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Georgia - I think the IT Band is on the outside of your leg. I googled it and here's a link: IT band Friction Syndrome But the ACL ligament runs on the inside of your knee. Here's a link to info on this and the other parts of the knee: What Is The Anterior Cruciate Ligament? What you are describing sound like the ACL. I have a tear in my meniscus which is the stuff under the knee cap, plus I've strained or torn my ACL ligament. Due to the arthritis that I have, the doc won't fix it, so everyday my knees hurt doing certain activities. Thankfully, running has been fine on them, and seems to be helping them a bit! Climbing stairs or going down them hurt. Not bending or walking or running, only when I have to step up or down. I tore mine in a twisting fall, so it could be from your fall, not necessarily from the treadmill. But the treadmill might be causing additional pain. The treadmill has a set speed and sometimes when you slow down you have to force yourself to pick up the pace, which might be putting stress on your ligaments?? Hope this helps.

Whosya... thanks so much for your inspiration and cheerleading us on! Have fun on your trip! Georgia... I forgot to say that you should ask the Ortho Dr when you see her next week where best to run. Oh yeah... stay off the scale! Be strong! Having said that... ohhh I wanted to step on this morning so badly! But I didn't! Checking my blood sugar has now become my positive reinforcement rather than the scale. Kind of a sadistic reinforcer (LOL), but as long as the numbers are good, the little pain prick is ok!

Bonnie - WAY TO GO!!! YOU DID IT!!! That 20 min run must cause some sentimental brain rush or something... first Renewed and now you becoming all sappy and everything after your run! LOL - I love it... it makes me feel good to hear such true feelings! And you took the words right out of my mind! Congratulations, you have done amazingly well. Georgia - I don't know if this helps, but a few years ago my DH was training for a half marathon and injured his IT band (not really sure what that is but it hurt his leg and knee). It took quite awhile for it to go away and when he started back running, he went to a physiotherapist for help. She told him not to run on an inside track because it was banked and recommended he stick to running outside because it varied the texture and grade frequently, so was more natural and less likely to cause injury. He's now all healed up, and runs fairly regularly. He prefers outside, but will run on the treadmill when its too hot or raining.

I just finished Day 1 of Week 4, and I DID IT!!! - well, sort of (LOL). I did the first 3 intervals (3 min/ 5 min/ 3 min) all ok, although I was sucking wind big time, then the final 5 min interval did me in, but instead of quiting, I did 3 min, walked for 1 min and then did the final 2 min. So I still ran a total of 16 min, and walked 15 min. That's a huge jump from last few weeks where you run no more than 9 min. I always walk a total of at least 30 min, so for the last few weeks its be 9 run and 21 walk. But today I actually ran longer than I walked. I don't think I've done that since I was in grade 7!!!! OMG, I feel so good. I'm on top of the world. I started the day having an awesome interview and now I made a huge leap with running, and then tonight DH and I sort of have a date. Our son is spending his first night away from us on a camping trip, so once our daughter is in bed (8pm) its date time! Hmmm... extra exercise to log on TDP??? LOL. Thank you C25K and everyone here for hooking me on running!!!

Georgia... I hope your knee heals quick. Coming from a chronic knee sufferer, I FEEL your pain. Glad to hear you're going to a specialist. They will fix you up right. Hang in there!

Bonnie... what a disappointment! I hate the fact that we have to lock everything up!

Wow... I'm offline for 1.5 days and there were 4 pages to catch up on!!! What an amazing support group for us all. First off... I'm doing ok since the accident. Still fairly sore, but the docs said that would happen, but ok. Second... I nailed my job interview today!!! I the last week preparing and it paid off. Hopefully it means I get an offer, but won't know that for at least a week. Then next week I have another interview at a different company! So hopefully I will be employed soon. BTW, when they asked me what personal goals I had, I mentioned that I was training to run a 5k race!!! It felt good to say that, and then explain to them how I was training. It won some brownie points... lol. I am going to try running today. I haven't since Sun, as I was too stiff after the accident. But I think it will go ok. I'm going to stick with my plan and start week 4. I'll let you know! Renewed... you are so driven!!!! Running 20, then coming back later and running 25 on the same day just so you can move on! Way to go! Mamato... YEAHHHHHH :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: YOU DID IT!!! Georgia ... I'm so glad your run went well, and no real problems with your knee or ankle. Leslie... you are doing amazing. Huffing and puffing is how I do it too! I think I called it sucking air! Sugar... wow, you cut your time in half! That's so amazing. What a great improvement. Bonnie... you are just trucking along so well. Everyone else... way to go! It's funny, I wasn't online yesterday because the hydro company is working on our neighbourhood, and all I could think about is I want to go onto LBT to find out how everyone's doing. Glad to hear everyone's successes. For those of us giving up the scale this month... keep it up girls! I wanted to step on this morning, but talked myself past it. I keep thinking how good I'll feel waiting! Ohh but its hard.

