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Which is another reason to aim to get as much of your protein requirement from food as possible. Of course early put it isn't (and for many of us we continue to need to supplement) but even then I try to get my protein from many sources even the supplements, in case one isn't all it claims to be, like the Quest bars and the GENEPRO. I figure if I am not relying on that one source too heavily I'm still good because of all the other sources.

I also assume that if bariatric patients have been using it and all of their labs come back and satisfy their doctors, then it's also generally okay and doing what it claims. There isn't a blood test to show whether you are getting enough protein for health. The tests that measure protein in your blood show when protein is "spilling" into blood which is an indicator of certain disease/organ/inflammatory/infections conditions. It's not like Vitamin levels where you can asses deficiencies from a blood test. Blood shouldn't really have protein in it.

Do a search on the forum. I can't remember the specifics but there are many discussions with some legit concerns about the science behind Genepro.

I'm a gonna echo the egg caution on here! Tried them every few weeks once my plan allowed them which was at the purée stage. Ouch!!! Took till about six months out before I could eat them without pain/nausea. Mine were scrambled because that's the only way I've ever liked them. Didn't try boiled or fried.

I eat Quest and power crunch bars several times a week and have since I was about six months out. It's worked well for me, it isn't a trigger or a slider (often I can only eat half even now at 2.5 years post op) and I don't obsess. Everyone is different and I have always had trouble fitting in all my Protein so I still have one supplement (shake or bar) almost daily. Whether you can count "net carbs" and subtract sugar alcohols and Fiber does depend on your plan/nutritionist/dietician/reason. I count net carbs because the others don't impact blood sugar causing the rise/fall/cravings cycle for me personally. That is what my dietician's plan counts as net carbs. I also have eaten fruit regularly in moderation since about a year out. I have learned how much I can have before it sets off the blood sugar rise/fall/cravings. With berries and watermelon it's a good amount. stone fruit a moderate amount, apples/oranges/bananas I have to be careful with.

I found sadly (for my pocketbook) I could only drink bottled water not even our wonderful well water. Something about the density sat in my stomach like lead. Play around with different ones till something works

I was 45 and 271lbs December of 2013. Lost 136lbs. by the following December.

Thanks for clarifying! Though I just checked and according to her chart less than 20% on a woman is unhealthy at any age! I googled and found a bunch of other charts that said I was fine though. Hard when all the charts are different, LOL!

Can you tell me where this chart came from? My last DEXA scan had me at 17% body fat and at my age that puts me as "underfat!" The chart I had put me at "athletic" now I'm concerned

Sadly they make it personal and name names and call people bullies and such.

Insurance wouldn't cover any of mine, tried! @@Djmohr I had a similar issue until my chiropractor and physical therapist had me re learn how to sit. This is what worked for me.... We learn to sit to accommodate the fat. I needed to push my butt back further in the chair, reclaim the natural curvature of the lumbar spine and sit more on the backs of my thighs or "sitz bones" as my yoga teachers say... Less on my butt itself.

You are speaking with the experience you have at 7 weeks out. Ask most of us 12-36 or more months out. There is a HUGE difference between the weight loss and hunger in the "honeymoon window" as we call it of the first 6-12 months and the loss and hunger afterwards. I say stick as closely as you can to your program, minimize white carbs--pasta, rice, bread, potatoes--as much as possible during that window both to maximize loss and to retrain your system and solidify new habits, then play around with adding a few in. That's what I did and I have been highly successful. Lost half my weight and am a size 4. Had almost no white carbs for a year and now have them in moderation. I trained for and ran many half marathons and 200 mile relay races and never needed carbs for energy. And I didn't have any issues when j reintroduced them so I don't think I somehow "untrained" my body re-how to deal with them. Just some thoughts from someone successful and a good distance out!

Well damn... Aren't we just the epitome of self control and discipline?!? If u were so good at it then you yourself wouldn't have needed surgery to begin with, with that said. I'm not on here be criticized or to be pitied. I searched for a forum to be informed, to find out if I was the only one going through things and to educate myself on something that I am new to. So please spare me with the self righteous bullshit! You and evry1 else who feels The need to taller about me Or My situation like u knw me. Everything is learned, unless u are so damn special that u were born knowing already. Gastric Sleeve Surgery 6/15/16 Miami,Fl 33yrs/mother of 2boys /5'6" highest weight 300s in 2002-03 lowest weight 193 in 2014 I've lost 100 pounds. I've been below my goal weight for 14 months. I weigh 135 pounds. I am 70 years old. I got to this point in the last two years -- by which I mean I have accomplished my WLS goals -- by being compliant with my surgeon's instructions. Period. You can have your big fat hissy fit if you want to. And you can keep eating bacon if you want to. Or eat any damn thing you want to when "life gets too tough." See how far that gets you. Nobody has it easy after WLS. Not you. Not me. Not anyone. It's tough. So get tough. And you'll win, too. Congratulations on your weight loss and all that you have accomplished. Your are the perfect example of a person that I would call a "keyboard worrier"! Why cause any1 can sit behind a cellphone or computer screen and talk out their ass all day and it wouldn't even matter. U don't knw me. U don't knw my life not what I've been through and harsh and being rude not only to me but for every1 else that's tried to give a positive comment doesn't make any more then any1 here. The only difference between u and I is that I'm 21 days into this and u are 14 months, so don't act like you forgot what it felt like the first couple of days and even weeks. Yes every1 struggles, evry1 feels depressed and evry1 at some point thought "what did I get myself into" and no1 deserves to be talked down to because u feel some type of way about what's being said. If u don't agree say that or just don't say **** at all, move on to another post or something. But how dare u act like u don't remember those 1st couple of days when u feel so crappy with something that's been done to you body and have no idea how to get rid of it or fix. So go shake you're damn head somewhere else if u don't have any other way of giving insight to a person without talking down to them. Gastric Sleeve Surgery 6/15/16 Miami,Fl 33yrs/mother of 2boys /5'6" highest weight 300s in 2002-03 lowest weight 193 in 2014 First of all she's well over two years in, she's been under/at GOAL 14 months. Second how can you assume her first weeks were like yours? You says surely she can't have forgotten. I will bet you a donut she hasn't but her first weeks were very different from yours because she made a commitment to do the work and just stuck it out. C'mon people!!!! I always say to myself it's only a day/week/month/whatever. I've got this, I can do anything for a day/week/month. And it's true! No you don't have to avoid bacon forever, but REALLY?!?! You can't avoid it for a month?!!! This time is IMPORTANT to your health and your life and your success. Didn't you realize ahead of time it would be HARD?!! Hopefully you made the commitment to do it anyway. I have confidence you can do it, why don't you? OK, you slipped, fine. Now get over it and move on with a renewed commitment don't look for pats on the back saying it's OK. Acknowledge it was a mistake and get back on track and say THANKS to the people who give you good solid advice rather than enabling you.

