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  1. Hi, Mommyonthemove, so sorry to hear you're going through this.

    I too had a bowel obstruction about 4 years ago and word for word you described my experience and why it happened.

    The 1st surgery for it I healed surprisingly well. I went home after maybe a week and went home.

    I did fine for about a week or little less and one day I took my son and a friend to a trampoline place and while I was there I suddenly got the chills and started shaking uncontrollably we had to leave.

    It got worse on the drive home. When I got home I put on pajamas, thick robe and wrapped up in blanket and went outside in the sun, this is in July, and called my surgeon and he told me to go to the ER.

    Long story short, went, got admitted and ended up with another obstruction and it was then we decided to do a reversal. Another surgery, this one took me a long time to bounce back from. I was in the hospital for over a month and came home with IV antibiotics and feeding tube.

    So, you're not alone. I thought I was the only one who had these type of problems until I started digging into things deeper. I'm not on here much but do follow many FB groups that the topics are a match for me.

    I hope you have a speedy recovery.


  2. 17 hours ago, NickM said:

    Thank you for the information. How long after bypass did you develop gastreoparesis? Did you get a mild case and how long does it take your stomach to empty? Also, how long was it between your bypass and the reversal. Sorry if you already answered that above.

    Good morning, NickM!

    I'll answer the best I can. The past 10 years have been a big blur. I think all the malnutrition, surgeries, drugs given, Vitamin deficiency has really caused some damage to my memory, not thinking clearly up until this day.

    Since I've started the vomiting and heartburn recently my new Dr ordered old records from the retired Dr who did my reversal. When I received them and read them I apparently had this vomiting issue then and this is while I was in the hospital recovering from my reversal! The records stated a 2nd opinion was called in to confirm and then I went into surgery again and Botox was injected in my stomach to help keep food down. I don't remember any of this. I guess the Botox worked or maybe they gave me something else that's helped until now or maybe it's gotten worse. Who know! So anyone reading this who has this problem maybe mention to your doctor about Botox injections in the stomach.

    I like my new Gastro Dr but he's not in the field of bypass and reversal patients and don't know if I have many options.

    Your other questions - I forgot how long it took my stomach to empty, he did say it probably is never 100% empty because it is so ridiculously slow.

    Years from the time I got my bypass to reversal was about 14 years.

    Hope this helps more. I'll answer the best I can anytime!


  3. 22 hours ago, NickM said:

    Mbrock. Did you have any long term complications from your reversal?

    Hi, Nick. I don't get on here much but it looks like you asked me over a year ago and just recently if I've had long term issues with my reversal. The 1st time I had not had it yet and now I'm post o and my answer is yes. ( if I'm not correct about the posts please forgive me. This site is a little confusing for me and especially using a mobile browser).

    I've developed something called Gastroparesis. Basically a damaged nerve that causes me nighttime vomiting and severe heartburn. I take heartburn meds and try to follow yet another diet. There's no quick fix surgery that I'm aware of. I'm still learning about it as I go.

    I hope this helps at least a little. You can email me anytime, mbrockgreat@gmail.com


  4. This is soooo normal . Stop worrying about it. Listen to your bodies, people. Rest, heal eat or drink what you are told. Don't over do it or you will regret it, trust me. If you can't already follow post op instructions you are in trouble.


  5. Well, it's been forever since I've signed on and since then I've finally gained weight. Now...i wish it would stop some! I'm up to 130 pounds and having to buy bigger clothes. I'm ok with this if I don't get any heavier, which is ALL up to me. . Labs still come back with issues, anemia, thyroid issue, etc. But I haven't checked into it yet. Went a year not going to a doctor, didn't meet my deductible or out of pocket! First time in 13 years!

    Hope everyone is well.


  6. Hi, M!

    Thank you for asking. I usually don't even open the e-mails from the WLS sites anymore, but for some reason I opened yours :-)

    I'm doing better. I'm finally gaining weight so now the fear of being "huge" again is scary. I still love food . Unfortunately, I've come to realize that one addiction leads to another. If you don't figure out why you over eat in the first place , have this surgery it's not uncommon that we substitute food for something else . My late brother in law , same surgery, Sam ages and had surgery one year after me found alcohol which damage his kidneys more and costs him his life. I turned to drugs. Thank goodness I got caught. I actually came out on my own. What a relief. It almost cost my marriage, my family, my kids . I've lost so many cars from wrecks. My husband left me. We are working on saving our marriage. So far it's going well, but it hasn't been long. But I'm determined and have a wonderful support system. My parents and older sister have been my ROCK. I WOULD NOT BE HERE IF IT WEREN'T FOR THEM. I was at my breaking point but no one knew. Suicide was ALWAYS on the brain.

    Lost all self esteem , due to my on going dental issues. Missing most teeth when I use to beautiful teeth. I wouldn't look in the mirror even while putting on make up or brushing my teeth. Much less want to talk to ANYONE. Which led to wanting more drugs.

    Luckily, I have the MOST INCREDIBLE PARENTS. I'm over coming having all my rotten teeth pulled and dentures made THANKS all to my mom and dad. They are a HUGE BLESSING.

    I appreciate you asking . That was nice. Made me think maybe my story can help just one person and that I should keep up with this more. Especially since my REAL story doesn't end just at the take down surgery. There's more complications that go on that are hidden very well from some some. It's a very dark and lonely place.

    Again, thanks.

    Michelle

    *SORRY FOR POSTING THE SAME PICTURE OVER AND OVER, IT KEPT SAYING IT CRASHED SO I DIDN'T THINK IT DOWNLOADED!


  7. MBrock, I know it's been a while now since your reversal/take down, but just wanting to know how you're doing? have you at least gotten some of your energy and health back?

    here's to hoping that you have and that you are now starting to enjoy life once again.

    All the best M

    Hi, M!

    Thank you for asking. I usually don't even open the e-mails from the WLS sites anymore, but for some reason I opened yours :-)

    I'm doing better. I'm finally gaining weight so now the fear of being "huge" again is scary. I still love food . Unfortunately, I've come to realize that one addiction leads to another. If you don't figure out why you over eat in the first place , have this surgery it's not uncommon that we substitute food for something else . My late brother in law , same surgery, Sam ages and had surgery one year after me found alcohol which damage his kidneys more and costs him his life. I turned to drugs. Thank goodness I got caught. I actually came out on my own. What a relief. It almost cost my marriage, my family, my kids . I've lost so many cars from wrecks. My husband left me. We are working on saving our marriage. So far it's going well, but it hasn't been long. But I'm determined and have a wonderful support system. My parents and older sister have been my ROCK. I WOULD NOT BE HERE IF IT WEREN'T FOR THEM. I was at my breaking point but no one knew. Suicide was ALWAYS on the brain.

    Lost all self esteem , due to my on going dental issues. Missing most teeth when I use to beautiful teeth. I wouldn't look in the mirror even while putting on make up or brushing my teeth. Much less want to talk to ANYONE. Which led to wanting more drugs.

    Luckily, I have the MOST INCREDIBLE PARENTS. I'm over coming having all my rotten teeth pulled and dentures made THANKS all to my mom and dad. They are a HUGE BLESSING.

    I appreciate you asking . That was nice. Made me think maybe my story can help just one person and that I should keep up with this more. Especially since my REAL story doesn't end just at the take down surgery. There's more complications that go on that are hidden very well from some some. It's a very dark and lonely place.

    Again, thanks.

    Michelle

    *SORRY FOR POSTING THE SAME PICTURE OVER AND OVER, IT KEPT SAYING IT CRASHED SO I DIDN'T THINK IT DOWNLOADED!

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  8. I am almost 3 years post-op and just recently starting having problems with taking my Zoloft. At first I thought the pill was too large so I split it in half, which seemed to work. However I've now started having severe reflux pain immediately after taking the pill. A doctor sent me for an upper GI where they found a hiatel hernia, but this shouldn't be causing the pain. I am being told now to get scoped. I found a thread on the lap band forum where several patients from that surgery are experiencing the pain as well, but the cause they identified (bacteria from the colon coming up through their stomach to the pouch) wouldn't explain this for gastric bypass patients. I'm curiuous to see how many RNY patients taking zoloft have this problem and what they have been able to do to fix it. Thanks!

    I HAD RNY, take down was done 7/31 & I've taken Zoloft for years. It's one thing that didn't hurt or bother me due to having the surgery 14 yrs ago.

