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onajourney, i agree with you wholeheartedly. my nut (s) are still pushing fat free, artificially sweetened food. but i understand why. i think my center is really falling short on actual education and follow up (and it's still better than most), and they use these crappy suggestions for food as a way of trying to help people with their food addictions. but it's like suggesting that alcoholics drink alcohol free beer as a way to treat alcoholism. it's a poor suggestion to begin with and does absolutely nothing to address the actual problem or teach people new ways to behave. but i dont think it's bad advice to caution against bananas in a post op shake though. it's good to be a minimalist right after surgery.

i think one of the simple answers to this that in the US, "carbs" means "highly processed food product, full of GMO wheat, corn, HFCS and trans fatty acids." which are things no one should eat, esp obese people or people struggling with food issues. carbs does not mean Beans, sweet potatoes, quinoa, lentils, etc. it's a misconception that is very annoying. the whole GI thing can be helpful, but it's hard to figure sometimes, since food is rarely eaten in isolation. i am trying to help my SO with this, since he has recently learned he is insulin resistant, despite eating an entirely different diet for the last 6 months. also, americans love to demonize food. i think it goes back to our puritan roots. first it was fat, then carbs, now sugar. people who eat these things are weak and lacking in character (according to popular thought) and if you avoid them, your body is pure and strong. there is this whole moral model regarding food (and being fat) that is very dysfunctional. (and it certainly affects doctors and dietitians too)

i had to break up with the food network and cooking channel post op. it was a painful breakup. but a clean break. sometimes i am tempted to date again, but thankfully, the magic is gone.

you should go see you doctor/nut and have a frank discussion with him/her.

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i hope you have seen a doctor and are getting some answers.

time to look for other things to add into your life that will make you happy. for many of us, food is our life... hobby, friend, preoccupation. food isnt that important anymore. time to move on and expand your life to include new things you can love and will bring you pleasure.

i increased my magnesium today, and i did a dance class this afternoon... i am feeling much better. **mumbles about fibromyalgia, but refuses to discuss it**

what an interesting take! i would find it hard separate these things... i had a fairly healthy lifestyle before surgery... except for the huge portion sizes and all my emotional eating. you can get fat on healthy food too! i did exercise, but wasnt able to do what i wanted with my fat body. so for me i would say my healthy lifestyle will be managing my emotional eating (in many ways) and my restriction will take care of my portion sizes... so, both.

its fairly rare to find therapists who do what they do so they can milk clients for money. the vast majority of therapists, skilled or not, genuinely care about helping people. i wonder what you might be afraid is going to happen if you have to see someone.

i agree. there is a reason some people find carbs so effective for emotional eating (other people prefer Peanut Butter or cheese)..... learning to get past emotional eating can go a long way in eliminating cravings. i know exactly why my H finds sugar so reinforcing, but that's his gig not mine. i have my own emotional eating traps to figure my way out of. bottom line... i would not fret about giving up a banana for my recovery period. this surgery is too important to start finding reasons to not be compliant with the nut's plan already. (though i never complied with my center's plan of artificial sweeteners and fat free food products, i just dont eat them) plan on less for the immediate post op time frame and then slowly add in things to see if you can tolerate. it's way easier to add stuff than take it out after you feel like hell or are vomiting.

yeah, i'd be appealing THAT one to the insurance company ASAP.

for some people. it's not like that for everyone. but you can go overboard with fruit. it is sugar and can be digested rapidly when not eaten with anything else. my H has a real sugar problem. due to food allergies he's significantly changed his diet over the past year. he doesn't drink soda or eat candy bars anymore. but will come home and eat 2 bananas in a row. he doesn't see how he craves sugar when he is tired and hungry. he figures, it's fruit, it's fine. but the way he eats it, it's not.

you never know what you might or might not be able to tolerate after surgery. banana made me feel very icky. (too much sugar) i can still only tolerate a few bites of banana. berries i can tolerate much better. my Protein drinks after surgery were Protein powder, milk and ice cubes. nothing else. when the protein powder was making me gag, i switched to milk and greek yogurt blended together. plenty of protein and i was able to tolerate.

take advantage of it. it might be just what you need after surgery when you wont have the option of using food to cope anymore. most people are a little surprised at just how much they have relied on food to deal after the surgery.

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you need professional help, not advice on a weight loss forum!

you should check with your nut, i wasnt supposed to for 3 months.

to my H, a snack ALWAYS consists of carbs! or alcohol. or both.

no, my surgeon gave it to me post op when my stomach wasnt squeezing. my PCP just continued the script , and recently i changed docs and my new PCP never said a word. my mom says her GI guy told her all about the possible side effects. she too has gone off it, and hasnt felt any difference, which made her feel it wasnt the right drug for her anyway.

i dont think you are getting in all your protein. if you are getting in 60 grams of protein, i am guessing you wont be hungry. you should be aiming for 64 ounces of water too. i would avoid potatoes until you are able to get in all your protein. when you can get in your water and protein, you will feel full.

compassion for others begins with compassion for ourselves. many of us dont have any experience treating ourselves with compassion and loving kindness. hence our difficulty in taking care of our health, eating right exercising, making good decisions. beginning with compassion for ourselves is a great place to start with this surgery. you can't hate yourself into being healthy.

pdx, check this interesting article i found. dr mercola can be a nutloaf, but i still found this interesting. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/sore-muscles_b_3398611.html

yeah, there is a diff between building muscle soreness and DOMS. and i did do yoga and walk/hike before surgery... not anywhere near what i attempt to do now, but i wasnt totally sedentary.

because it makes your blood sugar go up. if your blood sugar is low, you feel hungry. protein doesnt make your blood glucose level go up. thats why its good to eat a protein and carb at the same time. make sure you are getting enough fiber and fat too. many people dont feel satisfied on just protein. (humans evolved to crave a varied diet)