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At any salon, get a proteinizer Shampoo and leave in conditioner. Seems to work for me.

My doctor recommends that even if you don't need a fill, you should have a flouro check at least once a year.

Fills are very individual. Try not to compare yours to others. I was obsessed about getting a "normal first fill" then about getting a "normal second fill". Its all up to the person. I feel perfect right now and I have 2.6 cc's. But even if I don't get a fill, I will go back within a year to get a check done.

I was allowed to wear and keep the tampon. Fresh one right before surgery. Then changed it myself when I got up to walk around. I was coming off of my period when I had surgery not going into it.

Fred Durst (I would tear that man up!)

Brad Pitt (Angelina who? Jennifer who?)

Vin Diesel

Tommy Lee (just to see what all the hype is about)

Adam Sandler (just for fun)

I got a list... and I ain't picky.

Humphrey Bogart

Billy Dee Williams

Abraham Lincoln (to finally put a smile on his face)

Just about any rocker that has died

Ah hell, who am I kiddin' just bring them to me and I will tell you how it is....

I cried with fear all the way up to climbing on the gurney for the surgery. Totally normal I am told. And feel great now!

Jennifer,

Anytime anyone makes a solid decision to better their lives and become more healthy is okay in my book! Congrats on finding your path!

But we would love to have you stay here too! You would be an asset in giving us some perspective on other options!

GOOD LUCK!! Our thoughts are with you!

Did someone say Milk Duds? Where? Gimme some!

LMAO at Lisa!!!!!!! Pollack is spelled Polak dear. Too funny, did you do that on purpose? If you didn't, it will make me laugh harder!! Gosh I love ya Lisa!

Dictionary Usage:

It is curious that a word Polack is pejorative in English language even though it is the Polish word for a Pole. The term was popularized by a TV show "All in the Family." Archie Bunker (1971-1983) referred often to his son-in-law Mike Stivic as "Polack pinko meathead." The show had a huge success, and it popularized the term through the usage of Polish jokes. An example joke comes from Mad magazine’s 1973 parody of Johnny Carson’s "Amazing Carnak" mentalist routine:

CARNAK: The answer is "Dope Ring!"

ANNOUNCER: And what is the question?

CARNAK: Describe six Polacks sitting in a circle.

Long before Americans started using the term in an insulting way, it was already well-established in Europe. Karl Marx was one of the people that used it regularly. He once wanted to sue the London newspaper, The Daily Telegraph, which he said was owned by "polack Jews" (letter to Freidrich Engels, 02/09/1860). H. E. F. Donohue used it in "Gentlemen’s Game" ("He gets onto cursing all of them …the wops and the polacks and the niggers").

When you feel you can. Start small. It varies for everyone. I was a 6-7th weeker.

I stayed overnight one night.

For me.... Lane Bryant sizes tend to be a bit wider to make room for more "womanly" bodies rather than a 14 or a 16 made for a girls body. Makes room for hip action for me. So I think Lane Bryant is more "true" whereas non catering to plus size stores run a bit small for the size.

Lane Bryant Turquoise bikini style panties with matching bra. I ALWAYS match. If I don't, its a baaaaaaaad day for Jenna and people should stay away. I swear people should just ask if I am matching today to find out if they should even talk to me!

Okay, first of all the use of the words "chubby chasers" was our words (jane and me) not John. So I am sorry if this offended anyone but I don't particularly find it offensive as a big girl. But I do apologize if it offended anyone.

On to John, he was NOT having any type of intimacy with his wife during the affair. He IS guilt ridden and DOES feel bad. He is doing everything in his power to try and make this better. He doesnt not love her anymore, he just is not happy on an intimate level. He does want to remain best friends with her but does not want the intimacy. Realizing he can not have the marriage and cheat, he was ending the relationship. In his eyes, it was better to let her move on with another man rather than keep her in a relationship where she wasn't happy intimately either.

