Gone4Now

Holy moly....I clicked on the thread title instead of the "last page" shortcut and started reading this thread again from the beginning. LMAO I love it. Can you believe it's been going on since 10-31-07? I think the most I've been away from reading it was maybe a week? That's why we all feel so close! I divulge more of myself to ya'll than some of my friends, and most of my family! :tongue2: I'm getting goofy nostalgia here...

It's my precious...mine....

I can't wait!!! I WILL be at goal! So far, what's been getting my butt to the gym has been the wedding... Now, past that I have another goal to keep! re: the cookie...I dunno! I can't picture it, other than peanut butter is a lot, and she made them kinda thick and big. Mmm...they were good, too, but not O-good! :tongue2: One more day and it's a 4 day weekend for me!

You are right! I know everything you say makes sense. So, why can't I bring myself to do it? I have limited time with her...and also DD's. I feel that it's a good first step, but even seeing her once a month sometimes is too much. We're having lunch together today, and I'll see her often this week since my aunt is in town. I have to choose restaurants w/soup because when I'm around mom I tighten up from the stress. Which, of course has her questioning my band, from "Why did you get that thing? You can't eat anything." to "Oh, you poor baby...what's wrong?" Nothing I say convinces her of anything, so I just keep my trap shut. One day I'll snap!

Yes! I'm up for skydiving at the get-together! The non-crazies can stay on the ground and get blackmail pictures as I smack the ground and bounce, then smack and bounce, smack and bounce, until I settle in a small heap over the body of the person who once was a tandem skydiver instructor...

DD is out of her first summer school session and home during the day. She made peanut butter cookies, and taped herself making them! (She's a little Rachel Ray wannabe.) So, we have low-fat peanut butter, she used splenda, and 1 egg - they are sooo good. But, we're watching it, so I told her to sit down and go over the calories. 260 calories for one! She was shocked, I was shocked...we were all stunned. We'd already eaten one each...well, sucked it down, really. So, DH ate them and she and I had fruit. I just wonder what it would have been if I didn't buy lowfat stuff, or splenda. I had to redo the math a few times!

Wow, Susan! I'm glad you stood up to it! No one should be supported after doing that. My grandfather is the one who molested my mom and my aunt. I didn't know that until I was in my mid-20's. My mom finally broke down and told me. As a kid, he was my EVERYTHING. My dad had gone and we lived with him and my grandmother. My grandmother hated my mom, but mom was "daddy's little girl" the whole way through. I found out later still, that my mom went along with whatever he wanted and never told anyone. My aunt, however, told immediately. My grandmother was going to leave him, but the kids asked her not to and she stayed. WTF? But, he never touched me or anyone else - that I know of! I look back now and hate that I have to reconcile what he did to how wonderful he was to me. AND, on top of that, I wonder HOW my mother could put me in that situation? He was certainly capable of it! I remember she ALWAYS would ask if he touches me, if he kisses me and I was always like, "EW No...He's PawPaw!!" How ironic that that she made me live with a molester, but it was my babysitter's husband who molested me the most. I'd go there in the mornings and after school. And, sometimes at night when my mom had dates. I was like my mom - I never told anyone. The other girl that was there was a little older and she told. The police questioned me and I still said no...When mom and I had the talk about all that in my 20's, she said she had no idea. I wonder if I was that good at lying, or if she just didn't want to believe it? I've told DD that if anyone - my DH, her pawpaw, a teacher - ANYONE can be "that guy" and if anyone does touch her she is to tell me immediately. I can't be there 24/7 and I have to instill in her it's okay to tell me. A few weeks ago a teacher at her school here in Houston was arrested for taking indecent pictures of girls. We saw him on the news and she was shocked. She said, "But he's so nice!" It was perfect opportunity to show her that molesters come in child-friendly packages.

g4e - funny about the ladder. I used to be such a dare devil, but the other day I tried to climb on the roof to take care of some branches and I COULDN'T. I just couldn't make myself do it. I was always a little punk kid climbing trees and such, and I just froze! That's why I'd WANT to skydive, but someone would have to push me. Or, have me be tethered to someone who just drags me out. re: 4th - I'm so happy that there is a burn ban here in Houston. I usually go all out, spending hundreds on fireworks, and this year I have a legal reason restricting my funding.

