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We were just talking about this in another thread. We'd been poking fun earlier in the thread too, sigh. So tragic, so sad for his poor family. I heard on the news that his wife is in Cradle Mountain, and that it broke on the news before she'd been informed, I really hope that's not true. And I hope she's got her babies nearby, you'd hate to be separated at a time like this.

Well I heard THAT on the news too so who knows? I hope its not true.

For sure Dawg. I mean love him or not, he was passionate about what he did and there's worse ways to go than doing something you love. His wife apparently is trecking through Cradle Mountain in Tasmania, I think it may have broken on the news before she even knew about it.

Oh goodness, terrible news on the telly right now, Steve Iriwin has been killed by a giant sting ray whilst filming in far north Queensland. His poor family, he has two kids, one is a very young baby.

I've not posted here in yonks, but have been diligently plugging away. I'm up to 6.0 kms as my base level run now, have been working towards doing the 7.5km fun run as part of the Melbourne Marathon in October. Currently nursing an injury, just woke up yesterday with an obvious tear of the Achilles Tendon, no particular reason, I didnt even run on Saturday! I ran last night and its still there today so a few days off are in order, sigh. I'm beginning to realise I'm not really meant to be a runner, but I'm so darn stubborn! I can now run, outside, pushing Eliza in the jogger, and talk to her the entire time, so I've gotten LOADS fitter. I used to not even be able to walk and talk together!

Hi Kellie, I'm from Melbourne.

Oh, I eat (good quality wholegrain) carbs all the time, my diet is primarily carb based, I need them for energy and I dont function well without them. I've lost plenty of weight, have only 11kg to go to goal in fact. Pasta was and remains one of my favourite foods. Carbs arent the enemy, although by all means avoid them if you prefer a low carb diet or if they dont agree with you/your band wont tolerate them. But I'd suspect you ate too fast or ate too much in this instance. The only answer is to wait it out and dont eat again till you're feeling normal.

Hope so, makes yoiu feel VERY unsafe.

I've been absolutely terrible! But I've made myself stop now because I never thought I'd get below an Australian 16, since that was always what I wore when I wasnt particularly overweight. But sizes appear to have changed since I was last "normal" and I"m in 16's already and almost down to a 14. I just dont know WHAT size I"m going to be, its entirely possible I'll be a 12. So I'm STILL shopping madly but for stuff to fit me now, I've stopped buying and putting away for later. But I'm glad I did that last year or I wouldnt have had much to wear, lol.

I think its somebody who got banned playing funny buggers. Sigh.

Actually I do know of two people who have not lost weight with the band but both, for whatever reason and whatever demons haunt them, have been horribly noncompliant. Neither have been back for fills or aftercare, both still eat large amounts of food and make terrible choices. An unfilled band barely slows you down long term. But I think quite a few people get banded and dont lose weight the way they think they will and when you think about it that's not surprising. People are fat for all sorts of reasons, and many must be obese due to underlying medical problems and abnormalities. PCOS for instance can make losing weight extraordinarily hard, some people must have metabolisms that barely tick over, etc. So I think sometimes even the most compliant people may be disappointed with their weight loss.

I've often said once I scheduled the actual surgery my life changed from that point on and I didnt do the last meal thing. But that's not completely honest, whilst in the deciding phase, before I made the decision to go ahead, I ate like a pig for months. It was disgusting, and I was also motivated by not being quite fat enough at a BMI of 35 - well so I thought, turns out my doc will band patients from 30 or so, rules are much less stringent here in Australia. I was afraid to lose any weight though. It is normal, and I doubt they'd cancel, and at least you havent gained a ton of weight.

Speaking of popcorn, is it the same in America when you buy popcorn at the movies? Like you want to buy a small popcorn for your kids and they charge what seems like $15 for it, then they say, but it will be cheaper if you get the superduper large AND a bucket of coke AND a choctop icecream, all for $12.95, but no we wont give you a few containers so your kids can share it, you have to buy the super movie deal for all 3 of them, so before you know it, you've spent $50 at the snackbar, and have to carry 5 kilograms of popcorn, 3 buckets of coke and 3 ice creams that you didnt want, all to avoid paying $15 for one small popcorn? That really DRIVES ME ISANE!!! And no wonder all our kids are becoming obese. Sorry for the rant, lol, but I just wondered if this was a peculiar Australian custom or whether they do it the world over. I buy stuff in the supermarket and take it in now, they recently made a rule that you couldnt do that and had to change it back again because people stopped buying alltogether.

