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then move to the love thread if so offended - or report the post. that's the options i see, really those who don't feel the same as you have the right to say so - thus this thread was created, or so i think.

ummmm - cause this is rants & rave section, we get to attack the "idea/topic" not the person (dont' want to get moderated now), so as stated there is a love fest thread for MJ in the lounge - have a party!

interesting concept. i had to "educate my trainer" on WLS & the band - which he was more than open to. he had never had a WLS client - so he took it as a learning experience for himself, rather than insult me that i took the easy way out. we "together" discussed nutrition & i let him know that while i valued his opinion - he knew i had a bariatric team that managed the scale & my health. i needed him to push / work me harder than i would myself and that's what i hired him for. you can get the band, but it doesn't come w/directions to the gym.... i'm not sure though even before hitting goal i would go to an exclusive WLS surgery gym, just like i wouldn't attend an all female facility. is there a gap for qualified trainers for the obese absolutely, and that might be a better direction to go -rather than isolate...but that's just my opinion.

there is actually a thread in the lounge - where posters were told NOT to post anything negative about MJ..... it's traffic is no where near this one & that posters wish was respected. since this is in the R&R - everyone gets a say. and respectfully disagreeing is not blocking someone from their opinion.

i'm really not going to dip my toes in this pond if you feel sharing childrens beds w/adults is fine. my mind can't even go there to have a conversation about it .. i respectfully disagree with you - i would have the law on him or anyone else that thought their grown self should be in any bed w/kids that aren't theirs. glouc - i agree w/you, his perversion is what i'll remember of him - not so much his music and frankly i have heard that repeated all morning long.

while i did quote you - i did not mean to imply "you" worshiped him.... to me it does not matter one bit if they were his kids friends or "his" friends. it's actually sicker they were his - not strage - ill. and the parents of those kids were just as ill. if some "random" dad did this, he would have CPS on his ass and his kids taken away. so i don't consider it really strange when if that behaviour when done by someone from the general public - they would have the law on them. again - very talented, very disturbed.

actually that's quite foul. i don't recall my dad jumping in bed w/my friends when i had a slumber party growing up. i have no skin in this game because i wasn't much of a fan, didn't grow up w/his music (have hippie parents). was he talented - yes was he likely abused - yes was he ill & disturbed - yes did he abuse little boys - i think he did i just don't get into celebrity worship, they crap the same way i do.

yesterday - nothing but swimming today - missed my spin class, so power walked on treadmill 50mins

my bad - was in a rush & forgot the most important ingredient.....4 roasted garlic cloves. i whip it all up in my food processor, lasts 10-12 days.

i've been adding greek yogurt to the mix to make it creamier.....also adds to the extra protein. forgot to add: i make a lg batch with 4cups of chickpeas 1/2c greek yogurt 1/2c tahini (sesame paste) 1 lemon - juiced olive oil, salt, peper - no measurement - just to taste

heck, i thought it was a summer cocktail......

yeah he did - LOL he's actually pretty generous and if i wanted new boobies he be all for it (really what man wouldn't) - but that is just not on my radar. i'm waiting till the summer is over for some lipo on the thighs (i have no desire to wear a compression garment in 105 degree weather:wink:). i have always wondered about tatoo liner. i must say i hate makeup in general. so on top of the botox i had eye lash exetensions put on - yesterday i had a "fill". i really love them.... well TGIF all, *sorry fanny if work is bothersome *congrats G4E! *kat you NOT old! *same to you ebony:)

yesterday - b- half sweet potato baked w/s&p, butter l - turkey burger with sliced avocado & pico s- approx 1oz wasabi peas d- pasta with spinach/pancetta/ricotta (bowl)

i know - i was really pulling for her. kat - sorry about the deaths in your family ((hugs)) i did catch your grand canyon pics, which were beautiful!!!

i got an email on it this am. point system - how many posts you make, do you have a complete profile, have you posted before/after, did you do a review on your surgeon.....etc, etc i just find it in extremely poor taste, IPOD is the Prize:(

off current topic - random ptjp: lapband member contest???? sorry mods/alex, i find it pretty tacky - sorry, realize might be unpopular but really.... get points for disclosing more infomation about yourself???

i eat hummus almost daily. i make it myself - so to add more Protein to it vs the store bought brands, but either is just fine. i use it as spreads or sometimes just a meal. rather than crackers or toast, sometimes i'll cut up a cucumber / pepers / carrots to get the crunch in.

much softer - not mushy, but a lot easier to eat. i get them at my 24hr fitness or online: OSTRIM Beef & Ostrich Meat Snacks (1.5 oz. Stick) here is the nutritional info ( i like the peper flavor ones): Ostrim Beef & Ostrich Snack - Teriyaki Flavor Serving Size: 1 Stick Amount Per Serving (% DV) Calories 80 Calories from Fat 15 Protein 14 grams (28%) Total Fat 1.5 grams (2%) Saturated Fat 0.5 grams (3%) Cholesterol 25 mg (8%) Potassium 650 mg (18%) Sodium 430 (18%) Carbohydrates 3 grams (1%) Sugars 2 grams

yesterday - b- half wasa cracker w/hummus, slice of cantelope l- 1 crab cake s- 3 slices of avocado on half wasa cracker s- ostrich jerky stick d- muscle milk banana cream ps

i can feel it. i can see it - it does stick out. beats the alternative - even though i complain

not at all - but i really have no fruit/veggie issues of any kind.

just stick with it! i bet when your assessed this wkend you'll be happliy surprised that you've not only dropped inches but body fat. i think it stinks that the pounds come last - but they will, if you can - play around with your calories, some days 1000 another 1350. shake it up a bit along w/your food choices. i know exactly how you feel - i think i should have lost 5lbs after sweating my buns off in a spin class, only to have gained. reason i have to take many breaks from the scale.

dh and i are getting a LOT of pool time in the afternoons/early evenings - does pool pong count as exercise?? today - weight training boot camp/30min walk on treadmill, plan on getting out to pool here shortly to do some laps and soak up the sun.!

116 is amazing !!! your right though how much "work" do you want to put in to get lower - i know i've peaked at my committment level w/food & exercise. if i want to eat the way i do - i have to work out ... i'm ok w/that i LOVE it - had 4 shots on each eye; 2 on the corners, 2 underneath and one shot between the brows. i can even still show expression - which i was worried about. beth - go w/your gut about what you want to do re: school.

yes! it is awesome, especially on 100 degree days like as of late. i make it with the small mozzarella balls, grape tomatos, fresh basil, olive oil, balsamic, salt/peper. yesterday - b- slice ww toast w/egg salad l - half grilled chicken ceasar salad d - other half of salad s - snickers ice cream bar *** they are all gone ***:thumbup: