posted the same portfolio. Liberal sites have been hollaring becasue Gore doesn't have any "Green" companies in their portfolio. Conservative sites are hollaring about Gore having GE in there. Most financial investors will tell you any major investment firm has stock in GE.

Pretty good article but again, do some more research. The story sounds like he is invested in all those companies he was showing on the overhead, however he isn't. His GIM investing portfolio has been made public you should see alot of reports like these: This story went out last year and ever since conservative moderators just bring up GE. GE is the only company that directly relates to what Al Gore is preaching. This is because GE makes the energy saving light bulbs he mentioned. GE is this largest non-oil company in the world sells thousands of products. I highly doubt their stock would go that much if they sold a few more lgiht bulbs. TRY AGAIN! :thumbup::confused:

Warning: This probably won't help at all lol! I have had the same feeling exactly where you are. Usually can feel it more when I sit at teh computer for a long time. I have bad posture. Anyways, been tested for everything and the only thing they can come up with is reflux. Even though the pain isn't where it should be the doctor says it travels for some people. I was reluctant to beleive him, by I've had ultrsounds, cat scans, colonscopy, endoscopy, and many xrays. Only thin that shows is signs of reflux. He started me on Zegerid and it almost went away now.

Just curious. Is your Doctor planning on fixing the port? what will happen if you aren't in town when this happens?

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, not sure if your using sarcasm and agreeing with me or just being patronizing.

Not all hybrids are mini coop wanna be's.... Check these hybrid/electric cars out:

Glad to hear they are better with waste now but I have another problem with them if you don't mind me asking. The stuff that is produced and "recycled" to help curb waste does in fact make radioactive material that could be put in weapons correct? Now, this is fine if WE have regualtions here. But contrary to what alot of americans believe their are other people in the world and could we trust them to be just as sincere with their waste. Doesn't matter how green america is if the rest of the world is still polluting.

I find this funny, cause this is exactly how health insurance works. Everyone pays into health insurance and only some have to use it. I could pay thousands of dollars in my lifetime on health insurance and never use it once. The only difference between the two is one is government ran and the other is privately ran.

To me this isn't a walfare issue or a "entitlement" issue. People who are on medicare or medicaid have it for medical needs. How many of us had to go through their insurance and prove that it is a medical "need" in order to get covered? Well whether you like it or not medicare and medicaid is a type of health insurance so if YOU get covered for a medical neccessity, why can't they? If you tell them they don't need it then your insurance shouldn't have covered it either. On a side note, I don't like the current entitlement programs our government has.

Waste! There is waste from nulcear plants. Here's some fact about nuclear waste: Sorry I don't have my computer with me so I had to quote these from a greeny site, but they are legit numbers. The problem is getting rid of the waste that lasts 100,000 to 500,000 years. The more plants we put in the more we will have to think of places to put it. Which will eventually lead us to dump the waste outside our borders, which would in turn making us dependent on other countries for our energy needs. Thats the reason I said short term. If we can knock the waste down, we will again have to find another alternative. I also understand this information is a bit dated and if you couldenlighten me as to how much the plants now account for in waste. I do know there is still some.

Thought the same thing here. Not many make six figures here. Especially spouses of people who got laid off in the automotive industry. Course its hard and scary for him because like most manufacturing plants, they are leaving and the ones that do stay renegotiated lower salaries for new employees. I know most people at GM here in Michigan are making around $26 dollars. A new employee use to be able to make close to the same thing but now new employees are making $14 an hour. Almost half what they use to get. The world economy is here and the USA has to change its economy to keep up. Unfortunately most politicians won't tell you that means longer hours, less regulations, and lower pay for all manufacturing jobs. We can't force other countries to pay their workers more. Your husband will have to take the lesser of two evils. Going back to school and train for a better job or take the same job somewhere else for alot less pay. It sucks I know, but apparently no one is going to change this situation.

