Jachut

Its a great feelingof accomplishment, isnt it? When I go up to the Goldcoast on Friday, I'm still tempted to change to the half marathon when I pick up my race kit and just run as far as I can. I've actually got little doubt that I could run it, I'm just a little afraid of what you've found Salsa, injuries, lol! I've been for a run in my new tights, SO much more comfortable. Definitely worth the money even to buy one pair and wash them every single time you run, lol.

The stuff in a violet crumble is honeycomb, so its crisp, not soft. Do you have Crunchies in the US? Its kind of the same but different. PM me you're addresses and I'll send a few over, lol.

Gonna try and see if the link to the photos works for you. I dont want to actually buy the photos, download them and post, lol. http://www.supersportimages.com/products/showbib.php?xs=474&s1=1264 As you can see, typical Melbourne, it pissed down the whole run, but it was a good run, Melbourne is so beautiful, very scenic running round the botanic gardens, up through Jolimont past the MCG and through East Melbourne, lovely, old and leafy. Anyway, the weather is my excuse for my beeeeeyoutiful hair. I am rarely seen without benefit of the miraculous bioionic straightener! You know, I've never seen a pic of me running where I actually look like I'm running, lol. I promise I was!

Well if its there when they go in they'll blast it away - they diathermy it and apparently they can still do that if its on the nerve as well. They sometimes have to dissect it out. It may not return, he thinks it may have gotten out of control as a result of the hormonal upheaval of weight loss and that I might be more stable now, and often it takes aaaaaages to come back after a lap. My sister has gotten 5 trouble free years after her last one. Given that I'm almost 41 and dont want any more babies, I'd probably have to consider a hysterectomy and removal of the ovaries if it were problematic but that's highly highly unlikely. If it were to keep regrowing, its almost certain I could control it by just being on the pill. That'd be funny since I had my tubes tied, lol. Guess what? I bought my first ever serious running tights today! Some groovy Adidas ones. I'm a cheapskate, I've made do with cheapo Target or Kmart lycra pants and leggings, I'm sick of the blasted things falling down (still got 2 pairs of size 16's and I'm a 12, lol). These are nice climacool ones, with the pocket for a gel. One sale, I really struggle to pay the money for these things. The physio keeps telling me to buy skins and I simply CANNOT pay $139 for a tiny piece of lycra. So I better break the 1 hour for my 10k on Sunday, with these fancy dacks and all.

There's a couple of things I miss. I miss the fat on my knees. I cant lie on my side in bed anymore, becuase my knees resting on top of one another hurts. Just out of interest, there's been photos galore of Victoria Beckham here, with a weird dent in her inside thigh just above the knee in several of those Which Celebs have had Plastic Surgery articles in the tabloids. Apparently that's a dead giveaway for thigh liposuction. If so, how come I have it too? I've never been lipo-sucked. I miss the fat on my chest too. Its absolutely GROSS when I like on my back in bed. Its all ribs, and a huge dent at the solar plexus and you can see my heart beating. It's completely gross. Of course that's because my boobs are lying under my arms when I lie that way. I want some more fat on my hip bones too. Everytime I go to the physio and get my lower back worked on, it kills because my hip bones arent cushioned and I'm black and blue the next day. And my face. I hear you Dawn. I really do look 40 now. A good 40 since I've always taken care of my skin in the sun, not abused in in tanning beds and looked after it. But I didnt look 38 2 years ago. Losing the fat on your face is a bit of a shame.

McMadame, I stopped dieting too, and it worked brilliantly for me. I'd tried it before, and been quite successful. I really did diet myself fat. But I knew that portion size/appetite was a problem and that I needed a lapband to control that. The combination of a lapband and never ever dieting again was what I needed. That and the exercise. The other thing I've found I've achieved this time is that I dont connect exercise with dieting. Its not a chore or a punishment I have to do for being fat. I dont only run when I'm being good, its totally unconnected to my eating. I'm not sure why that clicked with me this time. It just did. So I will still run even though I've eaten badly that day or whatever. I do think that avoiding dieting behaviour is a very effective tactic for lots of overweight people, I'm one of the ones that the minute you say diet, I"m thinking "what can I eat". Its actually quite hard work to learn to moderate your attitude towards foods like chocolate or cake or whatever your thing is, its very scary to allow yourself to eat them.

You didnt open a can of worms, dont worry. This was simmering in other threads and I didnt mean to single you out, its just that if you wonder why sometimes people arent just supportive like you would expect, there's frustrations there that lead to that. Its not your fault in any way and I did hijack the thread a bit so dont worry.

Thank you BJ, tempers get hot and I dont think there's anything been said that absolutely cant be forgotten. The written word is damn dangerous, its impossible to read the tones sometimes. Although if anyone read my posts as mean, I did feel just *slightly* that way, ROFLMAO. Some of em were mean allright, and they were meant to be :thumbup:. I'm glad we're over this. I guess I still hold the same opinions about there being certain personality types that are just more likely to get fat and less likely to be able to solve that. There are people more prone to whining and drama too. I'm never going to have much patience with them. But I realise now that its not my role in the world to sort everyone else out.

