NurseGrace

I stayed overnight - till noon the next day. I was up walking about 5 or 6 hours after surgery.

Sorry, no one sits around the treatment rooms of the wards discussing the theory. nursing is an evidenced based practice, we are far more focused on behavioral issues, therapeutic milieus and patient/caregiver relationships. I have no idea what you do, and I only care to defend myself so much, and I am quickly becoming fatigued with this conversation. You are right, I did not pick up on your vague references because I flat out misinterpreted what you were even trying to say and that is your basis for more or less calling me an idiot. But the truely laughable thing in this whole conversation is that you feel that because you had to point out your bad joke that I know nothing of Freudian theory but the very fact that you think that is so agregious is what really makes you look silly. Anyone in the know realizes that although he set the stage for modern psychology, other thinkers have filled in the rest. It's the difference between psychodynamic vs psychoanalytic and their varying degrees of usefulness. Freud will always be around, if not only in the gaps but your assertions that because I didn't get your attempt at humor means I am somehow a know nothing or uneducated is laughable. /ranty rant.

Difference being that everyone has sex, not every one gets so fat they need to cut out the large majority of their stomach.

Oh, I was reading that not as the id, but as ID like identification. I'll let that slide as that is underhanded and sort of antiquated. No one uses that term like that anymore. I don't make claims to DX anyone, I think we got our wires crossed, because what I was trying to say is that was ridiculous (referring to the woman calling people delusional) What I was saying is that when I am finished with grad school I will be able too, there are no limitations on NPs in the mental health field so its not really accurate to say that it's left to psychologists and psychiatrists.

I wouldnt worry about it too much. Reasonable people understand that its personal when they find out that you have had surgery and have been less than forthright with HOW you lost the weight. The only time I absolutely will tell every time is if I am talking to a severely obese person, I feel like those are the people that need to understand that there are things they can do to help themselves. I'll tell a 300 pounder every day of the week. Other people - it just depends.

Yep, I think I am kind of like the girl you describe. Over time I will let more and more people in on what I have done more than likely, because the questions WILL come, and especially people who are heavy because it could do them could to understand that there are options but it will not be drug out of my before I am ready to talk about it. Fact is, there is still a lot I am unsure about, and I don't want other people's opinions about it clouding my thinking right now, because I feel that while I am doing really well, I also feel that I am in a state where I am vulnerable emotionally, because I take this surgery really seriously and I just cannot risk the negativity in my personal life at the moment.

I'm sorry, I don't quite know what you mean by that. I'm not trying to be facetious either, I just don't follow you. I don't know what you mean by ID has run rampant. Almost ALL of my nursing education has been in the field of psych. It's my specialty and its what I'm going to grad school for, so again, I'm not sure what you mean by that. I thought I was clear about what my specialty is, not that anyone cares because this is the internet and I will be the first to tell anyone that they shouldn't take medical advice from internet forums, but if you are questioning where my training is, that would be it. I do inpatient psychiatric treatment on a locked ward. My patients range from personality disorders, borderlines, to patients who's issues have more to do with drug abuse than actual mental illness. That's my background. I'm in transition right now because of grad school and will more than likely have diagnosing privileges and prescriptive privileges within the next 18 - 24 months. I don't expect anyone to care in the slightest what I do, its not very interesting, but I only explain myself to say that, yes, I do have formal education in this field, its my life.

I see. *looks around knowingly* tehehehe.

Thank you for starting this group. My highest weight was 302 which I realize is not very far into the 300s but it is such a different beast (or at least it feels like it is) from someone who only weighs 240 pounds or something like that. I am out of the 300s now but I feel that I would relate to people here better.

If you dedicated your life to something you would care, trust me. But even this rings of some strange interpersonal weirdness. You're so good that you are unaffected by what other people think, or that's what you would have me and everyone else believe. I actually do not seek you out, but we seem to have similar forum interests because we do bump into each other a lot here on this site. That's fine. I'm sure in life you are a perfectly reasonable nice woman, but the way you put things here in this "I don't give a f**k about what anyone thinks" attitude is just not reality for anyone. It's a big game people talk, but it's only true for people with personality disorders and the disturbed, of which I would venture to say you have NEITHER.