    Sorry, not much help with this one. Almost scary thinking what I would have been like NOT taking them ( on h I high dosage) ;)


  9. I have 2 large deep ulcers that will not heal even with months of full medical treatment. Due to severe dehydration and malnutrition I have been on a PICC line getting TPN for 2 weeks. My surgeon feels I need to be on the TPN for about 4 more weeks before I am strong enough for surgery. We at first discussed a revision but he does not think I would survive another round of ulcers so I will be having a full reversal aka- takedown. I am just waiting for my final authorization so we can see if I will have it before or after Thanksgiving.

    I am just ready to get my life back. I have been sick since June and even though I am lucky enough to have the best husband in the world who now works from home to help care for me I am sick of being pampered and I am tired of resting! I want to get out in the world and break a sweat! I hope this note finds you feeling a lot better. I would love to hear any tips or advice you have to give on making it through this process...

    Please read my post about the ulcers years. It was for you. I also did the PICC line after the tear down, was home 3days and back in hospital a month and 2 more surgeries required. I weigh the same as my 12 yr old son, 95#'s.


  10. I can't believe Iam posting these pictures....but I want to show you the HELL Ian living. I looked like this before my take down on 7/31/13 -but lost another front tooth this week. Needless to say, why even shower daily?So I don't. I don't go out and "LIVE MY LIFE" I HAVE NO LIFE.

    Everyone shows the before and after pics, I did it too. But the reality is this can happen to you.

    Read someone say they had ulcers? ?While I spent a month in the hospital my LIFE long friend came to visit. After I got home, 2days I saw a posting on FB for prayer requests. So I commented and called her the next day to see how she was holding up and her friends condition. She broke the hospital news to me that she passed away that morning.

    I politely asked if she would tell me from what. Being such a greatfriend, she said once I got stronger and healthier she would explain. That freaked me out more, she finally told me she was 6year post op ANY patient who had ulcers. Well, a few days she felt uncomfortable, in pain and figured it was the ulcers Well"acting up". She ended up in the ER, same hospital I was in, and she died because Gangrene had set in the ulcers and killed her. She had surgery for the ulcers years prior....another weird thing about this story. ..her doctor is the same doctor who saved my LIFE in 2010& 2013...he didn't do either of our original bypass but saved her life once and mine twice. You can follow his son, also a world famous bariatric surgeon, Dr. Garth Davis, he's on FB & TWEETER (THE DAVIS CLINIC). Also had a show on DISCOVERY CHANNEL orTLC called "Big Medicine ". My doctor is dad,Robert Davis.

    He's "the man" if something doesn't feel right. ...LISTEN TO TO YOUR BODY.

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  11. Well, had RNY "take down" 7/31/13 as stated I would. Spent 15 days in the hospital. I finally went home with PICC LINE and was receiving TPN, basically all my Protein and nutrition in an IV and carried a pump around until I violently started throwing up,chills, fever. Told by surgeon go to ER. So I got to enjoy being home for approximately 4days.

    I was admitted through ER Tuesday night,8/20/13 & have been on TPN almost the whole time while in isolation( MRSA carrier , STAPH, since got while in surgery in 2010, lucky this time the type of STAPH isn't so dangerous and antibiotics can help.

    Still issues with vomiting at night in a dead sleep. After upper GI, the surgery I had on 7/31 was working BUT there was a place at the end of my stomach that was "paralyzed" & food would not travel all the way down through my stomach through intestines. So I am scheduled for yet another surgery tomorrow. Gotta reroute intestines again.

    I'm feeling great...everyone sees the difference in my color, my eyes, my voice...I'm just stronger. I looked so malnourished and sick before.

    I keep thinking and saying THIS IS IT, THIS Is THE LAST SURGERY I'LL NEED. I'm almost scared to say that,but I am while knocking on wood.

    What caused my stomach to become paralyzed at the end?

    A nerve was cut during the original bypass surgery in 1999, probably would not have known if reversal was not done. But who really knows? What could it have down if reversal had not been done?

    Note: Dr. Robert Davis ( had the show

    "BIG MEDICINE" on TLC) is my surgeon NOW,NOT MY ORIGINAL.

