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I'd just eat it. 30 grams is easy to get in a day for almost anyone.

Many dont, I got lists and suggestions for the post op diet but since then I've been left to my own devices, which suits me fine, I hate hate hate being told what to eat, or what to do. I've done fine without a dietician, I've never felt I needed one. I always knew what to do, it was just a matter of pulling my finger out and doing it.

I'd be a bit worried by a nutritionist that dim. You'll lose a fair bit of muscle weight in your journey too - not in a bad way, you can improve the ratio of fat to lean muscle at the same time but nobody loses just fat. You absolutely cannot work out your ideal weight that way.

I tend to vary a lot, but its usually between 1400 and 1800 calories a day for maintenance. I lost well only about 1400 a day, but to lose any weight now (at more than 1/15th of a pound a week, lol), it'd definitely need to be 1200 or below. Very active, I exercise regularly by running but I do tend to rush around all day doing physical things - lots of housework, I'm the mother than plays ON the play equipment with the kids, shopping, heavy gardening, and I tend to take on projects like trying to paint the whole house in half an hour. Nonetheless despite the stress I cause myself by trying to be everywhere at once, it does mean I burn lots of calories.

When you truly lose fat, and keep losing it it naturally gets harder and harder. We all have an easy 30 or 40lb that will disappear time and time again, getting past that is the hard bit. Soudns like you've done that before. Pleateaus happen too, its a natural part of weight loss. I just rejoined the gym, a ladies only. It was bizarre, very little in the way of goals, I just want to add strength training regularly back into my regime and feel ready for the gym again as an adjunct to my running. I told the lady I wanted to lose 3kg, and to be honest, I would be happy at this point to lose 1kg every month, that's 1/4lb per week! That's how hard it is to lose weight now as compared to before.

Oh, broad feet. I am cursed with them. Like flippers. My poor daughter, all she wants is pretty cheap shoes like other 5 year olds wear. What she gets is birkenstocks, nothing else fits her. I am fine with running shoes, boots, birks, any sandal/flip flop and any heel now though, but flat dress shoes, forget it. It seems to be a heel puts allt he pressure on your ball of your foot, and doesnt allow the foot to spread out like it does flat. So hopefully for Eliza, when she's older and wants more adult type shoes, she'll be fine. But for now, its terrible. I couldnt even find school shoes to fit her!

Sometimes, always after we've been out for dinner and sat round at a table talking, I have had such bad gas pains that it did indeed feel like labor. To be blunt, they dont result in farting, lol, just agonising pain. Really really horrid, in tears type pain. I have never been able to figure out what causes it and at times have sat at a table and barely eaten in an effort to prevent it, but it doesnt work, it seems to be something to do with just sitting, like you do when you go out, yacking on and I suspect alcohol as a culprit for me. Peppermint tablets started BEFORE I go out minimises it. I havent been more prone since banding, but when I lie down at night, my abdomen is hilarious, the noises, growling, gurgles, its all gas, and its not my stomach, its in my intestines. This is ONLY since banding. It doesnt hurt, what it does feel like is a baby kicking, there's plenty of gas in there. Not that my story is any help, but I agree with you, banding increases gasiness!

I was banded December 05, for me, no unfill, weight loss just petered out and I have sat here at 72kg for about six months. I have kept up an exercise schedule, in fact am always challenging myself to get better and better and am training to do a half marathon. I'm adding the gym back in soon too. I look at my body now in terms of not weight but fat and muscle, I'd still like to change my composition a bit but I dont need to lose actual weight. My eating, hmmmm, I'm nowhere near as strict as I needed to be to lose, and I have phases of not eating very well - not pigging out etc but just eating too many non nutritious foods. But most of the time I just eat like anormal person. My restriction was always moderate and has loosened ever so slightly so I've not needed to mess with it. I do think though that I will always need some restriction to maintain.

I dont understand where the docs get their information from - all the charts say my ideal weight for 5ft 10 is from 138 to 175 lb so how on earth can 135 be "too thin" for 5ft 5? Everyone should weigh what they want but I really think doctors should refrain from putting their own personal judgements in there - and they often ease you towards a higher goal simply because statistically its less likely you'll reach a lower one. They dont know ANYTHING about you, how much you're willing to put in, where your body will like to sit etc. Everyone called me big boned before, but with weight loss its become quite obvious I'm not, at 5ft 10, 160lb and very fit, I *still* have quite a lot of body fat, by nature I could be a lot thinner. And yet the nutritionist tried to tell me that 80kg (over 180lb) was reasonable. I was still freaking FAT at that weight. Everyone's body is different, and different weights suit different people but you cant always tell someone's build when they're obese. Even that wrist measurement rubbish is just that - rubbish. I measured large framed by wrist (the nutritionist did it) at a BMI of 35, now I measure small framed! Just stop where you want to!