Jane is doing okay. She is confused though as she thought divorces were supposed to be nasty. And he is being VERY accomodating on her every whim. He doesn't have to be, but she says she really thinks he is wanting to be that way. She believes him. I believe him. I am NOT saying it is justified and neither is she. She agrees that the marriage is over, but is glad it is not a realization 10 or 15 years from now. She does think she can recoup from this. She does think she is young enough (she is 48) to enjoy another relationship. The kids are out of the house, she is looking great (and I mean great!) and she has a fantastic sense of humor and is fun to be around. She is VERY sad that the marriage has ended as she loves John. But..... she is also saying she is grateful that he came to this realization now. Granted, he cheated on her before he told her. That was wrong. VERY wrong. But.... he did have the intentions of telling her the end of the marriage was here and cared enough about her to tell her with a support group for HER, not him. The cheating part sucked, but she is more devastated that he would have been happier had she not lost the weight. She is more upset she didn't KNOW this, so that she probably would have felt more comfy in her own skin. She merely thought that John never complained about it, but would prefer thin.

John is NOT saying he does not love Jane. He is NOT being unemotional about this. But he does not want to waste her or his time in a situation where he feels he will never be sexually satisfied on a intimate level. And he does not want to sneak around having affairs. He says he has never had an affair on her. She believes him. I believe him. The affair that did happen was circumstance easy and was weak on his part which he fully admits and is extremely apologetic. The reason why the "other woman" had come to the house was because John had told her that he did not want to continue the sexual relationship they built over the past 2 weeks behind Jane's back. He said he needed to have a few months of not seeing "other woman" in order to deal with the current situation. The "other woman" took this as her cue to tell Jane to force the few months into immediate. NOT the way it happened. John has nothing to do with the "other woman" now.

He admits he was not going to tell her about the cheating. But because he did not want to make things worse for Jane because of his own shitty choice. He totally admits it.

He is getting the divorce, he doesn't HAVE to be cordial, doen't HAVE to give her everything. But he is.

I guess you have to know John. He is VERY sensitive and I know this is tearing him up too. He does love Jane very much. I can see where he is trying to save Jane more than himself because generally that is the kind of guy he is.

This whole thing has me very confused though. On one hand I hate him for cheating and being an asshole.... on the other hand, I respect him taking the responsibility and the blame. I hate him for hurting my friend. I miss him because he was my friend once too. My loyalties lie with Jane, no doubt about it. But I do know that Jane was the "friend maker" of the relationship. His parents are more her parents. He has no siblings. So part of me feels sorry for him that he has no one to talk to.

The saga continues. But I wanted to let you all know that Jane is a very strong woman and is also empowered by this. (even now). She is sad, heartbroken, but does know she will survive this.

I told her I put this on here with fake names. Ya wanna know what she said to me?? "I wish I would have read the same story before I had the bypass. Maybe then I could have been armed with knowledge of how he felt/thought/desired rather than just supporting me as a person and what I wanted. Maybe it wouldn't have changed my mind, maybe it would have, but at least it wouldnt have been a brick upside my head!"

(((((SIGH)))))

As for me... I am a YES. I would do anything possible to keep this weight off. I would do anything possible to not be that big again. I would never want to be as depressed and misreble as I was. So yes, I would do it. No bones about it, if it was my only chance.

Jamie, CONGRATS!!!! keep on going girlie!

Okay... so I have this story to tell.....

I get a call tonight from a friend (we will call her "Jane") in absolute TEARS and huffing and puffing and groaning. After I get Jane somewhat calmed, she tells me she is divorcing her husband (we will call him "John") because he had an affair.

I WAS FLOORED!! They had a MAGNIFICENT relationship and he was very loving and attentive to her. John seemed to truly love Jane without reservations.

Here is what happened:

At first John was not supportive of Jane having gastric bypass (she had it before she and I knew about the band option). Anyways, Jane had gastric bypass about 2 years ago. When Jane had the surgery she was 387 and 5'7" tall. She was a bit big and I was one of her only friends that have stayed friends with her through the entire thing. I knew how badly Jane wanted this for herself. We talked about all kinds of things and she felt that this could make her marriage stronger by being healthy, living longer, and a better sex life. Anyways.... John became a somewhat supporter but did not really ever get into it. He didn't say no, but he didn't really oppose it in front of her.

Jane had the surgery and is today about 195 lbs. She looks AWESOME!!!