Really? Cause my dr said no more bread, Pasta, or rice ever! Forever is a long time. That has me more scared then the actual surgery pain. Do you enjoy food like you did before just in smaller portions? Cause I'm afraid eating for me will always have to be a challenge from here on out. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Question is can you or should you? I can easily eat pasta and bread but don't eat it since I am still in weight loss mode. But my sleeve is fine with it. Rice I really can't tolerate.I understand I can't go crazy with it. But when the put the word forever on it it scared me. I don't plan on eating it a lot because I know it is bad for you. I'd still just like to know that way down the road I could have a couple bites of pasta salad or maybe a piece of toast here and there. Sent from my iPhone using the BariatricPal App Some can some can't. Some people it doesn't agree with. Some people it agrees with just fine, but it opens a door and raises the "carb monster" appetite which is difficult to tame. Don't think this lack of appetite lasts forever! Yeah it's nice not having that word forever.... BUT I use it to remind myself I CAN have some toast tomorrow if I REALLY want/need it. And then I don't. Been over 2.5 years and I still haven't. No toast, no pasta salad, no soda. I have a few that I do splurge on and popcorn happens to be one because I can control serving size and frequency easily. I ONLY have it at the movies and ONLY have my measured serving and the kids eat the rest. With that lifestyle change and avoiding the things I have difficulty eating in moderation (yeah toast was always a HUGE favorite) I've successfully lost over half my weight, wear a size 4 and continue to keep it off. Not saying you shouldn't take advice from people a few weeks out... I'm sure they know much more than I do

Damn! Is there some secret place for snarky vets? I want an invite! Sigh

You enjoy one Coke Zero Cherry a day yet you support the other gal?? That doesn't make much sense to me. Uh yeah.... There's a bit of a difference between 4 years out like Wolfgirl78 is and the initial poster who is 15 days out!

Most of the people who are successful long term do a hard reset of their habits during the "honeymoon" period of 6-18 months. At that point you have new eating habits hard wired. You may find you even have new preferences and food choices that you actually LIKE better than the old ones. At that point eating off plan, using moderation, is most likely not going to derail your hard work and be a slippery slope back to old patterns. Think hard about that. Is a few sips or bites here and there NOW worth not getting those new patterns in solid. Why not take the best advantage of that window to make a good solid permanent change?

Are you still drinking protein shakes? My main nutrition came from those for quite a long time, solids were just for variety and practice. I still supplement with protein shakes 2.5 years out to meet my goals

It is. A. As you've said loose skin is FAR healthier. B. Loose skin doesn't stop you from life. I thought I was a happy/healthy fat person and that it didn't hold me back or stop me from doing anything until I became an active normal weight person. Night and day difference. C. Loose skin is easy to hide/camouflage with clothes. 98% of people will never see what you look like naked! D. Surgery is always an option to remove loose skin.

I want to say re my post and yours.... I agree with you about white potato/bread/rice/pasta in principle and almost said so in my post.I think whole grains are a solid healthy choice. I personally avoid them because they don't sit well in my stomach. Bread/pasta/potato sit like a doughy and rice is actually painful. So I think they are healthy choices, I just personally don't eat them because they don't agree with me.

Bread, Pasta, white potatoes, rice, high fructose corn syrup, added sugars, fruit juice....yes low fat stuff too because it usually has higher carbs, I've avoided fake butter since before surgery.... I try to eat foods that are as close to natural form as possible...EXCEPT I do do Protein shakes and bars ("frankenfood").

Loose skin is cake compared to fat!

One of the few times that happened to me was after eating shrimp from a restaurant buffet. I'm gonna go with food poisoning from the shrimp!

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Fair enough. However I would still like to see some studies that show it helps or even some articles that explain the logic behind how it might help. I searched and searched and even found article that said we don't stretch fascia at all. I found nothing that even suggested yoga or fascial release does anything for skin.