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Totally different to a Csection. Although I found my one Csection quite easy to get over too. But nowhere near the limitation to movement etc that you have with a Csection. But its different because you have to get over a general anaesthetic and that does kind of lay you out for a few days. But I was back to regular mild daily activity within a week and certainly well enough for a gentle 3km walk the day after my surgery.

I have more lopsidedness than that with my natural boobs! I'd be supremely happy with a pair like that. Nobody would ever notice unless they were a) seeing you starkers and really looking for it. I can understand that you spent $8K on them and I'd be pissed off - I'd be more inclined to create a huge song and dance about getting my flipping money back than to go under the knife again though. They look great. You'd never notice it clothed and your DH is happy about them, so why on EARTH would you put yourself through more surgery? But I definitely dont think that it's acceptable for what you paid. I'd be seeking restitution in terms of money, not more surgery.

<p>Ah, Lucy, Tommy O didnt start it. I think you mean Lee4love1. But I agree with you. This Lee character is either incredibly, stupendously ignorant or he's deliberately trying to piss people off. One post I could handle, in fact I replied politely. But when 6 or 7 more appeared, I thought OK this guy is either a mysogynistic racist or he's trying to start a fight. So I had a bit of fun. </p> <p> </p> <p>TommyO, bless him, just proved my theory that the majority of men on this board are intelligent, educated, rational guys and wouldnt relate any better to this sexist bigoted rubbish than the women have.</p>

Your kids menus must be different to here then? Here on the kids menu is usually fish and chips, chicken nuggets and chips, hot dogs and chips, pizza, spaghetti bolognaise. Definitely not the kind of food you'd bother going out for. And often HUGE anyway. Just huge and stodgy instead of huge and gourmet. I never even order that crap for my own kids. I figure we're out, we're going to enjoy good food, something we dont cook at home and the last thing you need to do to kids is pollute their palates with bland processed food. Consequently mine are adventurous eaters - and I dont worry if they dont finish, which they never do. We dont generally do doggie bags anymore in Australia either - its against health regulations.

I love eating out. I dont have many problems with my band, I'm lucky, but I honestly think to go out, eat half or a third of what you order and stop because you're full, then worry about "wasting" money is seriously the wrong attitude. I'll gladly pay $15, $20, whatever for a night out with my friends, what I actually eat is irrelevant. Of course you can have something fattening now and again, but generally I'll try to choose an appetiser, something relatively plain that I know wont give me trouble to eat. I'll have dessert if I have room and feel like it, often I dont want it, but I'll just eat a bite or two till I'm satisfied. I'll always have a glass of wine or two as well. Life changing this surgery has definitely been but not in a negative way for me. Its freed me to totally enjoy food without being scared of it or controlled by it. A meal out is just that, a meal out. As long as you eat well 95% of the time it doesnt matter.

*giggle* I tell you what, I got "insode" his head on the other thread, and its darn lonely in here. Seriously bizarre. I cannot figure out if this guy is serious or not. First he wants a Filippino wife. Now he's perving on 11 year olds. Ick.

Oh, and I"m going out for dinner tonight. I just decided to write today off as a mental health day. That's the thing though. Once upon a time, I would have done that with McDonalds. Ten times the fat, additives and calories. Now my vices are basically wholesome foods. Red wine is good for your heart!

Allright allright - today for breakfast AND lunch I have eaten leftover dessert that I made on Sunday. Winter fruits poached in mulled wine. Its to die for - red wine, cardamom, cloves, cinnamon, honey, orange juice, and pears, dates, figs, apples and apricots in the slow cooker for about 4 hours. Its absolutely heavenly. It is fruit though right? For some reason its awfully hard to eat, it has a marked tendency to get stuck. I wont mention the huge dollop of cream I had with it both times! I'm not sure what's worse, the fact that I've eaten dessert for breakfast and lunch or the fact that its boozy. Still I guess its low fat!

