jess9395

Oh empty stomach for sure! Even at four years out that will make me nauseous!

Wait how far out from surgery are you? You joined 6/15? You shouldn't be eating any of those things! Put some salt on cottage cheese or have salty broth!

Chips are a bad choice whether you make them at home or not. Lots of calories and no nutritional value. Try pickles for salt. Or toast pepperoni slices in the microwave or oven for protein chips. Or shredded cheese till it almost burns. Or heck just cheese it's salty.

Yea the carbonation stretches your stomach is a myth that science has disproven. It's one of those axioms that some surgeons spread because it's easier than going into detail. That said, carbonation irritates my stomach something fierce. OUCH!!!! Tried it accidentally (ok more like mindlessness at a party where I was finally relieved to find a NON alcoholic beverage so forgot mineral water was sparkling). That was about six months post op. Haven't tried it since. Was a HUGE Diet Pepsi drinker pre op. Haven't looked back!

If we could stop ourselves, why would we need The surgery? Truly wondering. I think many of us need BOTH, the mental help AND the physical help.

Binge eating is less about the amount than the loss of control and compulsiveness. It's eating out of control for a discrete period of time, not being able to stop. "Coming to" and not even being aware of how much. Almost a fugue state or trance.

And to clarify for those debating true eating disorder binge eating... I had it, clinically diagnosed. And for ME the sleeve was the TOOL that allowed all my therapy and such to work. The therapy alone wouldn't have done it, the sleeve alone wouldn't have done it. The two combined did. And I'm four years out and maintaining.

And just to clarify... a large regain I wouldn't write off. A regain into unhealthy territory I wouldn't write off. The last 10-20 lbs for ME are vanity pounds. They are what let me fit into my size 4 skinny jeans and wear a bikini, not what keep my blood pressure low and from diabeties.

Really? You don't have any restriction? You can eat as much as you did before? My understanding is that's not the norm. Did you surgeon remove the fundus? Are you a sleeve or bypass patient? The studies I read say most people lose to an "artificial" low and then gain to their natural new low. Most of the people I know who have maintained well maintain at 10-20lbs over their very lowest. That's why a small regain doesn't bother me.

If it makes you feel any better that's not uncommon. My sister is a paramedic with an ambulance company and has lost count of the number of gallbladder attacks she's been called to the scene of. She's so good at diagnosing them she's diagnosed my sister in law and two family friends over the phone!

You've got this!!! Wednesday is less than 72 hours away. You can do anything for 72 hours! Heck, 24 of that will be sleeping... hang in there!!!

There are a lot of myths being perpetuated on this thread. To be fair a lot of them are perpetuated by doctors who find it simpler to give axioms or simplifications rather than explain complexities. First of all, sliders aren't things that form a slurry and slide through. All food forms a slurry when chewed and combined with juices (stomach acid). Sliders are foods that don't have much substance to them and thus when chewed sorta dissolve away. Think of which foods you can crush down to nothing WITHOUT eating them. Crackers, chips, toasted bread, crisp cookies etc. Some other foods behave like sliders because they don't stay in your stomach--most of those are liquid to begin with like broth. There are other foods that behave that way on a case by case basis, but a lot of the things listed here--donuts, cupcakes, bread in general, do NOT slide right through. Neither do they swell up in your stomach. The feeling you get that makes it seem like swelling is from the gluten proteins becoming gummy. Ball up some white bread outside of your stomach and you will see what I mean. As for why or whether there is a honeymoon period of a year or a regain starting at 3 years... yes there is some observable data there. But is it because we reach our new set point and losing beyond that is harder or is it a time window... we don't KNOW. The best obesity researchers don't Know. I'm four years out and maintaining well but I can't pretend to be an expert on anything except MY experience. I lost 136lbs and can easily maintain 115 of that. The last 20lbs are a pain in the butt! But you know what, that's NORMAL. I'm 47 years old. What normal 47 year old woman doesn't struggle with 20 lbs or so. Am I a failure? No. Heck I don't even consider that regain. Do I even care? Most of the time, no! That half a donut or three cups of kettle corn at the Father's Day car show sometimes mean more to me than those 20lbs. Other times I buckle down and drop them. It's all good. Have I reframed my relationship with food, yeah. Do I still have a cookie in times of anger or stress or frustration, you bet I do, but I know it's an anger cookie. And you know what, my sleeve stops my from that cookie turning into 2 or 3 or a dozen just as much as my mind does. We are all in this together and until we've walked in each other's shoes all we can speak to is our own experience and there is no universal. That said, newbies should probably stick to their docs program and not believe they can listen to their bodies instead... listening to our bodies got us all obese. We picked our surgeons for their expertise. Why trust someone to cut you open but then not trust their dietary advice?!?!