Ahh...that explains a lot. I'm all for adoption, just not under these circumstances. Poor kids. It's so interesting how many people have been abused. In my own family, I was (a friend of the family from the time I was 5 until about 7, and then later again once by my mom's uncle.) I found out later that my mom was, her sister, my grandmother, and who knows who else!? It's sick! What the hell is wrong with people? I've always said that if anything like that happened to DD, I'd torture the bastard, then end him. The body would never be found, and I'd never look back. The damage that is left in the wake of these a$$holes leaves me disgusted and, yeah...full of hot red hate. I wouldn't want the jerk in jail. I'd want him dead. And, generally, I'm a happy chick. I love life, and I love my life. I have bumps like everyone else - but overall, I think I've put a lot of the past behind me and moved on. But a sicko like that? Just the thought of someone doing to DD what was done to me, and I snap inside. I can easily picture MJ being creepy and doing things he shouldn't. Perhaps I'm projecting my own experiences, but there is no way in hell I'd let DD sleep in the same bed as a grown man - or woman even.

I'm an animal lover, so don't judge too harshly when I say this: I would hope it does bite me, so that I would be the one taking care of it since they won't. My aunt had 2 dogs. Brother and sister German Shepherds, and the sister was the sweetest dog ever. The brother...POS evil dog. It would bite anyone who wasn't my aunt, her son & husband, or my brother. They muzzled him 24/7 if people were there because he was Houdini and could chew through anything to get to someone to bite them. Several times he'd barge through whatever gateway they'd constructed, knock me over and be at my neck in an instant! If it weren't for the muzzle, I'd be dead - several times over! I think they should be willing to do more to protect their guests and family. If not, would a hotel be out of order? It's not really worth the risk of a) getting bitten and :thumbup: the family drama. Looking back on our instances, I don't think a muzzle was good enough for our family menace. They should have had better training and if that didn't work, a proper home for a dog that vicous. A family isn't the place for that type of behaviorial issues.

Oh, yeah...seeing the kids w/out masks makes me wonder - are they his? Has it ever been biologically proven? To me, they don't have any of his pre-surgery features, and it wouldn't surprise me if he'd bought them.

I know! Even during the shows we normally watch, they'll be a little tribute icon in the corner, or during the break a news brief will flash on. DVR/DVD at home - and CD's on the way to work.

'zactly! Word for word, that's how I feel. (p.s. - Apples...are we twins?)

Still lurking...still doing bare minimum, but working on shedding the "I really hate this" feeling I get when I have to go home and then back out to the gym. I promised DD, so we WILL go every day during the week, or do something for 30 minutes at home.

I usually do okay with salads, soups, or even just a glass of milk. Going out is a lot cheaper than it used to be, with the exception of the salads. Why are salads more expensive than the steak???

Yanno...both our trips to the studo made me think that the economy is seriously wacked right now. I don't know what to believe. Over 100 people just got laid off last week from work,and yet that studio was HOPPING busy. And, in our community where we're buying, the lots are mostly gone. A month ago, when we picked out our lot, there were a few dozen lots available. Yesterday - 3. So, people are buying...but they're also losing their jobs. How does that work? I admit it, I'm politically and economically dumb. I don't know the details of much - usually just enough to sound smart. So, this equation really has me taking a double take. Um...I'm also REALLY hoping they pass the $15,000 help for non-first time homebuyers. I'm getting really jealous of folks who are getting $8,000. My #1 sin...jealousy. If that passes, we could have lights in every room! LOL ...imagine that.

There are definitely times where I need help. I was thinking of overeaters anonymous, just to get back on track. Of course, I've been losing lately, so maybe right now I'm okay? I dunno. My friends and I had lunch at Fuddruckers yesterday. They got the kids meal burgers and I got the grilled chicken salad w/dressing on the side. I didn't WANT to, but I had just weighed myself and really wanted to be good. And, I was talking to them, so really only ate one piece of the chicken before I got the stuck/full feeling and had to stop. Afterwards, they lined up to get their kids meal cookie, and I told them I'd wait outside. I just saw that big ole chocolate brownie staring at me and I knew if I saw them getting the cookie, I'd get the brownie. I'm nothing if not supportive of my friends! :tongue2: LOL In all seriousness, though, I ended up feeling like the ass. I felt kinda left out because I wasn't eating a burger and fries, and I felt left out from not getting a cookie. I was being GOOD, and I felt like third wheel.