I hear you. I love butter, but places can really overdo it. I always ask for it to be on the side if I know its something like that because for SOME dishes the butter is integral to the food but you need FAR less than what they plop on there, and if its hot and melting, there isn't a lot you can do about it.

being a psych nurse, I know "delusional" well and what I can say to you is that there is not enough information here to say if someone is having delusions or not. I don't know if you really don't know what that means, if you like to armchair diagnose over the internet because it makes you feel better about yourself, or what this is but not only is it a pet peeve to any ACTUAL professionals when people do that type of thing, its silly. Maybe I'm touchy about it because I'm actually going to school for my NP so I have diagnosing rights or maybe you just rub me the wrong way every time I see a post from you because it almost always rings of superiority... but that type of thing is just silly to say the least. The women could be having any number of issues. Do people understand that dumping syndrome is not exclusive to gastric bypass surgery? ANY type of gastrointestinal operation, and I am not just talking about weight loss surgery. In fact, not a single one of those symptoms listed exclusive to any type of weight loss surgery, and they are all extremely common with LOTS of different procedures, sicknesses, and even psychological issues. These are common, common, COMMON. That being said, is it likely that maybe she had a WLS procedure? Sure, it is not unreasonable to think that, but if you think for one second its any of your business and this woman should just fess up and tell you, I question how you came to decide you were entitled to this information. She could be feeling shame about failed dieting attempts, she could be experiencing complications that she doesn't want to talk about, she could be upset about her choice, or she may just be a private person. And all of that is assuming that she DID in fact have weight loss surgery. I just want to say this one last thing before I unsubscribe from this thread, because its crawling with busybody type women (which is supremely unappealing). The more educated you get, the more you realize how much you do not understand about things. My years in the medical field (even though I am young, I've been in medicine since I was 18) have taught me that you really cannot assume anything. You just can't. You.don't.know. ANYTHING. It's laughable to watch all these people here with so little information grasp at straws to make every situation applicable to themselves. Maybe its comforting for people to feel like they are not the only ones who made the choice to do this, but that is what this community is for. You do not need to reach out to UNWILLING participants in your own lives and try to drag something out of them they don't want to share or might not even be true. Only you look stupid in the end for those types of clear boundary issues. Let them be, love them, they probably need it. Maybe if you were not digging for dirt they might share what is really going on with them.

You might hate me, I'm a barefoot enthusiast

Hey I think I am going to try the couch to 5k, I guess I never thought to do that because it seemed to me like the people who did those were already fit so I assumed it was above my fitness level. As for the running thing, its not that I feel like I HAVE to run to lose weight, but there is no denying its a calorie burner, and my cardiovascular endurance is piss poor. I am also attracted to running because I am a bit of a minimalist - in all aspects of my life (except food) so I don't like having a full house, I don't like lots of STUFF, I like clean open spaces... so I am attracted to activities that don't require me to maintain lots of equipment and gear. The other reason is because of CrossFit. I got a taste of crossfit prior to surgery and it got me. I freaking love it, but even scaled down, it was too much for me, I was just flat out TOO OUT OF SHAPE. CrossFit might even be one of the biggest reasons I had this surgery. I want to get into a more physically fit state so I can do crossfit without really injuring myself, which for me wasn't really possible at 300 pounds.

Enell is the only one I can recommend. Not sexy but they hold you like nothing you have experienced before

meh, almost any baked fish would be fine right? I suppose it depends how often you eat out. I am early post op so I am very careful right now but as I get farther and father out it I would hope that if I eat out very rarely when I go to a restaurant that I won't be so worried about what I order, because its a rare thing, but thats just me.

Could be a structure.

You dont need expensive celebrate baratric Vitamins because there is nothing wrong with our absorption unless ypu went into this with some kind of condition you havent shared. That being said, flintstone vitamins are for children, and thus, not the best. All ypu need is an adult chewable. And there is really no reason to take more than one dose, unless, like I said.. if you have something going on with you.

So I'm on day 20 and experiencing some issues. First, I haven't really lost weight in 9 or 10 days regardless of the fact that I am eating about 600-800 calories a day and getting plenty of activity. Also, constipation has been more of an issue than I thought it would be. I've taken a few doses of Milk of Mag and that does the trick but I don't want to be laxative dependent How soon are Fiber supplements advisable? Anyone know of any that wont make you bloated and gassy? Also, I came down with a urinary tract infection that I am sort of self medicating but I am wondering if I am somehow not getting enough fluids? I am drinking more than I did prior to surgery so it could just be a coincidence, I don't know. Overall not feeling well. Up until about two days ago I was doing fantastic, but then I hit a wall and I am tired, a little bit sick, and sort of cranky about not seeing any movement on the scale. So I guess I am asking annoying question about stalls but I kind of want to know how often I should expect them? I am not exactly surprised at this one because I did lose ALMOST 30 pounds in a month or so I expected this was coming. I have been told that they can happen every 30 pounds? Is that what most people experience or does it just sort of vary? I know the vets of this site probably get sick of questions about stalls and I can assure you that I used the search function before asking this but I just don't find our search function to be very good, I can never really find what I am looking for with it, unfortunately so please forgive me. EDIT: I just wanted to add, I was thinking of fasting today before my weigh in tomorrow (that is a sampling of the crazy stuff I used to do) but decided against that. I am going to keep steady with my dietary intake as my doctor has told me regardless of the fact that I have not seen any weight loss but it's definitely getting in my head a little bit. I can't believe I was thinking about fasting again.

I don't make it up there often but I will remember that.

I'm in the Johnson County area - Olathe specifically

whips and chains....

Nope. Shes fine.