I feel as if here is where I must admit I ate about half a block of chocolate yesterday and no dinner! I am no saint. We're not supposed to be. Its fine to fall off the wagon but sheesh, in the first week or two? I hope nobody confuses tough love with me being absolutely faultless coz I'm not. I've got a sore throat today and I probably wont go for a run either. Falling off the wagon isnt the real problem, its picking yourself back up that makes all the difference. For which, I really dont understand why we need thousands of posts about this. Just do it people. Say to yourself "I shouldnt have done that" and move on. Its what I do and yeah, it does work!

Yep, I use it on DH when he's been away on a business trip. Keeps him honest.

Emu oil is fabulous stuff. We buy it by the litre here, lots of places to get it in Australia of course. It was simply fantastic for my son's terrible eczema when he was little, it's awesome mixed into your facial moisturiser, all the Omega 3's in it are great for your skin, I use a dab or two of it as I have frizzy hair that I straighten daily and its better than any expensive styling product, and if you rub it several times a day into any sore areas, it's a pretty good anti inflammatory too.

Nah, I think its over Froggi. I think we can CERTAINLY continue to discuss the issue, but not people specifically. Personally, I think its a really really really important one. I think its a huge part of the journey to self enrichment. I'd like to keep talking about it but I think in this thread and in the next week or two, its only going to end in tears. I've actually never ended a debate on such bad terms with people and I dont like it.

I truly would think that losing weight super fast is only really vital if your in dire straits health wise. Like if you're a heart attack waiting ot happen TOMORROW and you need to get the weight off fast. Many obese people have all the warning signs and comorbidities but are pretty stable health wise, they're not in immediate crisis, and a slow steady weight loss is MUCH healthier,. Fast weight loss can do pretty awful things to you too. There's tons of people here whose docs leaned strongly towards GBP rather than the band, and really its for no other reason than the lapband has not been done for as long in the states and they're not as familiar with the outcomes. Fast weight loss at first happens with GPB but at five years out, weight loss with both surgeries is about the same.

It was an idiotic thread to start, I take entire responsibility for that. I started it becuase I was majorly pissed off with being made to look like I was picking fights in another thread, not becuase someone didnt want to take my advice. That was retaliation pure and simple, not necessarily forbidden on R&R but it was always going to end like this and I should have known it. I too now have several people on ignore becuase well, I think they are passive aggressive types who will incite me to behave like this again, I think their situation is pretty hopeless and I no longer care to even try to help and because I think they're just incredibly nasty and I dont think I can trust myself not to keep dropping to their level. I'm really not very proud of some of my posts here. I defend my right to discuss this issue to the very end, but I agree it should not be about specific people. Personal attacks are not appropriate anywhere, and there's been a lot of that from all sides. I can apologise to the board in general for how this turned out, I dont feel big enough to apologise to people specifically. That may be childish but I dont. There's people here I never want to hear from again and I've taken steps to ensure that I dont. Now it appears this wont get back onto some sort of constructive discussion, I have my opinion, others have theirs and we dont know each other in real life and never will so it really doesnt matter that much does it? I think certain people know what I think of them and I know what they think of me so perhaps we SHOULD in fact end this thread. Stop trying to expain ourselves to each other? I dont want to hear it and I'm sure you dont. Sorry mods, for this huge mess. I cant even pretend it was meant with good intent, but once I got over my vent, it was actually interesting there for a while.

Argh, and that's just totally uneccessary too. I'm just trying to have the last word, which is really pretty pointless.

I'm a sweet tooth and the same foods - cakes, doughuts, Cookies. I challenge you to scarf down 3 donuts in a row once you're banded. I can guarantee you'll PB that out your ears, nose AND mouth. Its impossible. Cookies still go down great, I handle it like I did before. I dont buy them and if I really must have one or two, we make it a family thing, buy a packet, share them out, everyone has a reasonable treat but they're gone. I absolutely do NOT keep them in the house or buy them thinking I'm going to just eat one or two out of the packet. Same with chocolate and stuff like that. We had some tonight actually, its Saturday night here, we had a movie to watch, had a glass of wine and some chocolate. But we bought the 55g bars of Cadbury's and had a piece or two each, not a family block of chocolate. Dont eat Desserts, never have as a general rule, not unless its a special occasion. I've managed OK. When I do break out with my band, its ALWAYS sweet foods but I just decided I couldnt keep eating the way I was if I wanted to lose weight, so really, I stopped. And of course now that I do lots of exercise, I can get away with a lot more than I could before.