    The take down took little over 3 hrs. He said when he went in it was a mess. It looked like everything was piled up and glued together, from years of scar tissue, malnutrition, multiple surgeries. Once he took me apart he said it was a breeze.

    I'm not trying to scare anyone, just informing anyone one symptom I mentioned hits home , has questions about RNY, Reversal etc.

    I don't get on here much , and I've gotten slow at emails but reply if any questions.


  12. Mbrock' date='

    As of today you've been registered at RNYTalk.com for a total of 1 year(s), congratulations! Our members here at RNYTalk as well as myself would like to wish you a very very happy anniversary!!

    If you haven't introduced yourself to our RNY community or you haven't posted in a while, now would be a great time to do so! Please share your RNY Surgery journey with other members here. We LOVE hearing from our members!

    Best Regards,

    Alex Brecher, Founder

    RNYTalk.com

    I've didn't seem to keep up with the blogging thing. But always appreciated the nice responses and well wishes I did receive the past year.

    Maybe if I didn't wait until 1,2 3 am I would have kept up more.

    A year ago I replied to "Steph" about regretting surgery 14 yrs ago. Got bombarded with recent and healthy patients (hope all stay healthy) asking what " I did wrong"' & continue doing wrong. "Why didn't do more homework" etc .

    Well, July 31st @ 6 am Dr. Robert Davis will be doing a revision, "take down of RNY". OF course I'm terrified.. Wonder what is the point now... I already look like a freak. It's not going to give me my teeth back, that were once perfect now gone, won't fix my marriage of 14 years, certainly won't have men knocking down my door , the disability will never be enough for the estimated $20K to repair my mouth. So I'll avoid pics at call costs, don't have many with my kids past couple of years, taking bites or trying will be an issue. All the other body, mind damage won't all be repaired. This will hopefully stop it from getting worse, of course that's no guarantee either. But for what reasons ? This is what I keep asking myself OVER, OVER AND OVER . Just more financially in debt?

    More strain on marriage ?

    If you're considering the gastric bypass with RNY or any weight loss surgery, I can't say do your homework because I did mine . It just didn't work out for me and I look and feel the worst I ever have in my entire life.

    I'm not being like this the drag everyone down , but I want people to know there are more people out there like me.


  13. Hi, DarlaRay145, I'm not sure what information you're looking for or what your questions are exactly, but I'm possibly headed that direction myself.

    I'm 14 :-) years post op and had numerous complications, I've tried to give some insight in my past postings.

    It's a difficult surgery, especially if you've had so many abdominal surgeries in the past, makes it that much more difficult for a surgeon to do.

    My weigh in on my surgery date wad 239, since 2010 I can't get past 105, right now I'm 98 lbs, 5ft tall. I suffer from many chronic illnesses, my life has changed, my relationships, the medical expenses are killing me. And I did the surgery to be "skinny and happy", well I feel the absolute worst I've ever felt about myself now. Karma is kicking me in the ass.

    It's a difficult decision to make, of course I worry about being 239 again, but I'm 44 & look 54 , malnourished ,which causes so many other problems...physically, mentally, emotionally, etc, etc

    Are you considering this surgery and may I ask why?

    I had the GBY with rny .

    Take care.


  14. I am attatching an email from me explaing' date=' just a glimpse, of why I "regret" the surgery. I was asked why from the begining but did not keep up with this very much. Being on a computer is hard for me sometimes, and I've had 2 surgeries on my right arm since the original question from "steph".

    Hope this helps.

    FORWARD:

    "I SOOOO understand each and every person in some aspect or another. I can probably safely say i've walked at least a step in each of everyones shoes..if not a mile.

    It wasn't until approx. 3 years ago..maybe even less, that I said outlays "Y ES, I 100% regret the surgery. But has ZERO to do with food or eating. It's the fact that i've had over 22 surgeries after...during these years I just thought I had bad luck..which I really do, but my problems are just so constant , some life threatening, will be life long , and it never, never stops. It's the pain inside , emotionally, mentally as well as physically ive not only caused to myself(which if were only me , I could deal with that, but to see my family worry, hurt ,scared for me, my life, my marriage and all wonder if I'll make it to see my 22 yr old. Daughter grad from Graduate School with her Master or get married and see 10 1/2 year old son graduate HS...muchless college.