:tongue2: I work with a lady who is late by about 2-3 hours. Every. Day. I'm usually 5-10, but I rideshare with my DH, and he works later hours...so I'm usually at work longer, even though I arrive later. Besides...that's my schedule. There isn't really a time to be here every day, I just told them I'd be here at 7, so I feel like I should be here at 7. DH, however....well, that's a different story. If we need to be anywhere at a certain time, I tell him 1/2 hour earlier! He's always late! To everything!

Oh, G4E- what a mess! I am keeping you in my thoughts, and wishing the best for you. re: ER fee - grrr...Bastards.

He was a cutie! I remember his thriller album cover...CAYOOT! My DD saw the pictures from when he ws her age and she said, "He was cute!!!" But, outside isn't always reflected in - and vice versa. My opinion, which is SO popular, is that neither is okay. I really don't like to see it anywhere. Okay, anywhere in public. Okay, anywhere in public that I didn't pay for. Good point. Maybe that's why I'm so disgusted by it. I loved him for a short time when I was a little girl, and then when I grew up and could see the freak-a-zoid he'd become, my heart broke a little. Then, he molested children and I am anti-molestation, personally, so that ended ANY sympathy I may have had. Agree with the first part! As a fan of all music, I like it all. There are some lyrics that go to far, and I wish would no longer be a part of mainstream society, but I don't see that happening. LMAO. Sooo...calling someone names when they're alive is better? Personally, I think covering up someone's sins because they're dead is worse than calling that person a bastard when they're alive AND dead. I'm not inconsistent or hypocritical. I believed what I said about MJ last month, last year, the last decade. I'll believe it tomorrow,and next week as well. Again, I began this thread in order to voice my opinion - that he was a molester, a freak, he endangered children's lives, and all he ever was WAS AN ENTERTAINER. He sang. He danced. Big whoop. Why? Why does being dead change the acts they did while alive? (i.e. - Hitler...?) I'm not an attention whore. I don't normally post things like this. I appreciate your judging me, though, because it shows how hypocritical the MJ lovers are. Of course, that's just redundant... My daughter was never dangled over a balcony, never slept in a strange man's bed, never has been blinded by famous people. He was just another man, that's what she was taught. People die every second of every day. This man wasn't any more special than the other famous-four that died this week. You know nothing about me except for the following: - I talked smack about a dead guy - I don't like child molesters - I believe kids should be put first, - I do not think celebrity status has any bearing on decency - I was/am fat - I have a daughter - my age (if it's in my sig...is it?) - ??? am I missing anything? Point is, based on the list above, you think I'm a small person, an idiot and an ass? Even if the list above represented the entirety of who I am as a person, I would still say someone with those beliefs would be a good person. The list of grievances that I have against MJ came from his own mouth, not tabloids. I don't read those - that was an assumption on your part. IMO, he proved himself guilty when he paid 22 million to keep the family quiet. Perfect...worth repeating. :thumbup: Again, worth repeating. LOL at the old part. Yes...again, I really do think that's why many of us are upset. Also, we saw the potential for greatness and he disappointed. It was a sad transition, but certainly not worth the glowing adoration the media is STILL on and on about. And, now I heard that there are people who comitted suicide? Really? True that opinions are important and absolutely EVERYONE has the right to express it. (Or maybe just the ones that agree with YOU?) I have been hateful towards MJ. A performer whom I didn't like when he was alive, and I don't like better because he died. I don't glorify death, or anyone because of it. What I'm not getting, or understanding, is the personal attacks ya'll are making on ME? You don't like what I said, and you call me names, and bash my words. I don't like that MJ dangled his baby, but IT'S OKAY FOR HIM, because everyone makes those kinds of mistakes. I don't like that he slept with small boys. BUT IT'S OKAY FOR HIM, because we don't really know that true - even though he admitted to it. Why are you making excuses for an entertainer that you didn't know, and bashing a fellow bandster that you have more potential to know? :thumbup: That's funny. I haven't gotten the emails! It's usually hit or miss with my service. And, I agree...I can agree to disagree, but as long as the love-fest continues, I still need an outlet to vent to. :smile2: Worth repeating...thank you.

