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Yes, the model is newer. There seems to be no info about it though!!! But, it is a new low pressure band with a different design. It is softer on the body. When it is filled, the person injecting will notice that the low pressure makes it different to fill. ie the fill does not spurt out when the port is injected. I believe its called AP band, and its by Inamed.

Thanks NewSho, I agree with everything you said. I put on so much inbetween not having restriction to now that hardly any of my wardrobe fits me anymore. I have jeans hanging up that just exist to mock me. Most of my boots wont even zip up!! I had such a funky wardrobe too from last year at a normal weight. Yes, for me, even a band that works at half capacity is still doing a massive job. My interest in this topic is definately not to gloat about how my doc is xyz etc. I really want to get the info out there that my doc who knows alot, was ademant that he would be rebanding me, scar tissue aside. I was terrified that he would get in there & find things too awful to reband. He seemed almost tickled with the thought that this would ever happen, and he really laughed. But, being the kind & respectful guy that he is, he assured me that this has only happened once out of all the times, and this person was rebanded latter. So it makes me wonder what is going on in the world where one side rarely rebands, and the other almost always does. My other concerns are that this band is not as strong & perfect as I once believed. I have come to believe that being too tight is the same as saying...`I really want to have a slip`. For me this means I have to put in more work than I would otherwise choose to. Also, I now believe that overeatting & pbing are also strong indications that you are ruining your chances of keeping the band. So I try to avoid this even though its a struggle. I have had the experience of mucking up once, & it takes alot out of you to try to get back on track. Realistically some of us will still have to fight the deamons full on, just to keep themselves from ruining the band.....which is hard because that is why we have the band!! Also, I have become more concerned about all the things that can go wrong with our fragile systems when the band is too tight, or slipped or eroded or placed wrong. We have to be on our guard to watch out for signs that things are not right. Fortunately some things are reversable but for some there will still be a huge cost.

I would be looking into some other opinions from band doctors who specialise in the band. I just want to mention that my doc was terribly surprised when I told him of all the slips that end up with the band being removed. He was surprised about the removal bit, because he has only ever replaced the band, not removed it (but for one time according to him). He is Professor Obrien who works with Inamed & helps design the new bands & is known worlwide for his work with the band. It just surprises me that some doctors make you wait 6 months to heal, some refuse altogether & others just replace with no issues!!!! Well, my band that was replaced at the same time as the old one being removed seems fine. I have a new type of band that is meant to be softer on the system. It still makes you pb, and it doesnt actually feel any different in that respect, but I can often eat fruit & salad which I couldnt before. I cant understand how you didnt have blood supply to your stomach, can you get clarification about that??? My thoughts are that there are many reasons why bands `fail`. Just because your first one did, doesnt mean it will happen again (for the same reason). Alot would depend on where the band is positioned, the type of band & your eatting habits with the band, and of couse fill levels. Good luck, I think my doc. would consider banding you unless you didnt have a stomach!!!LOL. He just doesnt see scaring etc as an obstical to banding.

Inamed. It has been trialed at my docs surgery since January & released in the last month or so. When I got my band replaced the port was not changed. I had an Inamed band before & this one is too!!! It is their latest model & includes some changes to the design which make it more tollerable to the body. Best luck, Sharon

Hi fellow AP bandsters. Im curious to read or hear something about this new band. Wouldnt you think it would be announced somewhere!!!! I can feel things get sort of stuck then go slowly & gently down. eg watermellon, chicken (not chewed enough), japanese rolls(the seaweed ones). I dont really feel full as such and have to stop myself from grazing, but Im not going crazy either (as much)!! I might get a touch more fil but dont want to not be able to eat fruit & vegs like last time, or go into abnormal eatting mode. I am willing to accept that I may never get perfect restriction where it is effortless. Im happy to have the band even if its not perfect. I would love to meet for a coffee one day.