I'd like to clarify, I dont mean exercising through horrendous pain or injury! I mean the kind of stab down the back of the thigh pain that sciatica gives you with each step and I tolerate stiffness and feeling out of sorts (my back all kinked out) after a particularly tough session. Not OMG I'm gonna throw up because I"m running on a broken ankle pain.

Dont know, how bad is the pain? I run regularly, through quite significant pain which probably does not make me dedicated, it just makes me an idiot. But I figure that I have 2 choices, allow the anxiety about pain (and what might be wrong to be causing it) to rule and give up running and get fat again or realise that discomfort wont kill me and run anyway because I'm probably less in pain all round than I would have been fat. I suffer quite bad sciatic pain and did have very bad chronic heel pain too - couldnt walk when I got up in the morning. All in all, the increased strength and fitness and lower weight has helped the pain, so exercising through it would have to be worthwhile I'd say. And I visit a very good acupuncturist who keeps me in check, he's almost cured the heel pain and he really helps me manage my back. And I limit the high impact stuff - the running to 3 times a week and choose other activities that are lighter on impact another 2 or 3 times. Circuit training is really good that way, kills 2 birds with one stone. And I'm completely mental because I'm training to do a half marathon so the day after my long run (14 kms so far) I just accept that I need a couple of panadol to shut my back and hip up. It depends how bad your pain is. If its an indication of something really wrong that you could damage or injure further then of course, dont push it. If its a chronic whiny condition like my heel bursitis was or somethign unfixable like sciatica, then there really ARE benefits to remaining active despite the pain, exercise will reduce the pain overall probably. But if it has you feeling nauseous or in tears of agony, that's quite different to moderate discomfort.

I dont know, one thing I find with myself is that I've been thinking I need another fill, its almost a year now since my last. But in reality, I"m not eating like a bandster should a lot of the time. Of COURSE you can eat a lot of chocolate over the course of the morning. Which is what I did yesterday rather than eat Breakfast. User error. Another fill is fine, its just always good to have a good audit of your habits and work out whether its more restriction you need or less eating round the band. From what you say sounds like you're not worried that you're eating wrong, just that you're hungrier, which is probably a good time to start thinking about a small tweak.

Its different for everyone, one thing the lapband makes obvious is that there's reasons why people become obese aside from that they eat too much. Some people have the surgery and lose very slowly in those first months which to me (who lost fast then) is hard to comprehend. But people's bodies dont always work the way they should. But on a positive note, I had no hunger, took about 6 weeks till I did have an appetite, found the liquids, mushies solids transition very easy and lost about 30lb in the first 3 months, which was a good 1/3 of my excess weight. I lost more slowly than a lot because I was a low BMI to start with (35) but lost about 60lb first year and had lost 85lb by the end of year 2, which is where I have sat ever since.

I wanted to run.

I must admit, the clothes and shoes, I thought, no way, that's fake. I mean even if you were *only* 6ft 5, you'd be a freaky sight and would you go around with your tits hanging out and hooker shoes dressed like that? I mean talk about attention seeking, lol.

It does get harder further out. I must admit, I lost weight steadily if not fast, and easily. I thought it was a breeze. but 2 and a bit years on and thinking "oh, five more kilos would be nice to lose" - I jsut cant seem to manage it. I'm not gaining, I'm maintaining well but I cannot seem to lose a gram. But truly, I dont eat anywhere near as well as I did whilst losing. Its very hard to keep that up long term. If I didnt have a band, I'm sure I would have regained some by now - I've managed to keep a lot of my lifestyle improvements, but I allow a lot of extras in now that I really dont need. Its fine for maintenance, but not for losing. Could you use an adjustment? I think I could probably benefit from a little fill right about now, just a tweak. But I dont want it because I enjoy the freedom to do what a fill might prevent me from doing, lol.