Nothing special. I think I used to breath in 3 paces, breath out 3 paces. But these days on a long run, I dont even pant, I breathe normally. I get tired, yes, but my breathing doesnt get short and fast like it used to. I marvel at that. I can run now and it doesnt feel like heavy exercise, I get in stride, I dont feel like I'm pounding, its honestly as comfortable as walking normally. I can talk etc. That's what I mean. You can get fitter on machines, but you'll never get to that point where you can run and not breathe hard. You actually have to run for that. But take it as you're ready, nobody can go out and run 10 miles when they're just starting out, its taken me 18 months to get here. YOu'll get a very worthwhile workout inside on the machines until you're ready for the next step. Its just that the next step doesnt come without pushing yourself and working through the challenge.

Lol, that's if I wasnt married already too!

I agree, it comes down to love. If I happened to fall in love with a single father then yes, I'd marry him. But I'd go into it with my eyes wide open. There can be baggage and it can affect your new family. I have a couple of friends who married into that sort of situation and are happily married, very much in love but rather heartbroken about not being free to have as many babies as they wanted because there husbands are still supporting other families and cannot afford to provide for five or six children. Their husbands of course are honourable men who have done the right thing by ex wives. I've got another friend who's having all sorts of heartache with her husband's uncontrollable 15 year old son, who refuses to treat her or their home with any respect. Its not always an easy road.

Yes. Me, I can! Not in anything like the quantities or at anything like the speed I used to but I have yet to come across a food I categorically cannot eat, and I've got 2.9ml in my band. I dont see why its a problem. I get to live a completely normal and unrestricted life. Only without the 85lb that was getting me down. I make healthy choices most of the time, I dont eat a ton of crap like I used to, I try to stay away from unhealthy foods as much as possible and only have them for treats - nights out, holidays etc. My day to day choices are fine - if you believe wholegrain carbs are healthy that is. I've lost all my weight, past my goal being able to eat anything. I eat a lot less is the main reason, but also, just because I can eat something, doesnt mean I often do! I've learned a lot of self control, its ironic that it took me a band to work that one out but I've really realised, I have no one to answer to but myself and if I dont make those choices, then I have to live with the consequences.

I agree too. Although I will always emphatically deny that you have to give up ANY food, or count ANYTHING within reason to lose weight. Portion size has done it all for me. I absolutely have not given up anything but I have changed the way I look at food, its no longer the focus for me. I would still eat pizza if I felt like it, absolutely, but I dont feel like it very often at all anymore. In fact never. I still feel like chocolate or Cookies quite often and I still eat them quite often - probably too often. You can still have some vices and lose weight, you do not have to be perfect or conquer every problem you have overnight. And lots and lots of exercise makes up for a multitude of sins. I just figure, this is for LIFE. I do not want to diet for the rest of my life. In fact I never want to diet again. I decided that when I decided to have lapband surgery, and I've never given into the temptation to diet. That's done WAY more for me in terms of my attitudes and outlooks about food than any amount of calorie counting ever could. For me, dieting was dysfunctional eating behaviour - a comforting habit that gave me the illusion of control and was hard to ditch, but ditching it is the best thing I ever did. To me, no food is good or bad, there's a healthy balance and a way that you should eat most of the time, but absolutely nothing is inherently evil, nor will it completely derail your weightloss efforts once in a while.

With regard to ellipticals and the like, they can and do play a role in fitness but you absolutely cannot beat moving your body out there on the ground, under its own steam, weightbearing exercise for results. No machine will ever match it. The only thing that comes close is a treadmill (which I use regularly) and even still I hit the outside to train for an event and get a huge boost in fitness everytime I increase my outside running. Ellipticals are non weight bearing, you're not moving your body and even the resistance does not compare to actually moving on the ground. Great as part of a gym workout and especially great when you're heavy or injured, but shouldnt be the only cardio component of your exercise. They exercise your lungs but will never do for your body what running can.

We've talked about this a bit lately. What happens is that all the microdamage you cause to your muscles by working out causes a bit of swelling/fluid retention until your body gets more used to it. Its not fat gain so dont worry about it.

Yes, its not the subject matter that made me mad, its the tone of the posts. I suspect a troll as well.

I'd say the doctor just fed your family his own personal opinion and not one supported by fact. Not the kind of things he should really be saying to anyone but you. Doctors all have their biases and preferences and he may have reason for what he's saying, these things ARE possible but whether or not they are a high likelihood is highly debatable. But I'd be rather cross that he'd spoken to my family like that.

