bearman99

WOOHOO!!! That is fantastic. Gratz man! It is exciting and I am glad you shared your fantastic news.

Thank you. I appreciate your suggested rules of the road from your perspective.

Tired. Emotional. Relationship issues. food to numb. Food the old friend. I know I understand. I am sure we all here understand. How could you avoid it next time? Remove the emotion, forgive, clinically look at the event and seek to answer the how to avoid in the future. Then this was a learning event.....but easy for me to say as the white hot burning emotions are not mine. Get help if needed. I know I will need help in the very near future.

So I had my final requirement fulfilled today by attending a bariatric support group. I was the only Sleeve amongst a large group of RNY's. I was also the only newbie. It was interesting they didn't hear Gastric Sleeve because 30 minutes were the old dogs showing the new dog the tricks of RNY..... <sigh> I know their hearts were in the right place. Man o man though the stories of all the puking were a bit gruesome. Anyways, in 8 days I will be sleeved.....yay!

On behalf of all bald guys we are insulted.......... Not really. I have dropped only 20ish pounds and my payroll lady did the inquisition on me....I was preparing for this in the future NOT PRESURGERY. It floored me for a minute. It was very unexpected and a prelude to when I get down in weight further. I like the outrageous lies solution. I will prepare the most evil twisted responses....this could be fun!

We are all on the edge of the proverbial seat....wishing you safe & speedy recovery.

This daily posting on the trials/tribulations is very helpful Luminous. 9 days to my surgery. Thank you. I will try to do this also for my journey.

For what it is worth... My Mom was in OA years ago. She had bariatric surgery 30 year ago lost 140 and started to gain some back so she joined OA to help her through her head issues. Her sponsor became a life-long friend. I know it helped her immensely. I tried it but it tended to be 90% females and I was not comfortable with that at the time. Post surgery I may join too as our hunger/head issues are the same whether we try to lose without surgery or with surgery.

This statement resonated with me. I found this insight and your state of mind to be brilliant. I am 9 days away from surgery and I know getting the head right is the long-term key to success. I will have to work to get where you are mentally. Anyways, nice update. Very inspiring to me. Thank you.

Bacon gets a bad wrap. 43 calories, .2g carb, 3g Protein, 3g fat. Not bad really. Ham is low fat. You could be a ham pusher. I am a ham.....but that is a different story. Sausages - no hiding from that. Not so good all around. Know that sugars and refined carbs are (I believe) the cause of most obesity. Never malign bacon. The taste per calorie is better than most foods.

70lbs in 6 months........ Umm, freekin AWESOME! How many years prior did you diet and lose and then regain? How successful a fat loser were you previous? Better question: Have you worked on getting your mental state right? Are you prepared for the golden first 6 months to be over mentally?

This may blow some people's minds... http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/revisit-the-causality-of-obesity The laws of thermodynamics do not indicate causality. As a 334 lb man I would not lose weight on 2000 cal per day. The formulas indicate this cannot be the case, however, reality tells you otherwise. The Dr is assuming things that are not necessarily proven. The Doc is a tool. Find a new one.

Your pain and perseverance through it all shows what kind of mentally tough person you are. Your story and journey scares and inspires me. I can only hope if I am tested like you that I can measure up to your level of tenacity. Frankly, that turn of events (pun not intended) really sucks and I am sorry this is one more challenge where you get the opportunity to show your mental toughness and strength of character. I am not normally one for prayers, but, well, thinking of you and wishing you well.

Something is dramatically strange with your PCP's experience. LapBands are, by far, the least effective and most "failed" as compared to sleeve and especially RNY. Many bariatric centers of excellence are no longer doing lap bands since it requires so much special attention to keep it effective. From the research and the evidence we have this tool for being massively effective for 6 months. In those 6 months we have to fix our heads, our minds or else we will make the tool be ineffective from then on. The peer reviewed studies I have seen have the EWL (excess weight loss) for the sleeve being as effective as the RNY at 2 year mark. Five years out if you have not changed your mind you will gain it all back regardless of the surgery/tool you chose. This is no magic bullet. The first 6 months is our opportunity to fix ourselves. When the emotional crutch of numbing up and/or the pleasure of food is removed we have to address our demons. Fix the mind and the body will follow is the advice I have heard. this makes sense and scares me a bit. What type of wls did those 5-7 people have?They all had the sleeve he said he saw more people with bypass and band succeed.

So for those 100+lbs overweight and with T2 diabetes has your sleeve... 1) Allowed you to get off oral meds? 2) Allowed you to eliminate Insulin injections? I met with my surgeon and he strongly recommended RNY/Bypass based on my diabetes instead of the sleeve. Now I am not sure how unbiased his opinion is as he is a RNY specialist. Right now 80% ($26,000) of his surgeries are RNY with the other 20%($18,000) sleeves. He does not do lap bands as he feels the weight regain happens too much and doesn't support that anymore. So the raging debate in my household is RNY versus Sleeve based on eliminating diabetes and maybe eliminating my super high blood pressure. Truly this is for the health-medical improvement. I have until Thursday to change my mind to RNY instead of sleeve. Please chime in your opinion.

Thank you. Sleeve is my choice. In a worst case scenario I can revise to RNY or DS later if necessary. I appreciate your responses and thoughts.

Now that I read "staples" I better understand the context. Please now resume the regularly scheduled repartee. It kind of reminds me of my friends from high school (of 30 years) when we get together for Green Bay Packer games and an outsider tries to keep up with the witticisms and ripostes. Which this just shared my thought on if you can have "friends" be "real" on the internet. This thread could be held up as a shining example of it. I think I will alert the social media.

20 lbs so far Preop until Dec 24

This felt like a public mocking.

With this thread I just became convinced this a forum my fucked up self can fit right in. Thank you.

http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/2464740-when-things-fall-apart-heart-advice-for-difficult-times We are not alone. It is the human condition. I humbly submit with this vulnerable heart-felt thread I think this book and these quotes harmonize with what most are saying. It may give comfort, It does to me sometimes. My favorite quote: “We think that the point is to pass the test or overcome the problem, but the truth is that things don't really get solved. They come together and they fall apart. Then they come together again and fall apart again. It's just like that. The healing comes from letting there be room for all of this to happen: room for grief, for relief, for misery, for joy. (10)” ― Pema Chödrön, When Things Fall Apart: Heartfelt Advice for Hard Times I saw a lot of this quote below in reading this thread - seemed spot on. “The most fundamental aggression to ourselves, the most fundamental harm we can do to ourselves, is to remain ignorant by not having the courage and the respect to look at ourselves honestly and gently.” ― Pema Chödrön, When Things Fall Apart: Heart Advice for Difficult Times You all have courage and balls of steel....err, well, you get my meaning.

Isopure clear drinks may be worth a try.

If people you care about will suffer more by not having the surgery due to medical issues I could argue you have an obligation to share your experience. Including the complications statistics and a site and/or book to help with detailed research is the best you can give a person you care about. In the end every person makes their own choice. This surgery gone wrong is not on you.

$18, 750 sleeve $ 26, 000 RNY Central Wisconsin Bariatric center of excellence

So I have been reading and realizing over the last while I just need to freekin get over the fear. I mean seriously just do this or don't do this but stop the darn whining. It is all a choice. We choose to become healthy by using medical technology or we don't. There are risks. There will be some, a lot, or maybe no pain. So (I look squarely at me when I say) get the hell over it and be willing to risk a little or perhaps a lot in order to live life. Okay, crawling back under my rock now. Dec 24 surgery.....Merry Christmas to me with a great potential gift for ME and my family.