Well, calories arent that restricted with the band, not necessarily. I did lose at about 1lb a week, a bit more at the start, but I ate around 1500 calories a day all the way through. To me, that was a level of restriction which qualified as a lifestyle change, rather than a restrictive diet. Many eat far less of course though. Many STILL lose weight slowly eating less. Any weight loss at any speed is a great thing. of course you can have your band tighter and eat less, but that often means you have much more trouble eating a wide variety of foods, suffer more from vomiting and blockages, and even fall into the soft food syndrome where you eat the easy to eat foods, which are usually not the good low fat ones you need to be eating. Losing weight faster than 1 to 2lb a week is really not necessary, its not necessarily healthy, you run the risk of losing more lean body tissue, and of having loose skin, which is a problem for most people losing a lot of weight anyway. A year to lose 100lb is damned good if you ask me. I actually would call it fast! I also think that you need to lose it slowly enough to let your head absorb the changes as you go. Dont worry about it, use your tool right and you'll lose weight in a healthy and gradual way. Of course, the amount of exercise you do plays a large factor.

Twice to break a plateau and help DH with his weight loss efforts we've gone on Lite n Easy which is a home delivered meal system here in australia. both times I've lost weight fast, easily and really well on it. But we never keep it going more than four or five weeks. I get so fed up with being told what to eat, and banded, the menu just doesnt appeal to me so much anymore. I cant eat all of the food, and its so expensive, $125 each and we still have to feed the kids. The dinners get to me after a while too. But it gets my intake down under 1000 calories (since I cant get through the 1200 it provides!) and the weight FALLS off me. I'm seriously considering it one last time to get down to 67kgs.

Oh, so its a typo? I was having absolute hysterics at the name Van Wanger!! I was thinking SURELY not! Maybe a wanger only means what I think it means in Australia.... Sorry to hijack, I have absolutely nothing constructive to add.

I wouldnt do anything too strenuous for a while, 6 weeks probably. Ask me DH who was banded 3 weeks ago and is using this as justification to stay on the couch. Oh boy, sigh. I remember that port pain, I think it lasted a couple of months, I'd get sore if I'd done a lot, but it wasnt too bad and I cant remember the last time my port bothered me. Discomfort is normal at first,but dont ignore real pain.

You could always do the bath test to ensure that volume wont be a problem. Sit him in a bath and observe the testicles. If they float, he's fine. You and your band should be safe. If they sink, dont go there!

Yep, done all that and have the orthotics. Have 2 solid years of physio and acupuncture (which fixed my heel) behind me. Have had back CT's, MRI's, Xrays. There's nothing there to cause the pain and no amount of muscle/manipulation fixes it either. Its not really bad pain, its like having mild period pain in your back/down your leg the entire time. The only time it becomes "sharp" like true sciatic pain - that sudden bolt down the leg - is if I really do a lot of exercise. The thing that's tipped us off is that it really escalates at period time, and I've been having bowel and bladder symptoms which all get worse at period time too - painful urination, and horrific bowel cramps when doing no. 2's, they all go away when my period does. Given I've got a very strong family history of endo, that's what it probably is, either that or my backwards lying uterus is touching the nerve, or I may have a fibroid or something. I've got to have a laparoscopy to check for endo later in the year. I've had the gyn in up to his elbows, lol, and he can feel lots of nodules. So he's pretty sure I've got endo, just a matter of sorting out whether its made it through the pelvis and onto the sciatic nerve. They can diathermy it, and get rid of it, and it may or may not come back. He thinks the huge hormonal disruption of weight loss may be why I've gotten it now rather than younger, when both my sisters (who arent heavy) have had it all along. I did have horrid periods before I had babies, but having a baby often fixes endo. And of course, once I started pushing out babies, I got fat. Its frustrating coz its always there, you know. Its not strong enough that I need to rely on medication or anything like that, its just there, and when I overstep the mark by running too many days in a row or doing too many longer runs in a week it gets really sore which has prevented me doing the half.

hey, I just found my invite to join this, I must be stoopid. Yay. People who have similar interests. I'm starting to get really fearful of the main boards, lol. Who IS that idiot Jachut who started that Which Type are You thread? What was she thinking? Anyway, you guys know I love to run. Trouble is it hurts. SheSmiles, I so know the frustration and anger that it makes you feel. Its my back, not my knee. It is now suspected that I have endometriosis all over my sciatic nerve, there's no other explanation that we can find for my constant nagging back and leg pain. It makes my right leg feel like it weighs 400 kgs. It worsens with LOTS of exercise, like running four days in a row. So at the moment, I'm running. I'm doing lots of 10ks but that half marathon will only happen for me if I can ever solve this back thing because I cant do the training. I could probably run it tomorrow if I just went and did it but that's only asking for an injury. But running, how I love it. I still cant beleive that I can actually do it.

Hmm, maybe its a reason why some people are just not breakfast eaters and not hungry in the morning?