Jane found her husband sleeping with another woman. She MET the woman!! (longer story, but she actually came to her house to ask Jane to leave John) As it turns out, John is no longer sexually and physically attracted to Jane. She is no longer large enough he says!!! He said he wanted to tell her that he was a "chubby chaser" but was embarrassed. He said he was no longer happy in the marriage intimately and wanted to seperate. He said that he preferred her sexually as a large woman and now that she is forced to be smaller, he is no longer attracted to her.

She asked about their current sex life. He said that he did have feeling for her and wanted her to be happy, but that he would "imagine" her as she used to be.... big.

When he had been confronted about the affair, he went into the office and got a letter he had written to her trying to explain his feelings. He said he was planning on telling her this weekend. (labor day weekend, when they were at his parents house for a mini vacation for 4 days!!!) Not the best timing in my book, but he is a man remember. His mother and her get along very well as her mother died 5 years ago from heart disease. So he thought it would be the best place to tell her so she had someone "like a mother" to support her. He had already bought a return ticket, returning 2 days before her.

She was puzzled because he used to hoot and holler with his friends during football games at the cheerleaders and the sexy commercials. So she asks him... he says, "well that is what they expected from me, so I gave it to them. I didn't want them to think I was wierd but I really find it disgusting to be with a 'thinnie'." He told Jane that he did not want to lose their friendship. He told her that he did still love her and wanted to remain friends. He said (and has been) giving her free reign on anything she wants in the divorce so far. They have a 19 year old daughter and had been married for 23 years. He says she is his best friend and does not want that to change but does not want to be romantically involved with her. It has been 2 weeks now. He is not dating the girl he cheated with but is dating another girl.... a BIG girl. He is remaining true to his word in wanting to be friends. He is not fighting about anything.

Now, some background on John.... He is successful, intelligent, somewhat good looking for an older guy (once you really get to know him), a great personality to talk to, 5'9" tall and about 190 lbs with a medium build. Not skinny, not big, just a guy.

Jane is a mess but coping. She says that John has NEVER lied to her before. I believe that because he didn't strike me as the "sneaky" type. But, she had NO clue about the affair. It wasn't the ONLY reason, but one of the major reasons Jane did the bypass was to be more attractive for her husband. She called me because he had brought over the divorce papers (and gave her just about everything). She says he has been very sweet and seemed concerned about her, but is distant for anything intimate. (and she admits to trying)

This is obviously the shortened version.... the whole saga actually went on for hours on the phone.

SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS:

Do you believe John??? Or is he just an asshole?

Irony certainly is a bitch huh???

LOL, are we just going to converge on Lisa's house without telling her? Hmmmmmm, a surprise party for Lisa at her own house!!! That would be fun! Shhhhhhh, no one tell her we are planning........

That one is a stumper.... hmmmmmmmmm, we give up??

DeLarla whipped off her clothes to reveal her OWN belly dancing costume. She....

I went to a bar and watched the Steelers game, then took the dog to the dog park. Other than that, just some house cleaning.

Sorry, not really impressive! (but the Steelers won!! )

Personally, I preferred pleasing him orally until I was 100%. Rather me than someone else huh?!?!?! Just kidding, my man wouldn't go elsewhere even if I didn't do it.

I just took the "healing" time VERY seriously. I was very careful. So I think it was 6 weeks until we did. And by then, it was alllllllllllllll good.

Yep, LMAO.... It is an EVIL scarf. I swear the thing has a mind of its own!! But to its defense it was HELLA windy there! See that evil hair?

1. Use the SP vibrating Body Wash Ball and pass the ball using the neck, no hands. (or for the more rowdy of crowds... use Mr. Dependable for passing.

2.

"Find it, hand it to me, find a ...",Start simple, like the first one that gives you a DL, First one that gives you a kleenex, then do the first one that hands you a bra (YOU WILL BE AMAZED AT HOW FAST THEY RIP THEM OFF). Do it randomly throughout the night when you need an energy boost. We do this on a cruise and it is a BLAST. Real small prizes such as a condom or pencil eraser.

3.

Use your SP Note Pads. Give a love token card to the winner that has the best drawing.

Not that I want to volunteer Lisa for anything but I have a question..... why can't it be a Bi-Annual Bash? (meaning 2 times a year) Once in the summer and once in the winter months? I know I know, I just wanna go backkkkkkkkkkk!

I vote for a Winter Bash. Somewhere, anywhere!