Hi Everyone, and welcome Tootie and Serenity! BTW, Serenity is a wonderful name (my daughter's middle name LOL). I had a great day yesterday. We went to the beach with our friends and Jesse was actually swimming! It has been a long haul trying to teach him to swim, but he did it. Our friends have a daughter who's the same age as him, and the two adore each other... so he just copied everything she was doing, including swimming. Sarah, my little fearless wonder, is also learning to swim all on her own. She just jumps in and wiggles around. If she could always find her footing in the water, we'd be fine! We then stayed late at our friends and drove home around 10pm, but the trip turned horrible just as we got close to home. We were driving down the street and another car crossed the intersection in front of us. I slammed right into them, totalling their car and damaging ours quite a bit. Good news is no one was really hurt, and it was their fault so their insurance will cover all damages. Bad news is I am sooo stiff and sore. Once the cops cleared us to leave, my DH took dropped me off at the hospital to get checked out, then he had to take the kids home. The docs said I was ok... but they had to put me in a neck brace and strap me to a spinal board until they could confirm. So here I was for 3 hours, strapped to this board, not being able to move, having to pee!!! and my next door neighbour in the emerg was a drugged up crazy guy muttering and moaning the whole time!!! Not my most fun experience. Finally, they said it was all muscle pain and I was good to go home. I didn't get home until 4am, but then had to get up early with the kids... grrrr. Now we are off to the collission reporting centre and the repair shop. So much for my day of rest and prep work for my interview!!! Good news is the doc said I could run, but to listen to my body and stop if it was too much. So later tonight I'm giving week 4 a try. Everyone, good luck today. I'll catch up with your posts later!

Ok, I weighed myself first thing and my ticker is updated. It was hard to up the ticker :wub:, but at least its honest! Now, not until Labour Day Monday! We can do it. If we can run, we can avoid a silly scale :smile:. Mamato... positive thoughts coming your way!!!! Georgia, keep following RICE for about 2-4 days. Continue to follow your daily activities except for vigorous ones (like running). If you notice any pain in your knee just doing your normal activity, go see a doctor and get referred to a sports medicine clinic if possible. They usually have bone docs and phsyiotherapists. I don't know if your insurance covers this, but if it does... go, it really helps. If you don't notice any problems by Tues, give the running a try. Maybe try outside, rather than the treadmill. Outside you can control your speed, but the treadmill kind of forces your speed. Good luck buddy... I'm sending you positive thoughts too! BTW, I totally expected my knees to give up really early in the running, but they have remained good. They still hurt their normal hurts during the day (i.e. climbing stairs), but nothing new or different from normal. I'm really excited about giving week 4 a try! Scared, but also excited. I know I won't be able to do the 2nd 5 min interval... but maybe the first??

I too am addicted to the scales. I weigh myself every morning, except when I forget and have my coffee first. Then I get mad at myself because it is not an appropriate measure. Renewed, I'll join you in that challenge. I'll weigh myself in the morning and then not again until Sept 5th (just before Labour Day). Georgia, I've injured my knees in the past. Last summer DH and I were out golfing and I tripped in a hole and wrenched my knee. Then later in that week I tripped over the dog in the middle of the night and further compromised them. I was in a lot of pain for a long time. In fact, when I had my lapband surgury I was using a cain still to get around. The phsyiotherapist had me follow the RICE program too, but she also had me do some stabalization exercises to improve the muscles. Good luck. I did my Week 3, Day 3 run today and had success! I didn't have to slow down at all and was able to run all intervals. So, I'm going to move on to week 4 on Tue. I probably won't be able to do the 5 min. intervals, but will give it a try.

Mamato - you are a success!!! You ran for 12 minutes straight! That's 4 min. longer than the earlier runs in week 5, so that's a huge advance. It's also 12 min longer than you did 5 weeks ago!!! You probably shouldn't run tomorrow... give yourself the rest day to recoup, then go back over the week, working up to a longer run again. I didn't run today. We didn't get home until 10:30, and there is no way I'm going to run this late at night. Plus, I'm exhausted. So, I'll run tomorrow instead. Lesson learned... run earlier so it doesn't get missed.