Die in what way? I have a sleeve so I don't dump. My binge feelings are gone. I'm four years out and wear a size 4 and run 15-20 miles a week. I can eat half a donut once in a while. More than half and I get an upset stomach though.

50 cupcakes? Are you serious? Really? No way on this earth could I do that! I can't finish one and I'm sleeved four years.

Yes you need to figure out why you over eat, yes you need to do the mental work, yes the surgery is a tool and you need to work hard. BUT it's a big tool. Hunger and eating is a complex system regulated by hormones/Endocrine system, gut biome/gastrointestinal system and behavior/mental processes/reinforcement and likely a lot of other things we haven't discovered. This podcast is amazingly educational on the interplay: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/weight-loss-surgery-podcast-bariatric-lap-band-rygb/id662443588?mt=2&i=1000373855300 This surgery changed the biology of my binge cycle so the rest of it could work FOR ME. I haven't felt like bingeing since. And of course everyone is different, but no I couldn't physically eat 10 donuts... crackers maybe.... more popcorn than I should, but like we are taking a couple of cups not a large tub. I'm four years out and get stuffed with one donut.

I agree that it needs to be tailored individually. BUT just because a person works out doesn't mean he or she needs a lot of carbs. Some people do, but I trained for and ran two marathons (4-5 hours of intense yoga week as well) doing low carb. It is all quite inidividual. BUT most of us didn't get fat on protein. Usually it was simple, refined carbs.

Yes I stuck to very low carb until I had reached goal.

Be careful. Try the lemon juice only with medical supervision because gallstones are dangerous.

Very common to get gallstones after rapid weight loss. And there is no cure, they don't go away. Eventually it has to come out or, as has been said, you can die.

271 to 135

I had a hiatal hernia and it was repaired during my sleeve surgery. I didn't even know I had it until I woke up from surgery and one of the nurses told me my surgeon repaired one.

Interesting question! I looked back and it was almost exactly 30% SW = 271 5 months I was at 188 (83lbs down) Total weight loss 136

Yeah I was post menopausal and had my tubes tied and got a pregnancy test too. The other reason you're there so early is in case the schedule changes. If the surgeries before you all to quickly, if someone backs out and cancels... they would rather have YOU sitting around waiting than the doctor and surgical personnel.

Different docs have different rules about coffee and caffeine. Mine never put any limitation as long as it didn't irritate Or cause reflux. But wanted to share this for when you are allowed! It does have the caffeine because it has tea in it but a lot lower carb/sugar/higher protein than a traditional chai latte.

Just another thought to add to the many good ones on this thread-- Yes, we ALL quit our diets when it gets hard. That's why we are here. It doesn't mean we won't be successful with surgery. The odds of losing weight and keeping it off are minuscule without medical intervention (I can't remember the exact odds but google it). The biggest looser contestants all lost tons but gained it back. Weight is a very complex medical condition regulated by hormones/Endocrine system, gut bacteria/gastrointestinal system, behavior, thought processes all reinforcing each other. It's not all about her giving up when it gets hard. This surgery changes some parts of this making the others more manageable with the appropriate education and support. This podcast is amazingly educational: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/weight-loss-surgery-podcast-bariatric-lap-band-rygb/id662443588?mt=2&i=1000373855300 Surgery isn't a quick fix or cure all, but it's a tool and gives us a fighting chance. I wish I had been able to have it at your daughters age. I have an 18 year old daughter. She doesn't struggle with her weight but if she did I would support her in getting it. I had my surgery at 43. I am four years out and maintaining a 135lb loss and it has been life changing for me. I gave up when it got hard more times than I can count, and this surgery gave me a fighting chance that I made the most of.