    Which I don't know how that will ever get paid for since hospital bills are approx 200.000.00 a year. Which was easier to manage working for major hosp with good ins helped. But I guess after 3 years there and only had 1 full paycheck ( first 2 weeks there!) they didn't care for me being out for Dr visits, specialists, er visits,.then hospitalized 6 Wks at a time then recouping, return and then some other freak thing happens.

    I did my homework before this, trust me. I'm in the medical field over 15 years. Wasn't the dr's fault, blah , blah.blah .."they" the medical professionals don't know it all. Trial and error. That's where lap band came in. th e "safe surgery". Now the surgeon who saved my life in 04/10.won't even discuss doing one of those and will tell ya get the hell out of his office if ya try ! Very brunt, up fronts , nothing held back type man. We didn't quite connect at first meeting when he did a "direct admit " & told me I was a day or two away from dying, after listening to me 5 minutes, BIG THANKS to my OB/GYN who looked at my CT scan I brought in sent me to him ASAP.

    I had to be fed through IV for a week to survive the surg. I had dilated loop syndrome, basically being strangled by intestines and scar tissue. kinda common after so many surg's but I shouldn't.had to go approx year misdiagnosed...I give my self credit.there for researching , pointing out on several CT s.that the "mass" showing up is getting bigger!! :()

    That's frustrating and expensive. But I'm not a cut and dry.. Case by any means...and to try to explain this over and over from one Specialists to another is just now mind blowing. and frankly, I'm worn out.

    up until last October I could tell you every surg , every hosp done in dr's. Name , date etc. I can't sit and spit out what i've already had done this year. The paPerworK is mind blowing. But thank goodness I had that medical background because I have every damn copy/original EVERYTHING from piss tests to bypass, Iron, blood transmission, labs. Wish I could just burn it!

    wow..hope I didn't say too much that's just one surgery in April 2010 I spoke about!

    And I'm happy for everyone who does well and know personal friends and family who had WLS and never wish this on anyone. Lap Band was the biggy last year where I work all the employees were getting it, but everyone also knew me, saw me, heard my stories ,and they would say " I'm not having that one you had, nine is safe" ... I had to speak up when I finally saw someone ask the question i've tried do searches for " anyone have regrets" . If I just didn't say Yes I would still feel guilty.

    Live and learn!

    If you're curious, I was 239 @ weigh in November 1999 now 88-95 #'s. My desired weight,.115. Dr's want me 125\130. But would be very pleased at triple digits!"[/quote']

    Mbrockgreat<br />Sent from my SPH-L710 using RNYTalk


  15. Paul, I did my homework as well. Unfortunately all "homework" in the world could not have predicted what would occur years down the road. Not sure If someone tellIng me would have stopped stopped me back t then. BeIng skInny was much more appealIng.

    That's the unfortunate Part of the medIcal fIeld, dont fInd out complIcastIons from meds , surgerIes, etc.untII crap happens. Noone to blame.

    My " I's look like "L's" not sure why , but not going to worry about it!


  16. I am attatching an email from me explaing, just a glimpse, of why I "regret" the surgery. I was asked why from the begining but did not keep up with this very much. Being on a computer is hard for me sometimes, and I've had 2 surgeries on my right arm since the original question from "steph".

    Hope this helps.

    FORWARD:

    "I SOOOO understand each and every person in some aspect or another. I can probably safely say i've walked at least a step in each of everyones shoes..if not a mile.

    It wasn't until approx. 3 years ago..maybe even less, that I said outlays "Y ES, I 100% regret the surgery. But has ZERO to do with food or eating. It's the fact that i've had over 22 surgeries after...during these years I just thought I had bad luck..which I really do, but my problems are just so constant , some life threatening, will be life long , and it never, never stops. It's the pain inside , emotionally, mentally as well as physically ive not only caused to myself(which if were only me , I could deal with that, but to see my family worry, hurt ,scared for me, my life, my marriage and all wonder if I'll make it to see my 22 yr old. Daughter grad from Graduate School with her Master or get married and see 10 1/2 year old son graduate HS...muchless college.