I didnt drink a single Protein shake through the liquid phase and I"m still here to tell the tale. I hate em, and I dont believe you need 10 million grams of protein a day anyway. I had juice, Water, yogurt, and loads and loads of Soup - real soup that I made and it was full of lentils and Pasta and meat and vegetables and I just blended it to varying degrees depending on my progress - with stock or a can of tomatoes. I even blended spaghetti sauce. I did fine, I lost loads of weight and I didnt keel over from protein deficiency. I took a liquid Multivitamin.

Hmm, mine is definitely easily felt, a hard lump, cant see it yet though and I dont have much more to lose. But its nowehre near as big as an egg.

I take a multi and I take fish oil or flax seed oil about 70% of the time. Fish oil/flaxseed oil is the only supplement I've ever taken that noticeably does something - my hair and skin are great when I take it and I feel noticeably positive and upbeat, not that I'm often anything else. I take my multi everyday but I'm not 100% convinced that vitamins on the whole do much except give you expensive urine. But I take it nonetheless.

Oh yes, I weigh every day, lol. wouldnt have the self control not to. If the scale is on the low end of my little range or I've lost, happy dance. I feel up and motivated. If its highish I know I need to work harder. It doesnt make me go "oh, stuff it, not working" and eat all day. It doesnt get me down, it just reminds me to keep plugging away at it.

I agree with that, I dont think its offensive. I dont think however tight you get your body is going to let go of the last bit of weight easily, for some people maybe, but generally the last bit is hard to lose. I have under 30lb to go too and its v-e-r-y slow. But at this weight, most people are light enough to consider some really heavy duty cardio, I'm running regularly and it really does make a difference. Step up your exercise routine and really reaffirm your commitment to keeping the weight moving off, consider a fill only if you think your truly need it, not simply to make the weightloss faster. You will get there and in the meantime, you must be feeling FABULOUS. You must be enjoying so many of the rewards and benefits of being normal weight already, so take heart in that.

Hi! Lol, boring is one thing it hasnt been around here lately.

Mine has been gradual and I'm happy with that. I really think for your health its best to keep your fill at the level where you can eat as much as possible whilst still losing, and my doc has been happy with a loss of as little as 2lb in a month. I wasnt though - I wanted more fill at that point. I do worry about long term health and the band, when you're eating less than 1200 calories a day very long term, its very hard to get in adequate nutrition even when you're faultless in your food choices. So to me, the looser you can be and still get away with it, the better.

Posts of our Lives ROFLMAO! Too funny. I admit it, I've read everything avidly. I made a vow to stay out of it but I did break it, I couldnt resist putting in my 2c once or twice. But really I knew nothing I said would add anything, and I really couldnt have said a lot of what I really thought. But I've been watching, cringing, giggling, sighing. Isnt it funny how you sit here and read it all - all the whilst thinking "havent these people got anything better to do"!

Oh, missed it all due to the time difference I guess.

I think its a head/band thing too, the band wont do it all by itself. But I would have agreed that my experience was ENTIRELY like yours until my last fill and suddenly I dont have that feeling that I can eat forever anymore. That was my 5th fill taking me up to 2.5. It is a matter of proper restriction, until this fill, if I stopped when I got full and then gradually went back to picking, I could get the whole meal in. I didnt often do this as a general rule because I shouldnt, but I do get paranoid about getting enough fresh vegetables, so if I fill up and havent finished my veges, I do in fact pick at them over time to get them down. But since my last fill, once I"m full, I'm full, there's no pushing it.

Perhaps I'll make myself unpopular, lol, but since banding my weight only fluctuates downwards. I have not experienced it jumping up. By that I mean for instance, I got to 90kg, then over a week or two, I may have seen 88.8, 88.7, 88.4, 88.6, 88.5, 88.4, 88.3, 88.5, 88.4, 88.2 kind of thing going on, I never get on the scales, see a weight and think great I've lost another kilo, I know it will bounce around a lot. I've never "put on weight" outside of the little area I'm currently bouncing round in. Probably lucky, because its not that I'm such a good bandster, hehe.

Did you forget your pill today?