Leslie... glad to hear your DH went to the gym.. that's a great first step. Enjoy that exercise tonight!!! I had so many errands to run this morning that I didn't get my run in. Now its almost 6pm and we're off to a festival. So I'm going to have to do my run this evening (late) after eating BBQ food at the Rib Fest. Not the best plan, but I'm not going to skip today! Bonnie... of course you're welcome regardless of your choice. I hope you get approved. Yes it is a tool, but I can honestly say it has saved my life. I've been banded for a year now, have lost 70lbs and am still losing. I don't remember the last time I actually stuck with a diet for more than a year. Usually the weight would start to come back on (and quickly). Also, during that year I've suffered many personal struggles and my band saved me from stress eating myself out of the diet. Just my perspective! But then again, I didn't have a choice. In Canada we have to pay, no insurance covers the lapband, just the gastric bypass.

Oh I forgot to mention... I was saying to my DH last night that when I have lost most of my weight, I would probably have a lot of loose excess skin in my lower belly area. He said to me, "will you need a tummy tuck?" in such a matter of fact sort of way that it shocked me. In a million years I would never have thought he would even entertain such a thing. He is such a worrier, that I would have thought that would send him over the edge. My response was that I wasn't sure if I would or if I would just live with it. He then went on to ask how much it would cost and if our insurance would cover it. So... with that conversation started, I guess if I want to have that in the future... he's on board! Honestly, I never would have considered it because of his worrying. Now, its a possible option. I don't really have much excess there yet, but I can tell that it won't all shrink back, and I'll have some flabby stuff. So, time and weight will tell.

Georgia... way to go! Funny, you feared running on the treadmill and I fear running outside! Probably the same root reason though. My treadmill is in my home, so it's private. I fear running outside where everyone will see me. I also think it will be harder outside. But, I'm going to give it a try once I'm comfortably in week 5, and running at least 5 min. Don't worry about your speed. I walk at 3.5 mph and run at 4.5 mph. I tried once to run faster, but couldn't. Speed will come when we're ready! My DH told me the other day that my 4.5 speed was harder and more impressive than his 6.5 mph, because he would never be able to run even 4.5 carrying 50lb weights (he weighs 50lbs less than me)... so I should be proud I could. As weird as that sounds... he's right and I felt so much better.

Bonnie... ohhh I feel your frustration! Is this guy all there - if you know what I mean? If so, try frustrating him as much as he frustrates you - I love the singing idea :biggrin:, but sing badly! If he's not all there, then just accept that this might be his attempt at socialization, and understand that it might be very challenging for him to do this. Ask the staff if they know what the situation is with this guy, and if it continues to bug you... do what Leslie suggests... move.

Georgia... thanks for the video, I loved it! I had forgotten the music from the movie... so will have to add that to my ipod for when I actually complete a really difficult run... like the 20min run :biggrin: BTW, I now have 2 interviews coming! YEAH! Now if my scales would just start to cooperate, it would be a great day. DH and I had a date last night. Like Renewed, we always had a weekly date, but had to put that on hold when I lost my job. We would go out every Thur night for some golf and dinner. Last night my niece (wonderful young lady) babysat for free just because she knew we needed a night out, and we went to see the new Batman movie. I had given my DH a movie pass way back in Feb that included the movie and concession... so it was a free night and we needed it!!! Loved the movie, very sad, but lots of action. It was great just to get out without the kids... so important to a relationship!

Leslie... I agree with what everyone else is saying, but have my own twist. I think that we (us here on LBT) are so conditioned for weight loss and exercise as we went through this incredible life changing event to prime ourselves for it. We've asked our significant others/family for their support, and for the most part, we've got their support. So we've pretty much dealt with our inner demons (fear, insecurity, self consiousness, self loathing), and use our LBT support network to deal with them when they pop up. However, our loved ones are not always prepared for their own inner demons. Sometimes they fear our success will cause others to find us more attractive, and we might stray. Sometimes they have used us as a measure for themselves... "I'm ok as long as I'm smaller/in better shape than Kathy" and when we rock that viewpoint it sends their demons flying. Sometimes we forget that in our own road to success, we have been self absorbed about our needs and don't realize they need our support too. Leslie, don't pressure him, don't ask him to join you, just do it yourself. When you go for family walks or outings, include him. Help him silently and lead by example. You know that it has to be his choice, otherwise it won't be a lasting change... we've lived that. When he's ready, he will make the change, but forcing him will push him away. Also, be careful on what you expect from him on support. If your success shows him his own failure, then supporting your success will really be hard for him, and he may subconsiously be sabbatoging you... and I mean subconsiously. It is not his fault. Good luck, this is a hard one to face. Just love him for who he is, because that's what you want from him.