I cant believe you lost sooo much. I would love to hear about your story!!! Maybe start a new thread. With my old band I definately contributed to the `slip` because I always pushed the limits with my eatting. I still went from 105 kilos to 65, nothing to sneeze at, but I didnt put effort into following the rules. For some reason the weight just came off even with me eatting junk & drinking with meals etc. My problems really started when I kept getting more fill to speed the weight loss or to compinsate for my lack of effort. ie instead of revising what I was doing incorrectly, I just wanted more fil. So being too tight eventually caused too much pressure from the pbing & it caused the band to fail. I plan to remember & learn from this 2nd time round. However, this new band has different signals than the old one. I can feel things getting stuck & then make their way down! That never happened with the old band. I can eat everything from chicken to california rolls. I dont know if its because the new band tollerates more food types or because Im not tight enough. It is interesting though to have a second chance, I hope I can make it work......because you know, of course I had to tell everyone in the world about being banded, & I am getting lots of comments!

Julie my stomach came up thru the band too!!! My lowest weight was 64kg & now I am 75!!!! Im really suffering because nothing fits. I live near The Avenue in Prahran. Im beginning to believe that the band seems to last 2 to 4 years before it gets teething problems???? I hope Im wrong. Every board I read seems to have problems lately. Three years ago all I heard was praise & 100% certainty that this was the answer. Now it seems you either cant get restriction, or it slips or you cant eat healthy food, or your throat spasms etc. It was much more fun when I had my rose coloured glasses on.....and my hipster jeans that fit!!!!

Hi Julie, looks like we are neighbours. Did your 1st band pass its use by date too? ie slip or the stomach moved??? Unfortunately, I lost alot of confidence (& face) since my ordeal because I put on 10 kilos sooo quickly inbetween no fills!!!! I hope Ive got it in me to do this again! I have a different attitude this time, with the knowledge that the band can not do it all for me. It will be interesting because I went thru a good year or 2 of maladaptive eatting & now I can eat real food again. I forgot how it felt to eat fruit & veg! You have done well, soo much lost!!! Dont you just love the Prof???

Hi, there are 2 sizes APS (small) and APL (large). Maybe its not Inamed, sorry if I assumed wrong. Prof Obrien told me its just out of trials & he was helping them with trialing it on his patients. I assumed he was associated with Inamed, but I could be wrong!! In any case it does exist & it is called the AP model band. It has a 360 degree inner chamber where the Fluid goes, as opposed to the Inamed one which doesnt join all around. Also the hinge that locks it doesnt touch the stomach as does the other ones.

Hi guys, I just wanted to let you know that I have a very new designed band from Inmed that is just out of trials. It is an AP band & is low pressure which means less chance of a blockage when something gets stuck. It is softer on the body. It is so new that I dont know anything about it really except that it is accepted as being an improvement over the other bands. I havent even got it to proper restriction yet as I had it put in about 6 weeks ago. My old band slipped & I ate very abnormally for about 2 years. I have an extra 10 kilos of weight that I put on inbetween bands & no restriction. At the moment I feel very overweight with no clothes that fit as I gave away all my large clothes. Even my boots dont fit!!! Anyway, I just wanted to let you know about this new band that may be an answer for some who couldnt tollerate the old band.

I went for years. It is the same 12 steps as for alchohol. It is not weight loss based so technically, you could be morb. obese and succsessful with food. I do believe it is heartfelt, and the people involved really believe in it....but lets just say, if it worked I wouldnt have had to get the band. Parts of it are helpful, like get out of yourself, and accept the things you cannot change etc, but it is not `the` magic answer to obesity or eatting disorders.

Hi Penny, before you do anything, I would love you to talk (email?) with my doc, Professor Obrien in Australia. He was truely surprised when I told him of all the band removals that are going on O.S. (that I read about here). Just recently I also had a slip, and before the operation I asked what the chances were of not being able to replace my band. He sort of laughed & said, only once (out of 100`s) could he not progress with replacing a band due to complications. He did not view the scarring as an obstical to him being able to replace it. Also, there is a brand new band called the AV. It is much kinder on the stomach apparantly. I just got this one myself a week ago, havent road tested it yet! You have been so helpful to others, you deserve the best solution possible. Proffessor Obrien also does much research on obesity etc, and no doubt would be very interested in your delemer. It wouldnt cost to try. Good luck, Sharon

Thank you, I will definately update you on my progress!