    Which I don't know how that will ever get paid for since hospital bills are approx 200.000.00 a year. Which was easier to manage working for major hosp with good ins helped. But I guess after 3 years there and only had 1 full paycheck ( first 2 weeks there!) they didn't care for me being out for Dr visits, specialists, er visits,.then hospitalized 6 Wks at a time then recouping, return and then some other freak thing happens.

    I did my homework before this, trust me. I'm in the medical field over 15 years. Wasn't the dr's fault, blah , blah.blah .."they" the medical professionals don't know it all. Trial and error. That's where lap band came in. th e "safe surgery". Now the surgeon who saved my life in 04/10.won't even discuss doing one of those and will tell ya get the hell out of his office if ya try ! Very brunt, up fronts , nothing held back type man. We didn't quite connect at first meeting when he did a "direct admit " & told me I was a day or two away from dying, after listening to me 5 minutes, BIG THANKS to my OB/GYN who looked at my CT scan I brought in sent me to him ASAP.

    I had to be fed through IV for a week to survive the surg. I had dilated loop syndrome, basically being strangled by intestines and scar tissue. kinda common after so many surg's but I shouldn't.had to go approx year misdiagnosed...I give my self credit.there for researching , pointing out on several CT s.that the "mass" showing up is getting bigger!! :()

    That's frustrating and expensive. But I'm not a cut and dry.. Case by any means...and to try to explain this over and over from one Specialists to another is just now mind blowing. and frankly, I'm worn out.

    up until last October I could tell you every surg , every hosp done in dr's. Name , date etc. I can't sit and spit out what i've already had done this year. The paPerworK is mind blowing. But thank goodness I had that medical background because I have every damn copy/original EVERYTHING from piss tests to bypass, Iron, blood transmission, labs. Wish I could just burn it!

    wow..hope I didn't say too much that's just one surgery in April 2010 I spoke about!

    And I'm happy for everyone who does well and know personal friends and family who had WLS and never wish this on anyone. Lap Band was the biggy last year where I work all the employees were getting it, but everyone also knew me, saw me, heard my stories ,and they would say " I'm not having that one you had, nine is safe" ... I had to speak up when I finally saw someone ask the question i've tried do searches for " anyone have regrets" . If I just didn't say Yes I would still feel guilty.

    Live and learn!

    If you're curious, I was 239 @ weigh in November 1999 now 88-95 #'s. My desired weight,.115. Dr's want me 125\130. But would be very pleased at triple digits!"


  17. Like I said at the beginning ....it was approx .11 years later that ,let's not use the died "regret ", if I had known then what I have experienced now....I would probably choose a different route .

    Michelle B.<br />Visit my "Blog" I'm in the process of beginning!<br />Mbrockgreat.blogspot.com<br />*Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SII using RNYTalk


  18. Until my internet gets hooked up Thursday I have to give up on even trying to fix whatever happened to my Blogspot. I bought wrong modem so could not get it fixed today. Trying on a cell phone SUCKS!!

    I apologize for even attempting this! Fyi...I've really only looked at this site via mobile, I'm sure I have sooo many goof ups on here as well!!

    That's what malnutrition/malabsorption does to ones bodies and brains.( Seriously)

    Michelle B.<br />Visit my "Blog" I'm in the process of beginning!<br />Mbrockgreat.blogspot.com<br />*Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SII using RNYTalk


  19. I am constantly forgetting to take my Calcium. Not sure if everyone is aware but you should not be taking your Iron and calcium at the same time because they compete for absorption.

    I was told take them at least one hour apart and that's my down fall. I take my multi and Iron first thing. Then "plan" on my calcium an hour later. I stick it in my pocket' date=' go to work and come home at the end of the day, take off my uniform and there it is in in my pocket still! I'll take it then and then forget to take my second multi an hour later!!!! Ugh![/quote']

    Please take your calcium...I now have to get yearly "Reclast" IV infusions from Rheumatology DR. , I take RX Vit D, gel, 50,000units 2 times week, high dose, and do my own B12 injections....still deficient. One of my many "regrets".

    Suggestion ...go to American Board of Neurology and Gastric Bypass patients. This will also somewhat explain why i responded to REGRETS OF HAVING SURGERY. Living it.

    Michelle B.<br />Visit my "Blog" I'm in the process of beginning!<br />Mbrockgreat.blogspot.com<br />*Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SII using RNYTalk

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