Renewed... it will happen, just keep going!

Renewed... I'm all teary eyed! You did it, just like that! I'm so proud of you, and so happy for your accomplishment! Thanks for the sappy stuff too, it made me feel good. WOW.. 20 minutes! That is just so great. You must be on top of the world, knowing you did it! I did my 2nd week 3 run this morning, and it went much better. I lasted through both 3 min. intervals, although I had to slow the last run down from 4.5 to 4.4... but that's ok. If I was outside, I'd have done that naturally. I'm looking forward to Sat for my next run. Last night I felt like running, but knew I shouldn't overdo it. So I took the dog for a fast walk. The dog is starting to enjoy our fast walks, and didn't want it to end. I'm not sure if she could run with me, but I might try it one day to see. She could have when she was younger, but now I'm not so sure.

Luluc - thanks for the link. I found a store in my city and am going to go check them out! Leslie - way to go!!

Ok Leslie... here's your kick in the butt! Remember that 5k run that you want to do in the Fall... it won't happen unless you go to the gym and do your run... also, remember how good you feel after you actually do the run... you can't feel that if you don't go to the gym and run! Ok, naked treadmill running.... NO WAY... my girls already hurt enough bouncing around while being confined in the sports bra... imagine the pain of a free bounce! Not an image I'd even want to imagine!

WTG Renewed! I'm excited for you to run tomorrow... good luck. Bonnie... I love my waist and back - where my waist curves into my back. It is firm, no rolls and feels just right. I'm at the tucking in stage for tops. I love how some tops look untucked, but also how some look tucked in. I even bought a belt. I haven't worn a belt in 20 years!

Ok, I know Canada is not perceived as hot... but summer in London is humid, sticky, and hot! Right now it is 88 F. OK, not as hot as Texas or Georgia, but still gross. I couldn't live without my AC. Especially since my DH has this obsessive fear of the house being broken into so he hates keeping the windows or curtains open. I guess it comes with growing up in the bad part of Toronto. His neighbours were crack heads and dealers. I have the ceiling fan on in the bedroom all night just to keep the air moving. But my favourite is to be cold so I can snuggle in under the blankets. But, I hate the cold of winter. I'd like Arizona heat... dry! Ok Leslie... my DH would also attack me if I ran around in my birthday suit... oh wait... he already does when I'm fully clothed :wink2:... ok TMI Good luck tonight renewed. Hope the house cools down for you.

Sugar... congrats for your sister-in-law! Yeah, 1 year off for the baby. 17 weeks is considered maturnity leave which is taken by the mom. Then 35 weeks is considered parental leave which can be taken by either parent, separately, together or shared. While off, your employer must hold your job for you (or ensure you have a comparable job to return to) and you can collect employment insurance (EI) for the full year. When I had my son, it was only 6 months, of which I took the 17 weeks and my DH took 12 weeks. Then when we adopted Sarah, we could take all 35 weeks of parental leave, which my DH took. Because EI is capped at a low amount (about $400 per week), we couldn't afford to have me off for an extended length of time, and my DH's employer topped up his earnings while he was off, but mine didn't... so he took the time. BTW, I've been researching 5k runs in my area and there are 2 in Sept and Oct which I'm considering. The first one is being held on Sept. 7th, which is a bit early. It would fall on Day 3 of Week 9, assuming I progressed every 2nd day from now without repeating any weeks. I think that is a bit unrealistic. The 2nd run is Oct. 5th, which I believe is very do-able. Both runs are for causes I hold near and dear. The Sept run is for the hospitals "Children's Epilepsy Unit", which we are clients of as Jesse is a severe epileptic. The Oct. run is the "Run for a Cure" national run in support of a cure for breast cancer... of which my mom died from and I've already had a biospy on (negative). So I think I will enter both and on the earlier run, I'll run/walk.

Thanks Leslie, you keep at it and when you're ready to move to week 2, go for it. I know all of us have this same amazement feeling after our run; the feeling that "I can't believe I did that... ohh I want to do that again" and "OMG, do I really feel this way... wow!" I always feel like that about 1 - 2 hours after my run, sort of euphoric and amazed. I always teased my DH that he only ran to get high. Now I kind of understand why!!