Babbs

If the scale is moving in the right direction, it's okay Sometimes it's even okay if it's not.

And I apologize I just noticed I just posted in the guys room But I still feel ya

I have to do that with myself ALL THE TIME. I was having one of those days at the gym the other day, too. I hadn't slept well that week, I gained like a pound and a half, and felt like a big, sluggish, tubbo. I was thinking the whole time on the treadmill "I don't wanna run todaaaaayyyyyy" and in walks this guy who looked like he had cerebral palsy or some sort of neurological disorder, with braces attached to his arms helping him walk. He walked over to the weight machines in front of me, gingerly setting his braces aside to start working out on the machines. I started running on the treadmill. Perspective, man.

I found early out it was good to listen to our bodies as far as what we needed. I would get RAVAGED for Protein sometimes and cave and have a tablespoon of Peanut Butter. I would end up losing the very next day. Never failed. The hardest part of this whole process is walking that tight rope recognizing the difference between head hunger and real hunger, and satisfying that hunger and not just grazing. At 21 months out, I still struggle with it. And I feel the real hunger more frequently now, too.

Sigh. Here we go again. I put myself on a self imposed "time out" every once in a while, but I don't go around making a fuss about it. I wish you nothing but the best. You just gotta let shit slide sometimes and move on, you know?

In my opinion, as far as humans go, you're one of the good ones. And that's saying a lot coming from me because I hate everyone.

And she stands out to me as someone who will speak her opinion openly, honestly, and graciously. Not every person is going to like the communication style of everyone else and that's OK. But trust me when I tell you, you will NOT be coddled by @@Babbs . She will give you solid advice every time from the viewpoint of someone who has been there, done that and is successful. I'd much rather hear it from her than someone who has no clue what they are talking about and coddles you along the way. Well then, hear from me. I am 5yrs out (almost longer than both Babbs and Lipsticklady combined), and reading some of these responses---on a "support site" from so called "vets" reminds me of freak'n high school. We have the "freshmen" who are get beginning their journey--unsure, a wee be frightened--looking for any kind of advice or jester to help them feel like they "belong" and welcomed. Then we have the "BULLIES" who seem to take some kind of perverted pleasure in "one upping" every freshman, just to inflate their own egos. Just be humane. Corrective criticism can be given without "wounding". Every question, no matter how many times it has been asked in the past, is a realistic concern to someone just starting their journey. It is not--or should not be our goal to ridicule just for bragging rights for "smoking that one out". None of us are here for another's private amusement or to be the butt end of an ongoing private joke. It hurts, and that is NOT what we are supposed to be doing here. I think some have forgotten that this site is NOT for their own shock entertainment If you can't offer some kind of affirmative advice or just a kind word, then just keep your snarkiness to yourself. The "freshmen" don't need your "private little jabs", and I for one who has "been there, done that, and buried the horse I rode in on" in terms of sleeve surgery am just plain ass tired of it. If you can't improve upon the silence---then don't. Prayers going up---for all of us. Ha! That's rich. This coming from someone who supposedly "ignored" the fact that you were even sleeved by your own admission. What the hell does that even mean?? I'm tired of seeing your passive aggressive snarky-one-minute-then-praying-for-you-the-next posts anyway. On ignore you go. Bye, Felicia.

This is the way I eat, also. I stay away from Frankenfood as much as I can and stick to smaller portions of the real deal if at all possible. More satiating.

You guys realize what you're going through is all temporary, right? That what you're going through now will be different in a week, a month, a year? It will get better, I promise. Just hang in there.

@@con con So by your own admission alcohol had nothing to do with your weight regain before? You chose to abstain. That's awesome. Some choose not to and embibe in moderation. That's awesome, too. What works for you isn't exactly what works for everyone else. You do you.

THIS. Exactly. And I think in his own, tough love type way, is what Steve was trying to say. I had my first drink at 4 months out at around Christmas. A Bloody Mary ( tomato juice and celery are healthy, right??). I drank half and didn't even get buzzed. Went to Hawaii many months later and had some Mai Tai's. I was close to goal at that point. Now below goal and maintaining, I enjoy a nice glass of red or a Bloody Mary occasionally. It's all about finding the balance that works for you. This works for me

That's always the best part...leftovers for days! Yeah, it's hard when you get sick. I found it fairly easy early out because like a lot of others, I stuck with Soup if all else failed. Now at almost 21 months out, I feel like an almost normal diner now. I can eat anything, but always need a doggy bag unless hubby and I split the meal.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard....

You do know WLS isn't for everyone, right? And telling her that WW's won't work for her and WLS is what she needs is actually quite presumptuous.

@@tobysgirl Holy cow you can go back and find me complaining about losing too slowly and stalling constantly! I finally decided to just worry about what I could control and not what I couldn't and moved on with my life and guess what? I got to goal! And now I'm maintaining about 10 pounds below it for like 9 months! We are all so darn impatient with the process and cause so much undo stress on ourselves, it tends to de motivate and sabotage us. If we just learn to chill and work our programs, we realize that we will get there. And then the hard part starts.....

Go ahead and put me on ignore if my posts are "triggering" you. To the OP, I apologize again for not knowing where I was posting and good luck with your upcoming surgery.

Yeah, it depends on the Protein and the denseness. So the way it's cut could be a factor, also. At 20 months out, it STILL depends on what type of protein it is or even what time of day it is on how quickly or not I get full. It's actually kind of a weird phenomenon.

@@ajg91342 I'm sorry, was I speaking to you? I apologized to the OP. I really don't need your 2 cents who ever you are with your 1 post on this forum. But thanks for your input. I'll really cherish it.

You're preaching to the choir. I'm a Realtor. Need I say more?? And no, I'm not one of those Realtors who don't ever call you back. I pride myself on returning emails, texts and calls to clients and others I deal with in the business. Unfortunately, most others can't say the same.

I apologize. I didn't realize you were in the process of getting approved for surgery. I do understand the numbers ARE important during that time frame for insurance purposes. No need to get shitty with me.

If I knew your struggle this week?? I've had the surgery too, how would I not know your struggle?? I'm no different than you are. Except I've learned not to let the numbers on the scale rule my entire life......

Good girl. Step away and just continue to do your thang! Also realize your losses will slow down a little, too. You're not doing anything wrong, it is what it is Trust the process!

It actually more common for our bodies to have a 1% variation. You can't expect to weigh the same when you step on the scale morning, noon and night can you? I weigh 2 pounds more in the evening than I do in the morning. Why? Water retention, eating all day, excersise, hormones, you name it. I've fluctuated up and down 3 pounds for almost a year in maintenence. You get used to the fluctuations. It's just our bodies doing thier thang.

What Jamie said. As frustrating as it can be, just keep calm and trust the process.

Yes, it's a stall. Won't be your last, either. Like Jamie said, stay with your program and it will pass. If it's going to drive you crazy, don't weigh as much so you don't see the scale at a standstill. Also remember you may still be losing inches instead, so get out the tape measure!