heather1979

We cross-posted.

I assume this wasn't directed at me but if it was, I'm not attempting debate. I just want to see what you are seeing on the FB page.

Madam Reverie, Could you please link the page you are seeing this stuff on? I don't see what you see on Omar's FB page but I am not friends with him and can only see a few pics. Does he have more than one FB page? I'm only seeing pics of his kids and 1 pic of him in a suit with no tattoos showing. Thanks!

Duh! You really think he would announce his marital status? Duh! What an enlightening comment from such a mature person. As I said, he may very well be married but a group of us including a husband went out to dinner with him twice and had great conversation about our families since we all had kids. He didn't have a shot with any of us and still didn't chime in with anything about a wife or children. He did mention feeling sorry for his German Shepard that he rarely gets to see due to long hours.

Is that true? I don't think he is married unless he's separated. He works really long hours and we all spoke to him a lot and he never mentioned being married. Not saying he's not but I certainly didn't get the impression he had a family at home.

Sorry for the messed up post above. What I said to MX transformed was: And yet, knowing all of these negative things that you now use against Omar to discredit him, you were not turned off by them enough to avoid an intimate relationship with him while still a married woman. I find that very interesting and very telling. I don't think Omar is a saint, not even close. You certainly don't come out of this smelling like roses either. All of you should be ashamed of your behavior. She did not say the above paragraph as the quote box in the precious post implied.

. Well if the words out of his own mouth about this isn't proof, then the text conversations we had about his deportation status should be. I don't have to prove anything to you and as far as anybody claiming slander against me, Susan, Alex or anyone else who speaks out, well Omar is in Mexico and just as we who have been part of his game and also anyone who has had a botched surgery there, has no recourse neither does he against any of us here in the US. Turn about is fair play, but like I said, Omar told me himself about his time in prison, about his deportation and also about the gang he was not only leader of but also the founded of. He wears those suits and long sleeves for a reason, he wouldn't want patients to see his gang related tattoos!

To make the stay enjoyable and also to get us out of the hotel and walking around, Omar takes us all shopping, sightseeing, and out for food. While I was there with my sister we were grouped up with several other women and a husband. We all hung out together and it was a relaxed, enjoyable experience. I didn't see anything besides a little joking going on in my group but I did hear someone that had been there the day before I got there say that another lady would not leave him alone and kept joking about wanting to move to Tijuana to be with Omar. This person left town before I arrived so I didn't see any of that go on. It was described as very one sided. I don't understand coming down for surgery and getting involved with someone I'm only going to see for a few days but that's just me.

That's absolutely untrue. There are over 300 members of Team Illan and it is a very friendly and supportive place. I know more about the situation than I did this morning and I will say that I think the best policy for anyone dealing with patients is to keep them on a professional only level with regards to relationships. I know that at least one of the people who posted here today has been a huge Omar and Dr. Illan fan until just recently so I'm having a very difficult time with this whole turn of events. Those of you calling Team Illan members vipers and bullies might want to think of why some members are so passionately defending the team. It's because they know the accusers and their real story. They were friends and confidants and they know that they were not molested, harassed, raped, or pressured into a sexual relationship. I'm not letting Omar off the hook as some others are. I think it was unwise and possibly unethical to date patients and I hope that he refrains from doing so in the future. He is a good guy though. He's great at his job and helps a lot of people and he doesn't deserve this.

You have made threads discrediting surgeons in Mexico. You may feel justified in having done that and I don't know one way or the other whether you are but don't deny doing that. I'm sure many of us have read those threads. If we are going to go there, where are the apologies owed to me? Claiming I have discredited multiple doctors, that I have created multiple fake ID's, that Alex, Bill and Lipsticklady are all fake names I have created? Claiming I was fired as a coordinator, when I actually resigned? Where are my apologies?

So if an Dr. Illan patient shares their experience and says that they dislike the way this was handled, they are a bully and a fangirl? Real mature, people. I haven't bullied anyone or victim blamed anyone so please refrain from calling me names that are totally inaccurate.

Susan, I don't care enough about you to start a thread and complain about you. I don't know you and I don't want to know you. The only reason I'm on this thread is because my surgeon is being accused of wrong doing and not even by the "victim" but by someone who has nothing to do with it. I came here to share my experience with my surgeon and his coordinator and also to say that this thread is not the way to handle any of the issues you are alleging. Dragging someone through the mud in this manner is shameful and extremely immature. It reeks of attention seeking at it's worst.

Heather, I challenge you to go back and quote where I used the word "rape". I believe you will have a very difficult time doing so, because I did not. I also challenge you post links to all these other threads where I have "trashed many other doctors". I posted about my experience with my surgeon, that was it.

Ha! Not sure how that emoticon made it into my post but I'll leave it.

I completely agree with you here. I don't like the idea of doctors or their staff dating patients because that's a line that shouldn't be crossed, in my opinion. That said, Susan used the word rape and spoke of sexual harassment and things of that nature and I really think that she has no business posting things like that. If the victim of such behavior wants to post it, that's their business to do so. It's difficult to see something like this written about your surgeon and their coordinator when a) you've had an excellent experience with them, and Susan has trashed many other doctors on this site for various reasons. It just seems so fake and unprofessional on her part. I think that's where the vitriol from some of Dr. Illan's patients comes from. Certainly not from a stance of victim blaming.