SoulGlo

How does she push the lifestyle? I have never seen her encourage others to become her size or get bigger. In fact, she says works out and has dropped from a size 28 to a size 22. I think the message she promotes is to have confidence and a healthy self-esteem regardless of whatever size you are. Society really has a problem with anything promotes the positive wellbeing within fat folks, it's almost like there's a narrative that says fat people until they lose the weight should be unhappy and loathe themselves.

Imo, she a beautiful girl. I watched a documentary featuring Tess and she seems like a sweetheart. It's disappointing that she seems to be getting so much hate directed her way. I think it really irks people to see someone so far outside of what society deems beautiful and ideal have so much esteem and confidence in herself.

If you like mushrooms, then you can always satisfy your pizza cravings with a mushroom crust pizza. It's much much lower in calories and tastes like heaven. http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Personal-Portobello-Pizza/Detail.aspx?event8=1&prop24=SR_Thumb&e11=portobello%20mushrooms%20pizza&e8=Quick%20Search&event10=1&e7=Recipe&soid=sr_results_p1i3 Just swap the full fat items with low cal/fat alternatives. I used low fat mozzarella, low Cal pizza sauce, turkey bacon, reduced fat sausage and olives

Mainly for anxiety and confidence reasons, but also the way society and its narratives dehumanize fat and obese people was adversely affecting my self esteem. With the amount of disgust and hate toward fat people, you would have thought fat people were responsible for 9/11, the rape of nanking or starting WW1. In short, i wanted WLS to improve my mental health.

Do you mind elaborating little on these trends? At the point i'm at, i'm just really confused. Tbh my dietitians don't fill me with much confidence. My bariatric team has provided a diet list that's extremely carb friendly, you're allow Pasta and bread and whilst on here and other sites have a particular anti carb narrative. At the moment, i'm just trying to stay away from carbs as much possible to give me the best chance of meeting and progressing past my goal weight.

You wanted the bariatrics police... And I see you got them!!!! lol tell me about it ... Well if you build it, they will come. Forgive me but i'm cracking up at you saying 'Call the bariatric police' in jest and them actually turning up. Although i realise that it's hard to deal with cravings and social pressures, i do think that there are good chunks of reasoning within the chastising in this thread.

Op, i think you may be forgetting that opinions are subjective. While you may think someone looks sloppy or skanky, a different person might see that person as looking well put together or decent. Personally IMO, if a person loses a significant amount of weight then they should feel free to wear whatever they want. If they wanna rock up looking like Cher in the 'If i could turn back time' vid, then that's fine with me!!!

Kudos to you for hearing him out and respecting his opinion/decision even if you don't agree with it. With his current stance, there would be no point trying to tell him to lose weight (unaided) or seek surgery, he doesn't seem like he presently has the mind frame to battle through it. Luckily opinion/stances are not set in stone, maybe in a few years he might change his mind.

Wow, what a reach! How dramatic of you! Fm: Forum member.

My apologies. No offence, but it has been a struggle to get you and the other FM to realise that I wasn't talking directly about you. If i wanted to directly call you out or challenge your viewpoint, i would, there's nothing stopping me from doing that but i didn't need to.

Wait...whuuuuuut?!? Why in the world would ANYONE be "scared" of me? This conversation is getting even more ridiculous. Hahahahaha! Anyone else smell something fishy going on here? Erm where did i claim to read your mind or speak for you? I don't know how many times i can explain that i wasn't talking about you, I was speaking in general. You need to stop being so pressed, it ain't about you, chill.

Wait, what? It's wrong to have the desire to tell people about it? As I stated earlier, I would NEVER actually approach anyone, but I have to disagree with you that my desire to reach out to them is motivated by my own self esteem, bolstering of ego, etc. That's nonsense. That's like saying it's wrong to WANT a piece of chocolate cake or a bowl of ice cream while relearning good nutrition. Actually consuming something off plan might be a bad choice, but the desire is normal and natural. No offense but you have stated this various times throughout the thread, I get it. My post was talking about in general about people who do this, not you specifically!!!! Well, your entitled to think my opinion is nonsense, I personally think that your assertion that people who approach fat people has nothing to do with bolstering their own esteem or ego is bull roar. We'll have to agree to disagree! Regardless of whether one considers it natural or not, imo still wrong. If you want try and normalise this behaviour that's your prerogative. It's hard to know to whom one is speaking when no one is quoted. That said, you did say that the DESIRE to approach someone is wrong which is bizarre to me. I totally agree with you that actually acting on that desire is wrong, even if I don't agree that it's motivated by ego/self esteem. I think some people are genuinely trying to help, not realizing how detrimental their actions might be. It seems that you have desire to act and actual ACTION confused. Nope, I haven't. I articulated that both the desire and the action is wrong. We're just gonna have to agree to disagree on the motivations behind it. May seem bizarre to you, seems pretty straightforward to me. As i said, we'll have agree to disagree

Yeah, I was talking to you. If you understood the OP didn't intend to approach or speak to anyone, why did part of your last post sound like you thought she was going to march up to a young woman and say, "Hey, fatty -- considered weight loss surgery?" And yeah, I understood your response. You think that a person who's been fat (but now isn't) who feels empathy for a fat person and their physical and emotional pain is fucked up. As i said reading and comprehension is key. I already said that i was talking about people in general and not the OP. I ain't scared of the OP, if i wanted to call her out directly, i would have done so but i was talking generally not specifically. Hope this post enlightens your confusion. While i respect your opinion, i don't agree with it. I consider myself to be extremely empathetic to point that where i realise that whilst telling some random stranger about benefits of WLS might yield a positive outcome, there's a massive risk that the opposite may happen and the approached person ends up feeling shit about themselves. I would rather secretly hope that everything works out for them.

I agree with this, especially the part about ulterior motives, boosting their own egos and self esteem and narcissism. The whole post is well said. Aww Thanks

I don't know who this shady comment is directed at but if it is me then fyi i have thread thoroughly. I totally get what the op is saying even though i disagree with parts of it. The real question did you actually thoroughly read my response?? Another protip: Reading and Comprehension is key!!!!!

Wait, what? It's wrong to have the desire to tell people about it? As I stated earlier, I would NEVER actually approach anyone, but I have to disagree with you that my desire to reach out to them is motivated by my own self esteem, bolstering of ego, etc. That's nonsense. That's like saying it's wrong to WANT a piece of chocolate cake or a bowl of ice cream while relearning good nutrition. Actually consuming something off plan might be a bad choice, but the desire is normal and natural. No offense but you have stated this various times throughout the thread, I get it. My post was talking about in general about people who do this, not you specifically!!!! Well, your entitled to think my opinion is nonsense, I personally think that your assertion that people who approach fat people has nothing to do with bolstering their own esteem or ego is bull roar. We'll have to agree to disagree! Regardless of whether one considers it natural or not, imo still wrong. If you want try and normalise this behaviour that's your prerogative.

Personally I feel that regardless of whether it's the desire to or the actual action of going up to obese people to tell them the wonders of WLS, it's wrong and usually it's motivations are rooted in ulterior motives. Former fat people who promote or indulge in this practice of offering unsolicited advice to random obese people , try and claim that they're doing out of care and concern but really it's more about boosting their own ego and self esteem. It's faux concern, you don't really care about these people. If you really did, you would take the time and energy to get to know them before offering any life changing advice. If you are not willing to spend the time to know them, be actively supportive if they do decide to proceed with wls, go with them to dr's appointments, help them after surgery, then you don't really have right to be offering unsolicited advice about wls. It also has be said that there's a slice of narcissism involved in going up to people and advertising the benefits of Wls and how it's helped you. Do you really think you're going to be the hero of their story? Do you really think that after you offer your advice the said person will go have instantly proceed with wls and live happily ever after? Do you really think that you are the first person to approach them? Do you really think they completely ignorant about Wls? I just think that when someone takes an interest or actually decides to actually have surgery, it's best if that decision or interest is totally organic and not because someone else (especially a stranger) has badgered them into it

I have been lurking on this forum since 2013 and have enjoyed reading about FMs' bariatric journeys and the advice and knowledge that has come with that but this post right here infuriated me so much that i had to make an account so i could post a reply. I find it quite sad and hilariously hypocritical when overweight individuals lose weight and then think they have the right to hate or look down on other fat people. Not so long ago, you were those same fat people you were judging and sneering at, just remember that. Everyone here has taken their time to go down paths which have lead to weight loss or WLS, it's only right that we respect and allow other fat people to have that time too. What about the Slim or average sized people who stuff themselves with junk? Do they bother you as much? Nothing is wrong with being concerned about abundance of fatty foods and how easily accessible it is, but your concern and hate shouldn't be transferred to actual individuals. It's best to focus on your energy on your own relationship with food.