I can really identify with the tired thing. I am a human dynamo now, I can cope with so much, whereas it all got on top of me before. The house was always a mess, I was behind with my study, the kids couldnt find clean clothes ....

Ta ta *waves enthusiastically*

What a shame then that he makes himself sound so mysogynistic! Gee, first he posts that he's horny as all getout and wakes up with ah, let me see, what was the term "a stiff one". Nice. Still we're all grownups round here, we can cope with that. Then suddenly he's into imported wives/sexslaves/maids/nannies, didnt get the response he wanted there, so he tried younger women/older men, single fathers and now the black/white combo. Cant get a date within ANY of these parameters, gee now I wonder why? With all due respect, we now have a men's forum dont we? Since all us ladies are bitches and funnily enough dont respond well to fellows who suggest that because they raise the kids alone and do all the housework then the Filippino wife is obligated to have sex with him, why not try the idea out on the guys? Oh, yeah, perhaps becuase most of the gentlemen on this forum are also considerate, educated, polite, well spoken and probably wouldnt take these abhorrent ideas any better? This is just revolting. Could I most politely request Lee that you live out your sexual desperation and fantasies elsewhere? These are not topics for debate, you're not going to get a bite amongst educated people who are quite fine with the idea of mixed race marriages, same sex marriages and any other lifestyle people choose. That's not what you're debating. You're not coming across as open minded and tolerant, what comes through loud and clear is the nasty and twisted mechanics of whatever is going on in your head and the fact that since you cant find a mate amongst your peers and obviously consider women commodities, you can perhaps lump us all together in groups such as Asian, Black and White and perhaps pick and choose the best qualities that you are most looking for in a possession, oh, sorry I meant a wife?

He's a fruitloop Susannah, dont get him started.

If you find you cant eat healthy foods, then you may need an unfill. I do think there's a lot of people who are more sensitive to the band and more fill only equals less variety. I do eat regular food, nobody would know I was banded if I hadnt told them. I just look like I have a small appetite. I can get almost anything down at 2.9ml in a 4ml band, the biggest problem I have now is with a quick bite or forgetting to chew, and some foods are truly not worth the effort, they are so hard to eat. But if you cant get meat and Proteins down, I'd be thinking about taking a tiny bit out. YOu'd do better eating MORE healthy food than less softer food. You can always do the old diet trick of filling yourself up with extra vegetables.

The thing with training for distance is not to go out and run miles and miles every day and injure yourself. Even carrying an problem in one ankle, I've been able to keep running - because I know its an inflammation and not a structural problem like a torn ligament or stress fracture. My knees thankfully have never given me any problems. I try to do 2 short runs of about 4 miles per week and then a really long one - its with the long one that you gradually increase the distance by no more than 10% a week, since I have time I increase every second week. In between I do non running activity that still builds significant fitness, my circuit that I devised does involve a little running - but on a treadmill with a sprung deck, and I get my heart rate up hoiking a 20kg barbell and doing pushups. That way I still get fitter, get the exercise but give my body time to recover from running. The extra muscle I've built has significantly improved my running too. Running is about overcoming pain to me, lol. When I started I just ran 3kms, I refuse under any circumstances to stop and walk, even when I'm staggering. I'm probably insane. Its the challenge. I'm lucky too though in south eastern Australia (Melbourne), we have a very nice temperate climate and there's no need to stop running outdoors in winter. It doesnt snow here or get that cold.

I've got equipment at home, much more convienent and time saving for me, and I actually do it consistently, unlike going to the gym. I also like to spend a good long time on the treadmill and the queues of people waiting at the gym annoyed me. I do enjoy the gym and will probably join again one day when I have time. But I'll never stop running now, I"m hooked!

No, I didnt have much of a stomach, I always carried my weight more on my backside and thighs. I mean I did probably look 5 months pregnant, but it wasnt a "big" stomach. I also didnt get huge during pregnancy, and I think that helps, I"m 5ft 10 and have had 3 8 or 9 pound babies, I didnt get enormous because there's so much room in there - didnt even need maternity clothes till 25 weeks or so. I think that really really helped to preserve my stomach skin.