So we can only change topics when it suits you or helps your case? Because that Al Gore discussion was misleading and has nothing to do with anything. You posting that proves that your no better then the talking heads on tv and radio that don't want to talk about issues but rather spew slanted garbage.

As for Nuclear plant ins US. I use to be for them. And I still am kinda. At least for the short term. However considering the cost to get one operated the lasting effects a nuclear plant may not be a good "short term" solution. People against nuclear plants have a legitimate gripe. Nuclear power plants in the distant future will either have to evolve. Although nuclear plants are cleaner the fossil fuel plants the effects on the planet and the waste it creates have far longer effect. So again, down the road Nuclear power plant will become just as much of a problem, if not worse then what environmental problems we have today. The only reason I would support nuclear power plants is IF they would replace our dependents on foreign oil.

Um, how is story about Al Gore not being green, even remotely an issue with global warming? Looks like your trying to prove global warming is a sham by pointing out how un-green Al Gores house is. Just doesn't make sense. Is he a hypocrite? Some people think so. I don't. But whether or not that is true has no bearing on the science behind the global warming debate. We digressed to Bible or Abortion because that is about as off topic is this one. You pointed out hypocrisy of Al Gore so they pointed out the hypocrisy with the religious right on abortions, environment, death penalty, and wars. All because of the abortion issue, the conservatives sucked all the religious people into their party. Now the poor right has to defend every aspect of conservatism even if it goes against their religion.

The new "AP" bands were avaiable July of 07. However up until end of 2007 mostly only the certified training surgeons were using them. I wouldn't make too muhc out of the new size. The big reason why the new ones require more liquid is becuase the "AP" band's balloon goes all the way around the stomach all 360 degrees. Where as previous bands only went around 270-310 degrees around leaving a flat spot where the buckle was. Here was a nice post on OH about the benefits of the new band though:

This makes me a sad panda, I have BCBS and my doctor hasn't gave Hurley all the stuff they need to hand in my packet. I keep calling the office and they say the doctor has my files and he is working on it. This means I might have to wait for another 5 weeks? Yikes! :huh2:

Getting banded by Farhan. I haven't been to any support groups so I didn't try to attend the Ball. Maybe next year! Was is worth going to?:huh2: And what made it difficult to go, if you don't mind me asking.

Let me tell you something. Before I went to see the shrink I thought it would be a bunch of BS. I never seenw a shrink before and really didn't believe in them. During most of my session, I was right. Everything he told me I already knew or was just a no brainer for me. But the minute he brought this point up, I sat there and imagined what I would be like after surgery and it was so true. We get so mixed up in something that makes our own lives better that we forget no one else is experiencing it except through you. Not saying you should or shouldn't tell people in your life. But for Gods sake keep it to a minimum. I work with, play with, and live on computers. Yet, I don't talk to my family about it all day. I save that for my online friends or co workers. Just like I will save all my hardcore WLS questions and gripes and goals online here and in support groups. :thumbup:

Yes, but two months is not "Recent" to anyone. Two months of hearing "tenants destroying my house" or "son got held back" and I would tell that person to STFU even if it is family. Yes, WLS is an ongoing battle but it was a choice of the person to have it and I don't need to hear about it every day. My other point was the fact that my RNY sister told everyone after my other sister's out burst that she felt she wasn't talking about it that much. However, every conversations with her would end up one way or another about her WLS. She had no idea how annoying it was, which is the reason I said take a look at what YOU are doing before, jumping on the "my sister is jealous" band wagon. My WLS psychiatrist mentioned I had listed alot of family and friends as my support structure at home. He then went on to ask if I went to any support meetings yet and i told him "no, I have plenty of family thats been through this already and they are supportive". He then went onto say that I should considered that list cut at least in half. Because even the closest people to you will not want to listen to your WLS story all the time after a few months. He said thats why support gorups are important. To get support from a place that will consistently listen and help you no matter how long.