WHat had you eaten? Could you just have had no fuel in the tank? The thing is with a lapband it doesnt make your body work any differently. Your body still has the same energy needs, the band just helps you manage hunger. A small snack before or just after your workout might make a difference.

Yeah, it definitely can take a few fills before it will actually STAY that way for any length of time. Only my last two (fifth and sixth) actually lasted more than a month. Not that it appears to have mattered.

Yes, you're right, thin doesnt automatically equal healthy by a long shot.

Oh, I dont know, I think it depends a lot on where you carried your weight. It seems to me that unfortunately the apple shaped people really suffer the most with deflated tummies and arms, whereas those who were more pear shaped didnt have really big arms or tummies in the first place. Dont ask me about my backside though, lol.

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To me, its to do with being able to buy nicer clothes, look good in them and feel good about myself. When I got banded, I had a BMI of 35 and made my decision based on how crappy I was starting to feel, and fear of what middle age was going to be like as I got inevitably heavier. However at the actual time I was banded, the preventative factor was big but it was mostly a cosmetic thing for me. It was all about how disgusting I felt, how much I loathed how I looked, how I couldnt present myself the way I felt inside and those are the things that I really enjoy now. Playing with the kids, doing jobs round the house, I could still do that stuff energetically, I was only 38 with a BMI of 35. And I didnt have any comorbidities like sleep apnoea by that stage.

To me it means that I can eat a wide variety of foods (including bread) in such a quantity (even if that's 6 cups a meal) that I lose weight when I choose mostly healthy foods. So If I'm eating 6 cups of lean Protein, veges and a bit of starch for lunch and dinner and 6 cups of Cereal for Breakfast but am losing weight and not PBing or having any band trouble, then that's a sweet spot. To me, it most definitely DOESNT mean half a cup of food, no bread, much reduced quanity, infinate care needed to eat to avoid PBing, fear of eating out, and the like. That to me is the definition of torture, not a sweet spot. that being said, the likelihood of being able to eat 6 cups per meal and still lose weight is pretty much zip, so it falls somewhere in the middle, maybe a cup a time, most foods tolerable with reasonable care in chewing and eating slowly, and weight loss occurs WHEN you take care to eat right. THe fact that I can eat pizza does not mean I'm not at a sweet spot there, it means I should choose NOT to eat pizza. And all that comes with a healthy dose of exercise! Hunger between meals means one thing to me, eat something! Have a snack. I just dont think its normal to go seven hours between lunch and dinner without getting hungry and trying to find a level of restriction that would achieve that for me would mean I couldnt swallow a thing. I get hungrier between meals than I did pre band because I dont eat as much but burn more energy. So I eat a snack and it keeps me going.

Dunno. I had pretty slow weight loss overall (probably 1lb a week averaged out over the whole 90lb) and havent got sagging skin and I'm 40. But who knows? That could be just me. I'm going to say something I will get ABSOLUTELY FLAMED for, lol, but here goes. I reckon you can pick a mile off people who have had fast weight loss on high Protein diets. It produces a very distinctive look, and I was quite happy to eat carbs and lose weight slowly thanks.

Ah, its impossible to reach consensus on this, lol. At the end of the day, you can weight what YOU want to weigh and its nobody's business but your own. But you have to also face the fact that in scientific terms, overweight is overweight is overweight so even if you feel you look your very best at say 180lb, if that's overweight for your height, then you have to wear that. YOu have to accept the fact that you ARE at higher risk for various diseases, its harder on your body than being lighter. But health is more than just physical and to have perfect physical weight at the cost of living on a horrid diet, exercising ridiculously, obsessing over food or becoming bulimic is hardly a healthy "all round" lifestyle. I think a weight you maintain easily that is less than obese is probably a reasonable goal. But I do find it a shame that people dont challenge themselves to do better - but that's my nature. I push myself pretty hard and wonder why others dont. Its also how you view it and what you think is attractive.Some people call normal weight too thin, skinny, bony, anorexic, I call it elegant, graceful or athletic. People call slightly overweight curvy, feminine and cute, I call it thick and chunky. If you're tall (like I am) I think its hard to carry weight because you tend to look big and boofy if not fat. If you're shorter, you can carry a bit of weight and look cute and curvy. But there's a million people around who would swear its the oppostite - that tall people carry weight well and short dont. You can only ever please yourself, and you're the only one that matters.