I would start an email chain...maybe get an email account for responses, since you'll have tons. Put a picture of the locket, but don't describe the contents. I get the same email chains over and over and over...just start w/your friends, maybe ask them to forward it on...? Or craig's list - do they have a lost and found? It is commendable that you're doing that. A lot of folks wouldn't care. :tongue2:

I SO want to go bungee jumping and skydiving, but I think someone will have to push me once I get up there. I don't think I could jump. Had some bumps over the weekend with our house. We are having one built, and I'm so disgusted with the builder. The base price was very nice, but NOTHING is included. You want lights? Oh, that's an upgrade. Really? Lights? There are few little things here and there...The standard options are crappy, so of course people upgrade. I was expecting to put about 15% into the house on the upgrades that I would LOVE to have, and now 1/2 that cost is going to things like LIGHTS. Geeze. So, I'm ready to get my earnest money back and say f off, but DH is really set on getting the house. So, I think we're still going full speed ahead with it. I'll just simmer the next few months, move into my house and then love it for the rest of my life - even if it kills him, er, me...

:thumbup: LOL I hate trashing the religious folks, because, well - as many of you may not know or believe, I am one of them! But, when they're like: "God is love, Bitch" I tend to believe they're a little bit disingenuous.

Way to not judge in a judgmental kind of way.... Do you get brownie points for judging the judger? I'm not a child molester, so I'm okay with living longer. I'm pro-death penalty and pro-abortion, and pro-natural death of scumbags. Curious...Do you step on ants? Do you eat meat? Or is it only human life you care about? I wouldn't care. Do YOU care that much about what other people say about you? Like Hitler...Saddam? Are these people that you would rather be alive? LMAO Please don't apologize!!! I don't mind differing opinions. I just don't understand how ya'll come to that conclusion, and I really just needed a break from hearing how great he was. I don't THINK he was great, and I really do THINK there are people who are better off with him dead. His kids, for one. That's awesome. Beside that whole evil/respect life stuff in the bible, does it have the little vomit guy? He's a cutie. I guess the law on respecting death doesn't really cover how to make fun of them after preaching to them that judging others isn't godly... oh, Hell...Who am I fooling - you fake bible thumpers always get me giggling.

On the contrary...I happen to think that little piece of information is the tidbit that seals the deal for me on why I believe he's guilty. He paid MILLIONS. Millions would buy my silence, knowing that the damage was already done and I'd have to get therapy later anyway. Everyone has a price, and 22 million...yeah, that's close to mine. Yeah. REALLY. #1 - Death doesn't earn my respect. Any jackass can die...oh, wait - one just did, didn't he? #2 - I won't give a shit - I'LL BE DEAD...and if there are people who post on some site, "Ding dong the witch is dead!" I still won't care. I'll still just be dead and not caring about anything anyone says of me. Really? Because your opinion that I'm rude was kept so respectfully to yourself. ...oh...wait....there's more. Oh...there it is. You, respectfully keeping your opinion to yourself. I will! I am! And, I'll have fun with the creep-lovers who keep feeling the need to correct my opinions. You're right...hate is more fun. How do YOU feel after posting here a few times? :thumbup: Yes! The justice system got it wrong both these times! But, money buys freedom. All you gotta do is get a catchy phrase, or a cute rhyme and you're in the clear. Being dead doesn't mean anything. He's dead....good! Little boys can breath a sigh of relief. I am HAPPY he died. When I heard it, the first thing I said was GOOD!!! I think I through out a Woo! too. I didn't just start bashing him...I have bashed him since he first started to go weird. MJ Lovers have their place and I have mine. I AM respectful because I will not post negative things about him on your thread. I want you to go there and love, love, love away. But, yeah...it's kind of a quick read, huh. When you can climb on a soap box and teach manners to a stranger, it's much more fun than gathering with a bunch of people who are milling about MOURNING the loss of a celebrity they didn't even know. That would get boring fast.